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"The Wheel Truth" 84-87 wheel/flange info

I had to buy a new (used) final driven flange and final driven gear assy. I also bought a wheel to go with the flange because I bought a very nice '84 flange and my bike is a '86.
I read a lot of posts about what fit what, some were contradictory to other posts so I thought I would research myself.
Some said '84-85 pin diameter was different from '86-87, wrong - no difference in pin diameter or in pin circle diameter. the only difference is the pins in the '84-85 are about .050 longer than the '86 -87, not enough to matter.
I found some wheels online shown as say '85 were really '86-87, I don't think they are purposely misrepresenting the parts, I think someone may have changed a wheel/flange at one time and the guy parting it doesn't know the diffrence in years. Because of this I thought I would share some info that I hope will help keep people from getting wrong parts as they are needed and used is all there is.
You want to keep flange and wheel matched by year for them to work, ie: 84-5 flange with 84-5 wheel.

First off, any final driven gear assy from '84 to 87 will work on any '84 to 87 bike.
The '84 - 85 flange has a longer center bore and is smaller I/D than the '86 - 87.
The wheel for '84 - 85 has the hub turned where the flange slides over, the '86 - 87 does not have the hub turned.

(Just a side note....the driven flange from the '88 - 89 1500 will work on the '86 - 87 wheel)

Below are pictures that I think will help understand what to look for when buying replacement parts.
driven flage for '84-5, note long center


driven flange for '86-7, note short center - ('88 -89 flange is same)


wheel for '84-5, note turned hub


wheel for '86-7, note hub not turned


I hope this helps some of you some day, I know I had a hard time finding any definitive info.
I'm glad I found nice parts, it payed off nicely as you can see below



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Good info, ask the moderator to merge your threads and place it in a sticky forum so it's not so hard to find.


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Great information and worth a Sticky for future reference.
Once a few have posted here, just might move to the FAQs where it can be found easier....

I have indexed it regardless.


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thank you AZgl1500, it's easy to get the wrong thing from ebay sellers who don't know what they have (not blaming them). I hope this helps. I wanted to delete the second post (the one with the small thumbnails) but I couldn't figure out how. Sorry to have posted twice

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thank you AZgl1500, it's easy to get the wrong thing from ebay sellers who don't know what they have (not blaming them). I hope this helps. I wanted to delete the second post (the one with the small thumbnails) but I couldn't figure out how. Sorry to have posted twice
I took care of that and did a soft delete leaving the pictures attached.... just in case you might want to bring it back.


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Going through a driven flange issue right now. This thread is excellent.
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I bought a 1984 Honda Gold wing and I have a rear flange that has major wear due to the last guy who owned it did not grease the flange. I read that it is possible to replace it with a 1998 Honda Goldwing flange. I looked at both of them and they look very similar. I want to replace it with new to excellent shape part. So that is why I am going this route. Can anyone tell me if it is possible and if so is there any modifications needed?
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I bought a 1984 Honda Gold wing and I have a rear flange that has major wear due to the last guy who owned it did not grease the flange. I read that it is possible to replace it with a 1998 Honda Goldwing flange. I looked at both of them and they look very similar. I want to replace it with new to excellent shape part. So that is why I am going this route. Can anyone tell me if it is possible and if so is there any modifications needed?
read the post at begining with pictures carefully, The 86-87 can use the 88-89 flange but that is it. after that they went to 5 pin instead of 6.
Look at your wheel and compare it to the pictures, it is possible your wheel may have been changed to the 86-87 sometime in it's life. The 84-85 wheel has a turned hub (see picture) the 86-87 does not.

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I bought a 1984 Honda Gold wing and I have a rear flange that has major wear due to the last guy who owned it did not grease the flange. I read that it is possible to replace it with a 1998 Honda Goldwing flange. I looked at both of them and they look very similar. I want to replace it with new to excellent shape part. So that is why I am going this route. Can anyone tell me if it is possible and if so is there any modifications needed?
urnabind2 Yes it has been done here is a link sort of.

Final drive swap GL1500 into GL1200?




Thank you for the information I am trying to figure out what I'm going to do about mine. I've got time before I wear it out just don't know how long. I have another that is almost gone so it is no help.


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urnabind2 Yes it has been done here is a link sort of.

Final drive swap GL1500 into GL1200?




Thank you for the information I am trying to figure out what I'm going to do about mine. I've got time before I wear it out just don't know how long. I have another that is almost gone so it is no help.
this works only if you want to replace the whole final drive with new. Thats all good you just need final drive, drive flange and wheel. I am sorry if I didn't understand what you wanted, i read it as you just wanted the drive flange.

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