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The single carb setup I installed is working fine with one exception: As this uses a Solex Pict34-3 VW carb I have to go to the VW sites to get info. My bike suddenly refused to idle at all. I finally traced the problem to a sticking cutoff solenoid. I cut the end of the plunger off in order to get it to run. This was used to keep a hot air-cooled VW engine from running on. It has been said that it could prevent a hydro lock in case the float valve failed. However, as it is referred to as an air cutoff valve sometimes I'm not sure that would be the case on the Goldwing. So, the question would be, can I just leave it disabled, or should I replace it? Maybe some who have done this conversion will have an opinion.
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Sticking?
How is it "sticking"?
Being a solenoid, once voltage is applied to it there should be nothing within the carburetor that will have it "stick" in the out position.
You've either a bad 12V feed to it (most likely a bad grounding of the carburetor) or a defective solenoid (either electrically or in the shaft).

Did you run a ground wire to that electrically isolated set-up? If so, where did you attach it? Was it a good ground?

Those solenoids rarely fail.

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PS ...you could just put a threaded plug in place of the solenoid if you trust the float needle to always do its job.

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Ground is run to frame. Tested 12V at solenoid contact. Pulled solenoid off and grounded it and it didn't work. With the end cut off it is effectively a plug anyway. My question, which I failed to articulate was does the solenoid cut off the air as the name implies, or does it cut the fuel supply to the idle circuit?
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OK, I know that the single carb setup is supposed to result in slightly decreased fuel milage. I seem to be getting better mileage (45mpg) than before. Of course, 4 carb setup needed work so that may be the answer.

Another theory I have is the bike seems to be able to cruise in a higher gear than before without lugging around town. I was talking with a friend, Leonard Wood, the original mechanic of the famed NASCAR Wood Brothers Racing. He tells me that longer intake manifolds, as is the case with the single carb setup will result in more torque and less top end if flow rates are similar. That would fit in with reports of others of lower top speed (not that I will ever know). What I do know is the bike seems to be able to run in OD at a lower speed than before without bogging down. Lower RPM = better MPG? "At low revolutions per minute (rpm), the speed of the airflow is increased by directing the air through a longer path with limited capacity (i.e., cross-sectional area) - and this assists in improving low engine speed torque."
This was found in a Wikipedia article. Just an FIY
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Sticking?
How is it "sticking"?
Being a solenoid, once voltage is applied to it there should be nothing within the carburetor that will have it "stick" in the out position.
You've either a bad 12V feed to it (most likely a bad grounding of the carburetor) or a defective solenoid (either electrically or in the shaft).

Did you run a ground wire to that electrically isolated set-up? If so, where did you attach it? Was it a good ground?

Those solenoids rarely fail.
Well, I got a new solenoid and grounded it against the negative battery terminal while running a wire directly to the positive terminal. It sticks as well unless you slightly nudge the plunger with your finger. Go figure
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Blueridgerunner,

What Carb & Manifold setup do you have?

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What Carb & Manifold setup do you have?
not trying to speak for BlueR here but I'm sure he's using "Juan's" from e bay with Solex carb.
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I think Blueridgerunner & Sergie are running the Solex 34Pict3

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I think Blueridgerunner & Sergie are running the Solex 34Pict3
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