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Hi Everyone,

I am going to pick up a set of progressive springs for the front end of my bike. It is quite saggy up there and in order to stiffen it up just a bit I have to put considerable air in the system. When I do this the front end becomes like a pogo stick on bumps. I was a little unnerved over the weekend while banking around a corner and the front end is jumping all around. Let's just say the "fun" I was having immediately disappeared.

Also, now that I have my complete new braking system including SS brake lines, the braking just a "bit" more touchy. I can stop on a dime and get a nickels change. I can almost bottom out in the front end depending on how fast I am going and how quick I need to slow down. This tends to make my wife slide into me.

I have been dreaming of a new set of 416 for the rear. We ride 2 up almost all the time and we are not light people to say the least. I was to GSMcLean site to see his installation. He mentioned that the "adapter kit" was not needed to hook up to the onboard air system (which I have).

So my question is for anyone that has purchased the 416 for an 1100.

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1) When you purchase a set of 416s, does the air hose and fittings come with it?

2) If so, does anyone know what is in the "adapter kit" that you could/would possibly need.

3) I need to find a good supplier of the front and back progressives that usually stocks them and has relatively good pricing. So if anyone has experience here, please chime in here too. I would prefer a supplier from here in Canada to get away from the duty crap and customs.

I am gearing up for a trip Cape Breton to "do" the Cabot Trail which is a couple hundred KM very mountainous ride. Hence the new brakes and the need for new front end support.

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1) The air hose and fittings do come with it.

2) The adapter kit comes with parts that let you connect it to the hoses that originally went to the OEM shocks. If you dispense with those hoses and connectors, you can connect it directly to the splitter (down near the rear brake master cylinder) without the kit. This is what I did.

3) I got mine from Cyclemax - they were very close to the best price I found on the web, and they're nearby, so I can pick them up and save on shipping. Can't help you in Canada.

I bought the adapter kit as well, and didn't use it. If you want to install yours using the kit, let me know and you can have mine.


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The 416's come with everything you need. The only issue I had (since I didn't buy the adapter kit) is the low air warning light is on all the time. Just ground that wire, it will go out and be fine.

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I connected my 1100's air system to the 416s with the adapter kit. At the time it was $15.00 makes for a quick connection. My 416s didn't come with anything to connect to the Honda airlines or splitter.

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The low air pressure switch is in the splitter down by the rear master cylinder. I just disconnected the two OEM lines from that splitter and screwed the fittings and lines that come with the 416 shocks in their place, and it all works great - including the low air pressure warning. Only thing is, the shocks are capable of running acceptably for a single lightweight rider at very low pressure, which will light up the warning light.


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Only thing is, the shocks are capable of running acceptably for a single lightweight rider at very low pressure, which will light up the warning light.
Ummmm,



I won't have an issue with this particular problem!



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Hey GS, (or anyone else that knows)

I have ordered today the Progressive front springs for my bike from my local Honda shop. They were only $10.00 more than on-line and no shipping. I am looking forward to what type of improvement they have to offer. However, the 416's are $168 more than any other place I have found. I will be ordering them in from another source (probably Cyclemax).

I sent an e-mail to Cyclemax late last night asking the current prices and stock status and stuff and got a reply by noon today (my time) which was awesome. I like them (Cyclemax) already. Some places takes weeks to answer simple questions and I will not deal with that type of business.

One of the things that Cyclemax quoted me on was a "Travel Limiter : 0.25" (pn: 30-5013 on the Progressive site)". The Progressive site mentions it's existance it in the foot notes by not noting that I need it.

During your article on you site GS, you made no mention of it. Did you use it? What does this part do? It's only $10 so I am going to order it in anyway but I was just curious to its function. Oh, and thanks for the offer for the kit. I don't think I will need it either though.

Anyone know or use this before?

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I ordered the adapter kit and new hoses and fittings directly from Progressive. Works like a charm but now I have a leak I have to trace down. I think one of the seals has blown out.

I'll be checking all that later this week when when I get to installing the new SS brake lines and the Wig-Wag for the brakes.

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I sent an e-mail to Cyclemax late last night asking the current prices and stock status and stuff and got a reply by noon today (my time) which was awesome. I like them (Cyclemax) already. Some places takes weeks to answer simple questions and I will not deal with that type of business.

One of the things that Cyclemax quoted me on was a "Travel Limiter : 0.25" (pn: 30-5013 on the Progressive site)". The Progressive site mentions it's existance it in the foot notes by not noting that I need it.

During your article on you site GS, you made no mention of it. Did you use it? What does this part do? It's only $10 so I am going to order it in anyway but I was just curious to its function. Oh, and thanks for the offer for the kit. I don't think I will need it either though.
Gary (Cyclemax owner) saw the same thing (travel limiter) listed as being required on the GL1100 in one of his books, but not in the other. To be sure, he called Progressive for me, and they told him that it is NOT required on the GL1100.



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I sent an e-mail to Cyclemax late last night asking the current prices and stock status and stuff and got a reply by noon today (my time) which was awesome. I like them (Cyclemax) already. Some places takes weeks to answer simple questions and I will not deal with that type of business.
Gary and Company at Cyclemax are good people. Too bad you don't live close. I stopped in there a while back and just didn't want to leave.... Lots and lots of toys.

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