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Old 05-06-2012, 09:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi folks.

I have been tidying up the rear end wiring on my friends 95 1500 wing.(UK spec bike).

The PO had made a bit of a mess adding all the extra tail lights so I have been re-wiring it all.

I have everything working as it should except the top box (trunk)spoiler light. It has 3 wires running to it. Black, orange and yellow.

Now, when I connect the spoiler light direct to a battery it works fine. I connect the black toearth then the yellow to+and I get a tail light. Then I also add the orangeto + (so yellow and orange are live)and I get a brake light.It also works when I connect one wire at a time (yellow tail, orange brake).

Now the problem. When I connect the spoiler light to the bike circuits via a 3 way plug (brake/tail and earth)I have spliced into the Stop/Tail light circuits in the trunk boxI only get the brake light working. If I disconnect the orange (brake) wireIget the tail light working.So I can have the light as a Stop light or tail light but not both.I have triple checked my wiring and it all seems right and everything else is working correctly.




The spoiler light was only wired in with 2 wires when I started work on it so I think the PO had the same issues.



DoI need any extra wiring bits? Any help will be very welcome.



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The rest of the brake lights are off when this happens, and go on when you hit the brake lever/pedal?
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yip.

Everything works fine. All tail lights work. Pull brake and all brake lights come on. Even the trunk spoiler light will work as either a stop or tail light (depending on which wire I connect) but not both.
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On the SE there is a special "RELAY" , adding apr. 9 volts to tail ligth and 12 volts for stop . The "high accessory ligth" should be connected to that !
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Thanks Smeden. Yes, I have that relay and system on my 2000 SE (US spec) but it is not on my friends bike (UKSpec). Ithink the led light has been added at some point. The only thing I can think of that may be causing this problem, is that there is not enough voltage to light the LED Brake light. I think I read somewhere they will only work within a certain voltage range. As he is changing the timing belts at the moment, we can't start the engine. With all the otherbrake lights on (6 bulbs)the drain on the battery might be taking to much power. I will charge the battery and remove some bulbs to see if that makes any difference.
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Vary the voltage to vary the brightness.. goodness an analogue tail/stop light. Probably extends the life of the tail light mode tho...
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Just an update on the light problem. I got in touch with big bike parts who sell the light and they confirmed that I do indeed need a little wire loom to make it work as a stop tail light. Part No 13-307.



Thanks to everyone for the help.




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Yes it's a wire with two diodes soldered end to end that you need. The way the US models work is that 6 volts goes to the LED strip through a module (which isn't fitted to UK models). When you hit the brakes, 12volts is sent through the module which gives full brightness.
Before BBP and Electrical Connections started selling a piece of wire with the diodes (for the GL1500 and later the 1800), we used to have to buy the diodes and solder them into the running light wire ourselves, and run another wire from the brake circuit.

Post number 10 in this thread has a wiring diagram for the spoiler, posted by sandiegobrass:

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/forum6/46458.html
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