View Poll Results: Which do you prefer and how often do you change
Aluminum 27 54.00%
Copper 9 18.00%
Neoprene (plastic) 0 0%
I change it every time 9 18.00%
I change it every other time 4 8.00%
I change it every 3rd to 5th time 12 24.00%
I never change mine 14 28.00%
No Preference 2 4.00%
As needed 7 14.00%
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Which Do you prefer?

You can vote for 2 items in the Poll.

I am putting on an aluminum one because thats what I took off, but I have several copper ones and neoprene washers also. Which is best, Better, OK?
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Never did like the term crush washer, to me it implies a one shot usage which couldn't be further from the truth.

Close tolerance sealing washer, yeah.

The real killer of a sealing washer is over tightening of a fastener which is common. Another killer is dirt or debris left behind on surfaces causing distortion and scoring of the washer. Copper takes more of a beating and is very noticeable under those conditions.

You think the local quikie lube puts new washers on for their 19.88 dollar specials. (and how many oil changes do they do a year) They wouldn't give them away and if new were put on should be billable on the invoice.

BTW I will change one when needed and only with OEM type.
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Well, a couple of thoughts on this.

First, the nut should not be tightened so much that it crushes the washer. I fear the threads will be over stressed.

Tighten it enough to secure it real snug, and that washer should last 2 or 3 uses.

If I had them in the spare parts box, I would change it out every other time just for grins.
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You think the local quikie lube puts new washers on for their 19.88 dollar specials. (and how many oil changes do they do a year) They wouldn't give them away and if new were put on should be billable on the invoice.

And how many drain hole threads do they strip? A hell of a lot of them. I see them quite often. Oil pans are expensive and they would save money by replacing the washer every time with the correct one.

The more times you use it and the harder the washer is the more likely you are to strip the threads.
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Jobe...

You need to add 2 more options to your poll...

a) No washer preference.
b) As needed.

In my case I don't have a preference and I only change them as needed. I use copper and aluminum.

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I remember hearing about one changer working with an Audi or BMW I think.

Drained the oil put 5 back in started it up and it was smoking like a banshee and wouldn't move.

He drained the transmission.
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I voted that the 'crush washer' needs to replaced each and every time…. because that's what it says in the Honda manual. There is a reason there is a torque value for the oil drain bolt… because it's supposed to have a new washer and the correct torque value is determined with a new washer.
I used to run a GoldWing speciality shop some years ago and 'yes' I did replace the crush washer every time I did an oil change. My techs were specifically instructed to replace the washer… each and every time. I made sure they were aware why it was required. It was simple enough…. look at a new Honda crush washer and a used washer. The difference is obvious.
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I remember hearing about one changer working with an Audi or BMW I think.

Drained the oil put 5 back in started it up and it was smoking like a banshee and wouldn't move.

He drained the transmission.
That used to be a frequent thing with the early Honda cars. The trans drain plug was a lot more accessible than the engine plug and the engines only held about 2 1/2 quarts.
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Jobe...

You need to add 2 more options to your poll...

a) No washer preference.
b) As needed.

In my case I don't have a preference and I only change them as needed. I use copper and aluminum.

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Tim your right, I should have added no preference and as needed, I looked and I don't see anyway to modify the poll now.

I am surprised at the folks who do not consider these "Crush Washers"........... I should have added that to the Poll also but I thought it was obvious what they were for and how they got their name.
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I am surprised at the folks who do not consider these "Crush Washers"........... I should have added that to the Poll also but I thought it was obvious what they were for and how they got their name.
Nobody in the shops I was in ever called them crush washer.

When going to the parts window it was (Let me have 4 copper caliper washers or drain plug washer)

We knew what they did and when to replace.
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