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My 88 did not have the recall done and had the stumble. I went from the #50 to a #60 and it took care of about 95% of the stumble. I could not find a #55. Do not change the main jet. The #50 low speed jet is what is causing the stumble problem. If you are pulling the carb, get new carb boots and replace the float bowl seals while you are in there. Also a good idea to replace the problem vacuum hose that sits under the carb. You can still get all of these parts from Honda.

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Thanks Snowmoer! I was just checking those slow jet sizes and you answered my question. I ordered a Randakk's kit and waiting on it now. Its my intent to order that size. Just hit honda parts fiche looking at the sizes. 1990 shows the first year to have the #60.
1988 and 89 had the #50. I will wait until I disassemble the carbs to see what the actual size is. Likely it is #50. No evidence of an
"X" stamped anywhere on the frame in area of the battery box.
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Took off all Tupperware this afternoon. Now to start the task of keeping all hoses in order taking lots of pics. In the past have always used a stinky smelly carb cleaner...not this time. Have read where several have boiled there carbs out with distilled water to antifreeze. What is the advantage if any to antifreeze?
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Haven't done any carb work, but hear the vacuum lines can be a nightmare. Thought it might be advantageous to tag the lines as you get ready to take them off, and photograph them with the numbers in place for reassembly reference. I use this product for wiring issues in my business, when the number of wires gets cumbersome. Maybe something along that line ? Same number at each end of each vac line. You can create double digit numbers with 2 strips applied. Might help.

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Haven't done any carb work, but hear the vacuum lines can be a nightmare. Thought it might be advantageous to tag the lines as you get ready to take them off, and photograph them with the numbers in place for reassembly reference. I use this product for wiring issues in my business, when the number of wires gets cumbersome. Maybe something along that line ? Same number at each end of each vac line. You can create double digit numbers with 2 strips applied. Might help.

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

I use the same exact thing, and have all my working life....
I used to work in Telephone Switch Centers, and you don't dare make a mistake and wire up a 600 pair cable to the wrong 600 pair cable.....

that will cost you your job.
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It was mid-seventies here yesterday so I was motivated even though I have a bad case of bronchitis to start this tear down.
But its stockshow here in Fort Worth so anytime the next few days or so the weather will reverse!!!

Jim Martino's website regarding the carb removal on his wing has been very helpful so far. Hopefully is pics on the carb disassembly will be as hopefully.

Id'ing everything with pics is on the the list but thinking colored tape of some variety. This bike has never has the air cleaner off. Meaning the bottom half of the air cleaner that is attached to the carburetors. Its my first rodeo from there down....as I indicated earlier. The interesting thing I have found is all the hoses are original and are NUMBERED!!!!

The only other item after reassembly will be to re-plumb my bypassed auto shutoff valve. I need to examine the vacuum line to it. I think that may have been the cause of some of my issues from a few years back that led me to bypass it. The hoses have a light dusting of dirt on them typical for the bike age. Will examine each hose after carb removal.

As for cleaning the carbs I do not want to use Chem-tool carb cleaner. While yes it works, its horribly stinky and the odor just clings to everything. SO going to get a crock pot and boil them in distilled water for several hours then blow out with compressed air. Unless someone else has a better idea on cleaning agent. Let me know.
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I highly suggest you go to an auto parts store, and get the 3M numbered tapes.

they are white, and have black numerals on them, and they are much narrower than a roll of electricians tape.

if you put #5 wire back on the screw with #5 stuck to it, you can't go wrong
and they will stick forever, so the next time you drop that wire and say "aw crap", don't matter, it is numbered #5 still yet.
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It was mid-seventies here yesterday so I was motivated even though I have a bad case of bronchitis to start this tear down.
But its stockshow here in Fort Worth so anytime the next few days or so the weather will reverse!!!

Jim Martino's website regarding the carb removal on his wing has been very helpful so far. Hopefully is pics on the carb disassembly will be as hopefully.

Id'ing everything with pics is on the the list but thinking colored tape of some variety. This bike has never has the air cleaner off. Meaning the bottom half of the air cleaner that is attached to the carburetors. Its my first rodeo from there down....as I indicated earlier. The interesting thing I have found is all the hoses are original and are NUMBERED!!!!

The only other item after reassembly will be to re-plumb my bypassed auto shutoff valve. I need to examine the vacuum line to it. I think that may have been the cause of some of my issues from a few years back that led me to bypass it. The hoses have a light dusting of dirt on them typical for the bike age. Will examine each hose after carb removal.

As for cleaning the carbs I do not want to use Chem-tool carb cleaner. While yes it works, its horribly stinky and the odor just clings to everything. SO going to get a crock pot and boil them in distilled water for several hours then blow out with compressed air. Unless someone else has a better idea on cleaning agent. Let me know.
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Well, if they're numbered, aren't you a lucky dog. I've heard folks on here referring to hoses by a number, but thought that was the parts identification number, not a number physically on the hose. Hope you can photograph them with all their numbers showing, while in place. An alternative for any other lines/wires you might need to number, would be masking tape, with numbers written on the tape with a Sharpie pen. Good luck. Glad it's not me.....yet

One other thing, from the guy with probably the least experience in this area
If you replace any hoses with sharp bends, they are probably preformed hoses. It might pay to get the OEM replacement for those, as regular stock hose will have a tendency to kink in a sharp turn. And keep in mind these are 'vacuum' hoses, meaning they are subject to 'collapsing' pressure by the vacuum applied. So, structural strength (wall thickness) and rigidity is important to avoid having one restrict under vacuum, especially in a hard turn.

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Well, if they're numbered, aren't you a lucky dog. I've heard folks on here referring to hoses by a number, but thought that was the parts identification number, not a number physically on the hose. Hope you can photograph them with all their numbers showing, while in place. An alternative for any other lines/wires you might need to number, would be masking tape, with numbers written on the tape with a Sharpie pen. Good luck. Glad it's not me.....yet

they won't be numbered, unless you personally have the 3M roll of numbered tapes 0-9

and when you take something off, put a number on it and a matching number where you took it off from....

that and pictures
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I can't tell if you're serious or just pushing the tape idea here...
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