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During the winter time I like to change the oil warm. It keeps my fingers warm.
Fingers, hand, arm up to the elbow.
I agree with Dennis. Most service manuals say warm so the oil is mixed up and will carry the contaminants away. I think that is the preferred method. As for the draining overnight I had a bad experience. I had a VW that I drained warm and let it drain over night. Thought that would be a good thing. Changed the oil and started the engine to find no oil pressure. The oil pump got so fry it lost it's prime. Kind of panicked. Already had the filter full before even starting it so I tried removing the filter and run the engine. No luck. It was just not going to prime and I was getting to a point where the lifters were starting to get noisey. I ended up overfilling it by a lot. Let it sit several hours and hit the key to find it had oil pressure again. Drained out the excess oil and all was good again. I know that is unusual but I will never do that on another engine. Especially one that has quite a few miles on it and probably worn oil pump elements. I'm guessing the old pump just didn't suck like it should.


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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-09-2017, 11:50 PM
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I have always just pulled the drain plug. Warm, cold, whatever. It stays out until I think it is done. Usually I pull it and go have a sandwich and a drink.

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IF you are using seafoam in the oil before change, it does need a good 10-15 minute blaster ride to fully warm the oil before draining.
Sludge type material does settle and harden at the bottom of the oil pan -on a car engine- when left overnight after a good seafoam cleaning run
The warm-up will re-liquify the crud, and send it out the drain.

Thats assuming the oil filter doesnt capture all the bad stuff,
which I suppose if we still used rolls of toilet paper as oil filters,,, that would be an issue

short version: Just oil, either temp, just let it drain as much as possible.
Seafoam added- MUST be warm!

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