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Spring Oil Change Question

I always change the engine oil right before putting my Wing away for the winter. Except this year - just didn't have the time. When it's time to ride in the Spring, what's the best procedure for changing the oil? Warm the bike up and then drain it? Or just drain it cold, before starting the bike? TIA.

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Always hot. Drains better.

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That was my guess. Thanks.

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I would not start up a cold bike just to warm it .... especially up there in Canada? That last time you shut it down when you parked it ... the then HOT oil settled as low as it will after the next shut down.

If you want to change oil and filter all in one 30 minute segment like before the ride this afternoon, then yes .... you'll need to after engine shut down while warm.

But if like mine, the bike (on center stand) or trike is parked where I'm gonna do my next change anyway, I'd much rather just get my drain pans out and pull the drain plug and filter and walk away for from it while we go to Costco or whatever ..... and come back the next day and put the plug in and a new filter and add oil. It's not like you are in a rush. The oil will drain every bit as much as it will hot, just slower.

And that's one less cold start up, less wear, no condensation in exhaust, etc. I wouldn't even connect the battery .... just hang a tag on it saying "NO OIL" until I finished tomorrow ..... or next week.


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Hmmm......that makes sense. Whenever I do an oil change I usually let the bike drain for a few hours, maybe overnight anyway.
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I try to get a almost decent day and go for a ride, then change it while it is warm.

but, the truth is, the old oil is still in it, and will stay there until spring time.
I am not going to start it up just to "warm it up", that is bad news.

It drove into the garage, all hot and bothered, and that is where it stayed when the wife got since back in August.
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Well I've always change my oil cold.. I figurer all the old oil has dropped to the bottom.. Starting it up just sends the old oil through the engine.. With oil viscosity it's light when it's cold and heavy when it's hot so the drain time is about the same.....
I don't think it's a big deal either way.......

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I read somewhere that oil can develop acids that may eat away at the internals, and that's why they say to change it before storage.

The reason they suggest warming the bike before changing oil is to get the crud and goo into suspension so it will drain with the oil.

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I read somewhere that oil can develop acids that may eat away at the internals, and that's why they say to change it before storage.
Sure, that's a truth .... and if it's time to change like at end of your season ..... but OP is past that point now .... but he can do it tomorrow ..... which is still better than 6 months from now.


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The reason they suggest warming the bike before changing oil is to get the crud and goo into suspension so it will drain with the oil.
I never heard that one.


You gonna start a cold bike to warm last season's dirty/acidic oil that is gonna drain the same this time as it did last time you shut it off hot just to get some last bit that is maybe fell out of suspension in the bottom of the crankcase .... with the hope being to get it suspended again maybe ???


If it's something up on the sides of the motor's internals, it's no more likely to get swept down below by a warm up than it was at end of last ride? If it's something that fell out of suspension in the bottom of the crankcase / trans floor, I think it likely the oil flowing out the drain will get a bunch of it anyway.


I think (IMHO) it far better to just do the drain if it's already cool .... and put in fresh oil & filter .... and then if you think you want to start it .... start it then with fresh clean oil and new filter which will filter that stuff out and fill all those galleys and passages with that pretty clean stuff.


The only reason for a warm up before change that I've ever heard is to speed the drain like "I want to change my oil now" so that cold oil isn't left slowly dripping from high places like it would if you just started it and moved a few feet to where you were gonna do the change without a complete warm up .... and because a start without thorough warming leaves condensation all inside the motor and exhaust as it never get's hot enough to eliminate it.


Unless I have some other reason to have the engine running .... like maybe I did just finish a ride (or drive if cage or mowing the yard if tractor, etc) .... I've always dropped it cold and allowed it a long drip time. There's always other chores.


Anyway ..... everyone has their habits, reasons, preferences, etc ....
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During the winter time I like to change the oil warm. It keeps my fingers warm.
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