| 1983 GL 1100 engine rebuild | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 2nd, 2012 05:33 am | 41st Post |
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Schweisshund wrote: Ok, I have a puzzle. I have the parts bike motor apart. I am in the process of cleaning everything. However, I went to the other bike, an 83 GL1100 and took the timing belts off. I was able to turn the crank bolt almost completely but it got stuck at one point. I turned it the opposite direction, and it got stuck at the same point.It's unlikely that you had a bent valve or valves but highly likely that you do now. 
____________________ Advise given here is free and comes with no warranty "Caveat emptor". Ken |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 2nd, 2012 06:27 am | 42nd Post |
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I had the timing marks where they were supposed to be before all the problems started. The engine idled and ran just fine. I was able to take it up and down the street just fine, then when I gave it some throttle, white smoke came out of the right exhaust and a very loud rattle came from the motor. I took it home, let it idle when everything seized. Taking the timing belts off, turning each pulley 90 degrees, hand turning the crank and it getting stuck at one point, turning it in opposite direction and it getting stuck at the same point - then putting it in 5th it gets unstuck, then ignition turns the crank .... what happened to initially seize it?
____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 2nd, 2012 07:02 am | 43rd Post |
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Schweisshund wrote: I had the timing marks where they were supposed to be before all the problems started. The engine idled and ran just fine. I was able to take it up and down the street just fine, then when I gave it some throttle, white smoke came out of the right exhaust and a very loud rattle came from the motor. I took it home, let it idle when everything seized.Sorry I failed to read the whole thread once again.  I have no idea what caused the initial seizing but forcing the engine to turn with the belts off and heads still on may have masked the problem and or created more problems. Rule of thumb is if it won't turn don't force it but instead investigate and find the reason.
____________________ Advise given here is free and comes with no warranty "Caveat emptor". Ken |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 2nd, 2012 03:59 pm | 44th Post |
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YES! These are interference motors. With the belts off, the pistons hit any valve that is open. Damage to valve and piston, possible the rod too. Last edited on Mon Jan 2nd, 2012 04:00 pm by newday777 ____________________ Stu John 14:6 CMA Wings of Eagles-Escondido CA SAN DIEGO Patriot Guard Ryder 1999 GL1500 SE(@57k) The LORD provided this through a friend's wish to leave it to me I'm blown away! Dan beat me there and is enjoying the real Heaven. Remember to be there for your friends and thank them for being your friend. Previous bikes 1983 ASPENCADE(Barn find) bought 7/08 & restored from 13 yr neglect by po @ 35,595mi, now given to a pastor to enjoy the blessings @ 62,000 25 Yrs. of Abstinance(no bike) - Raising kids, now a PA PA 76 CB750K(new) w/Golden Lab Cody, rode w/me 35k miles & 5 times X country in 3 yrs sold @ 45k 75 CB750K(new) 9,000 mi http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/MC-Dispatch/Royce-Thiessen-Honda-CB750.aspx 74 CB450(new) 9,000 mi first yrhttp://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cb_450_disc_1974.php |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 2nd, 2012 06:20 pm | 45th Post |
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Damn This damage was done BEFORE I removed the belts and quite possibly when PO dropped it. I have to replace this side anyway, as when it was dropped, it cracked the crankcase on this side and oil was leaking everywhere. Even though the cylinder walls are still smooth, I am sure it is warped. Last edited on Mon Jan 2nd, 2012 06:27 pm by Schweisshund ____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 05:07 am | 46th Post |
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 Between the two motors I should be able to get one. This one took me a heck of a lot faster to dismantle now that I had practice with the parts bike. Last edited on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 05:08 am by Schweisshund ____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 02:42 pm | 47th Post |
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Looks like you found the problem!! Last edited on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 07:18 pm by sandiegobrass ____________________ Please consider helping Rudy at the link... LINK TO HELP RUDY --------------- Have a Gold Wing? Please take the AGE POLL HERE ! --------------- If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong? --------------- SDB/Jim 2000 GL1500SE in CA 1983 GL1100I in SC --------------- But formerly San Diego and now "temporarily" Aiken, SC |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 05:49 pm | 48th Post |
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I have never given a name to one of any bikes I have owned. I am considering naming this one "Humpty Dumpty".
____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2012 02:57 am | 49th Post |
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____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2012 02:58 am | 50th Post |
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____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2012 02:59 am | 51st Post |
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____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2012 03:00 am | 52nd Post |
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That piston is not even good for an ash tray Last edited on Wed Feb 8th, 2012 01:05 pm by newday777 ____________________ Stu John 14:6 CMA Wings of Eagles-Escondido CA SAN DIEGO Patriot Guard Ryder 1999 GL1500 SE(@57k) The LORD provided this through a friend's wish to leave it to me I'm blown away! Dan beat me there and is enjoying the real Heaven. Remember to be there for your friends and thank them for being your friend. Previous bikes 1983 ASPENCADE(Barn find) bought 7/08 & restored from 13 yr neglect by po @ 35,595mi, now given to a pastor to enjoy the blessings @ 62,000 25 Yrs. of Abstinance(no bike) - Raising kids, now a PA PA 76 CB750K(new) w/Golden Lab Cody, rode w/me 35k miles & 5 times X country in 3 yrs sold @ 45k 75 CB750K(new) 9,000 mi http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/MC-Dispatch/Royce-Thiessen-Honda-CB750.aspx 74 CB450(new) 9,000 mi first yrhttp://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cb_450_disc_1974.php |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2012 03:05 am | 53rd Post |
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Everything bad in the dropped engine has been replaced with good parts from the parts bike. The entire crankcase on the dropped bike (both halves) was brittle and cracked. The parts bike crankcase had no cracks. Evertyhing moves in the rebuilt motor like it should. I am going to install it back into the bike next week.
____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 04:46 pm | 54th Post |
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Its being installed - just got the carbs back in.
____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 08:22 pm | 55th Post |
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excellent job on the rebuild and using both engines to make one good one. Keep it up and you'll enjoy riding soon.
____________________ Dave Ride Safe and Ride Often, Keep the Shiny Side up and Many Happy Miles and Smiles. "In God We Trust" All Others Must pay Cash!!! Current Goldwing 2010 Gl1800 Trike Other Rides 1985 Goldwing Aspencade Blue - Sold 2006 Harley Davidson Sportster - Sold 2006 Goldwing Navi - Sold 2007 Honda Rebel 250cc 2007 Honda 110cc 1985 1200cc Goldwing Aspencade Beige 1994 1500cc Goldwing Interstate Black 2010 1800cc Goldwing Trike Red |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 11:36 am | 56th Post |
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i see it`s coming along.
____________________ 1979 gl1000 dressed --back to naked 1980 gl1100 interstate --side lined 1983 gl1100 interstate the fastest color--RED retired trucker---going to see it again ----on 2 wheels---love it--love it http://serrasj.com/ gwrra 003663 |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 03:29 am | 57th Post |
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Hi I had bought a motor on e bay that did the same thing it was one of the metal pieces from the magneto thtat was missing a rivot that was stopping me from turning take off the back cover check it out. you will have to have the motor out to do that anyway. Stevee out.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 01:07 pm | 58th Post |
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Welcome to the forum Steve21404 What year is you 1100 standard? How many miles on it?
____________________ Stu John 14:6 CMA Wings of Eagles-Escondido CA SAN DIEGO Patriot Guard Ryder 1999 GL1500 SE(@57k) The LORD provided this through a friend's wish to leave it to me I'm blown away! Dan beat me there and is enjoying the real Heaven. Remember to be there for your friends and thank them for being your friend. Previous bikes 1983 ASPENCADE(Barn find) bought 7/08 & restored from 13 yr neglect by po @ 35,595mi, now given to a pastor to enjoy the blessings @ 62,000 25 Yrs. of Abstinance(no bike) - Raising kids, now a PA PA 76 CB750K(new) w/Golden Lab Cody, rode w/me 35k miles & 5 times X country in 3 yrs sold @ 45k 75 CB750K(new) 9,000 mi http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/MC-Dispatch/Royce-Thiessen-Honda-CB750.aspx 74 CB450(new) 9,000 mi first yrhttp://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cb_450_disc_1974.php |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 05:44 am | 59th Post |
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 Its been in for a week now. I re-charged the battery and took spark plugs out. It did not want to turn over with starter (at first). Then ... I got it to turn over with the starter and drained the battery. Now, it does not want to turn over. I am thinking it is because it needs to be lubricated (I put oil in, but not enough has hit everything inside the motor). I will figure it out eventually. Also, it is in 5th gear and gears can't change (also a lubrication problem). Last edited on Thu Feb 9th, 2012 05:46 am by Schweisshund ____________________ "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before" - Stephen Wright Bikes: 1981 GL 1100 - current restoration project 1983 GS 550 E - found in boneyard, runs like a top now. 1984 Nighthawk 700 S -- sold 1st bike 1984 N |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 02:28 pm | 60th Post |
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I did the same thing about 6 years ago . I got an 1100 with two bad engines and one of the piston looks the same as yours i now use it as a paper weight . I know people say buy a good engine but theirs nothing like riding a bike and you know you had your hands in the belly of the beast and you got it going again .
____________________ hi im gary and i suffer from MBS [multiply bike syndrome] once you have one bike you need more than one and i need help getting more |
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