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| Posted: Sun Feb 5th, 2012 04:54 am | 81st Post |
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____________________ Happy Trails http://www.bluegrasshighway.com http://www.live365.com/index.live?curl=%2Fstations%2Febanjo I'm looking for a 4 wheeler Triumph TR5 or TR6 fixer upper. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 5th, 2012 11:11 am | 82nd Post |
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Bike cleaned up real nice Congrats on all your hard work enjoy your ride Last edited on Sun Feb 5th, 2012 11:12 am by sle104 |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 5th, 2012 01:23 pm | 83rd Post |
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Just wanted to give a huge thanks to every member who offered advice and expertise, there's no way the bike would be running without everyone's help here on the forum. Kerry Last edited on Sun Feb 5th, 2012 01:31 pm by casetractor |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 6th, 2012 05:15 pm | 84th Post |
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casetractor wrote:Thanks everyone for all the great advice, finally got it running. For some reason the fuel pump came back to life after I reinstalled it following the test on the battery. She fired right up and ran perfectly without the mysterious stallout. Got it all back together, looking forward to a nice long ride. I'll post pictures in a minute for anyone interested. It sounds like you may have had a bad connection somewhere. I've had that happen a few times. You get frustrated trying to track down the problem, give up and throw it back together, and abracadabra, it works. Go figure.  At least it ended well for you. That's a nice looking classic, too.
____________________ Paul CE1 Navy Seabees/RET 1981 to 2002 ASE Mechanic Previous Bikes: 1977 Kawasaki KZ400 1978 Suzuki GSXr750 1980 Kawasaki GPZ400 1975 Honda CB360T |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 6th, 2012 05:36 pm | 85th Post |
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Great job. Nice looking bike. Good Luck.
____________________ Viet Nam Vet Jan-Sept 70 USN MCB10. V.F.W. Post 1946 Life Member A.M.A. Member #1101966 NFD IAFF Local 1219 Retired. Elks Lodge #967 Bike History: 68 Triumph 250 Single, 1970 Honda CB450, 70 Moto Guzzi 700, 73 Honda CB750K, 74 Honda Shadow 750, 19 Yrs. of Abstinance, 1983 Honda GL1100I. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 6th, 2012 07:57 pm | 86th Post |
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On to the charging system now, unexpectedly. I took it out for an evening ride last night with the bike running absolutely perfect, just purring along. I stopped at the gym for about an hour, came out, bike fired up immediately, like just one hit of the starter as usual. Everything great, except I noticed that the tachometer stopped working. I looked at the voltmeter, and as it has always read, 13.8 volts regardless of engine RPM. I then took it out along the beach, stopped for a minute to look at the view, hit the starter again, annnnnd...... it would barely turn over, the starter had almost no juice. It fired up since it starts so easily, but it was a close one. I got it home, thinking that the stator was out, but the voltmeter continued to read 13.8 volts for the eight miles home. With that in mind, I thought maybe it was the starter since the voltage was good. I put it on the trickle charger last night, and the bike fired right up as usual this morning, no problem evident. I'm guessing it must be the stator, but why would the voltmeter read 13.8 if that was the case? Moreover, could the tachometer be a symptom of the charging problem, or is that probably a separate issue? Thanks in advance for any thoughts! Last edited on Mon Feb 6th, 2012 11:03 pm by casetractor |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 01:42 pm | 87th Post |
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So here's an update thanks to a check with the voltmeter, looks like the stator is dead. I'm in the process now of ordering the parts to replace after I pull the engine (stator, timing belts, clutch plates, gaskets, as well as a new voltage regulator) and studying the wealth of information here on the process of R&Ring the engine. One question: I've heard of the starter sprag clutches going out on these bikes with some frequency, which to fix obviously requires the engine to be pulled as well. I'm wondering, should I replace the sprag clutch while I'm in there, or would it be sufficient just to clean out the sludge that's probably accumulated in it?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 02:31 pm | 88th Post |
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Did you do all the tests to get the determination of the stator gone? Did you have the battery load tested? Did clean the starter? They get dirty from the brushes wearing and all that dust causes the starter not to work properly when hot like you had. Your last post said thanks to a check with the voltmeter, the one on the bike? Starter clutch problems are usually, not always, a clogged oil screen and not enough oil getting to the starter clutch, or the wrong oil used. Be sure and clean that out.
____________________ Stu John 14:6 CMA Wings of Eagles-Escondido CA SAN DIEGO Patriot Guard Ryder 1999 GL1500 SE(@57k) The LORD provided this through a friend's wish to leave it to me I'm blown away! Dan beat me there and is enjoying the real Heaven. Remember to be there for your friends and thank them for being your friend. Previous bikes 1983 ASPENCADE(Barn find) bought 7/08 & restored from 13 yr neglect by po @ 35,595mi, now given to a pastor to enjoy the blessings @ 62,000 25 Yrs. of Abstinance(no bike) - Raising kids, now a PA PA 76 CB750K(new) w/Golden Lab Cody, rode w/me 35k miles & 5 times X country in 3 yrs sold @ 45k 75 CB750K(new) 9,000 mi http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/MC-Dispatch/Royce-Thiessen-Honda-CB750.aspx 74 CB450(new) 9,000 mi first yrhttp://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cb_450_disc_1974.php |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 12:09 pm | 89th Post |
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newday777 wrote: Did you do all the tests to get the determination of the stator gone? Thanks Newday, I haven't done any tests on it yet. I was planning on cleaning the starter here one of these weekends so that will rule that out. The battery is new so I'm guessing it's ok. I saw that the voltmeter on the bike wasn't showing any increase in output with higher RPM's, so I took it to the local shop just to get some thoughts on what might be going on from an expert. He tested the charging system with his multimeter and it showed the same thing, nothing being charged. I'm going to cut my (freshly soldered) wires and test the stator this weekend to see if that's it. If it is the stator, after reading more about the poorboy conversion I'm thinking that might be the best option at this point. Last edited on Thu Feb 9th, 2012 12:14 pm by casetractor |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 03:12 pm | 90th Post |
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sounds like your starter needs cleaning on your charging system the stator must be ok since the voltage didn't drop on your ride from the beach,but since you hardwired the stator connector you can recheck the stator by disconnecting the regulator connector and check at that point if that reg connector hasn't been hardwired,that will also allow you to check that connection,also check your solenoid connector which can often result in a charging problem if that connection is bad too
____________________ "ANY DAY ABOVE GROUND IS A GOOD DAY,ANY DAY YOU CAN RIDE IS A GREAT DAY" |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2012 01:41 pm | 91st Post |
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neoracer wrote: sounds like your starter needs cleaning Good info Neoracer, I'll check those things out today before jumping to the conclusion that the stator is out. The mechanic when I brought it in just looked at the bike briefly, i.e. hooked up his multimeter (mine quit working) to the battery while the bike was running and saw no output. He said he was guessing it was the stator given the age of the bike and his experience with replacing dozens of them on GL1200's over the years at about this mileage. Didn't charge me for just looking at it, so that was cool. I like your idea about testing the stator at the VR plug so I don't have to cut and re-solder the stator wires, hadn't thought about that. I'll see how it tests out today. I'll also check the solenoid connections, that could be it as I just replaced it with a new unit.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2012 09:54 pm | 92nd Post |
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Just tested the stator, it's putting out around 5, 12, and 20 VAC across each of the legs. Looks like it's poorboy installation time.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16th, 2012 07:41 pm | 93rd Post |
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OK, got my PB kit and new timing belts and am planning on delving into the project this weekend. One question for you folks, I went to pick up the 50 amp fuse and fuse holder (blade style) at NAPA and it's huge. Will a 50 amp auto-reset breaker do the job?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 02:44 am | 94th Post |
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casetractor wrote: OK, got my PB kit and new timing belts and am planning on delving into the project this weekend. I'd rather have the breaker, if you mean for your positive between the battery and your external altrnator.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 02:54 am | 95th Post |
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Bufallowing wrote: casetractor wrote:OK, got my PB kit and new timing belts and am planning on delving into the project this weekend. that's what i had in mind, the auto-reset breaker between the battery and the alternator.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 02:20 pm | 96th Post |
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here's another question, any thoughts on what to do with the old stator wires? They're cut right now due to the testing procedure, not sure if it's necessary to resolder them.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 04:41 pm | 97th Post |
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Won't matter if they're hooked up or not. I would at least put heat shrink to prevent any problems.
____________________ Paul CE1 Navy Seabees/RET 1981 to 2002 ASE Mechanic Previous Bikes: 1977 Kawasaki KZ400 1978 Suzuki GSXr750 1980 Kawasaki GPZ400 1975 Honda CB360T |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 04:58 pm | 98th Post |
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Thanks Seabee
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 10:39 pm | 99th Post |
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Thought I'd post a few pictures. Just put in the new timing belts and hoping to get the alternator in this weekend maybe. old belts on: Attachment: old belts.JPG (Downloaded 54 times)
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 10:43 pm | 100th Post |
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new belts Attachment: new belts on.JPG (Downloaded 53 times)
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