| Oil, synthetic or non-synthetic for 1500 | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 02:59 pm | 21st Post |
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dj norm wrote: ..i found out that the JASO MA is the important point to look on the can. While compatability with wet clutches is important... the actual JASCO MA rating does not necessarily make it a best choice in oil (read Rudy's post above).. There are literally hundreds of oils that would pass the JASCO MA rating test if the manufacturer desired to target that segment, and go through the testing to get the rating.. Delo 400 15W40 is an oil designed targeted and marketed for commercial use (diesels, industrial engines, etc.).. Motorcycles are not the intended market and even when you ask Chevron, they say it is not a motorcycle oil.... but by my experience (and looking at the oil analysis comparisons) it is the best oil for my bike (and for many others) Incidently, I had the same experience with the Rotella as Rudy.. went in fine, but after 3000 miles was black as coal and thin as water... don't care about the black as coal (maybe it was cleaning the engine), but thin as water was bothersone... Note: JASCO DH-1 and DH-2 are not motorcycle ratings Last edited on Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 03:07 pm by sandiegobrass ____________________ Please consider helping Rudy at the link... LINK TO HELP RUDY --------------- Have a Gold Wing? Please take the AGE POLL HERE ! --------------- If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong? --------------- SDB/Jim 2000 GL1500SE in CA 1983 GL1100I in SC --------------- But formerly San Diego and now "temporarily" Aiken, SC |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 03:16 pm | 22nd Post |
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Ya ... I ride up here in the Great White North  when the temps are often in the 20sF/-7C and have no problems with the Delo.I had approx 35K on my bike less than 4 yrs ago, when I switched to the Delo and I now have over 170K and a lot of it is with the bike loaded down, riding in all kinds of conditions imaginable and those that have ridden with me know I don't 'baby' my bike when I'm not in a group riding situation!  
____________________ Ken - 1992 GL1500 Aspencade - Dorksider # 2 6th Officer/Road Captain - CMC, 034 Cannington Chapter Find your Path and share the Journey! "It's never too early to plan and never too late to go!" - Dusty Boots Hmm ..... wonder where that stretch of blacktop leads to ...... What has Dusty been up to Prevent/Repair those cracked 1500 trunk lids by installing a set of Rudy's Lid Reinforcement Panels to the underside of your trunk lid. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 04:50 pm | 23rd Post |
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I have used the white jug Shell 15w/40 and found it very comparable to the DELO. I have also used the DELVAC (black bottle) and have nothing negative to report. I got the DELVAC on sale recently (came out to $8 a gallon). I will admit that I only switched to the 15/40 stuff last year though. DELO will still be my #1 choice though. I buy them all because I use the same oil in my 243,000 mile Isuzu Rodeo. Last edited on Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 04:53 pm by rpeters549 ____________________ Vote one for year-round riding! Finally a double darksider... And I like it. Previous wings: 88k mile '78GL1000, 13k mile '77 GL1000 (resto at home, neat story!), '81 GL1100 Interstate. Previous non-wing others: CB360T, GS550L, 650 spcl (first bike!), Silverwing 500, Spectre 1100, VFR700F, CB900 Custom. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 09:02 pm | 24th Post |
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geeee just as I thought i solve the oil problem more info came in and make me back to square one... I think i will stick with the old Valvoline ATV 10w40 i was using in my LTD for now until I have a chance to X the border and get some DELO... thanks gang
____________________ Norm. 1985 GL 1200 LTD 2001-2012 (Great Machine) 1997 GL 1500 SE 2012-NOW Arte et marte. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 01:44 am | 25th Post |
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I'll diddo the DELO 400 LE...much smother shifting and quieter engine.... 
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 02:32 am | 26th Post |
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Kimswang you mention to make sure it says: 10-40W, API Grade SF or SG what about jaso MA
____________________ Norm. 1985 GL 1200 LTD 2001-2012 (Great Machine) 1997 GL 1500 SE 2012-NOW Arte et marte. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 03:55 am | 27th Post |
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Dusty Boots wrote: Kim .... not belittling your 'racing experience', but I have tried those expensive synthetics and I can't tell any difference between them and the cheaper Delo ... and that's with my real world experience. I don't care who makes it, or what type it is, or who sells it .... why waste money on something that performs at the same level for our real life engines, when you don't need to. While I was sponsored by Castrol I did this testing with the then new synthetic oils and we installed temprerature sensors inside the engines. I was very impressed by the decline in internal temperature and have since used nothing but. I have also seen wet clutches burned up in 10 minutes due to being the wrong type of oil, albeith synthetic. For 99% of us, any 10-40W with a SF or a SG on the bottle will do just fine. I want to retire with this bike and I do not let any GSX-R's (or others) run away from me, hence I stick to what I know works, and that I tested myself together with engineers from Castrol. Again, I recommend Castrol or Mobil 1 Synthetic oil with a 10-40W grade and SF or SG mark on the bottle. I am sure there are many other oils that will work just fine, but I am also aware that there are plenty of them that will ruin your clutch in no time if ridden semi hard. To openly admit that a wallyworld oil made ones transmission shift so much smoother says a whole lot more about how little one maintain his/her bike, rather than the quality of the oil in my humble opinion, and that is not aimed at you Ken. I know you maintain yours beyond what's normal for it to last through all the miles you put it through. Never, ever, change a winning team ! As to your question if I have ever tried Dello, I have to admit I have never used that oil. It might be the perfect oil for a GW, but I know for a fact that the ones I mentioned above will never do harm to my engine and is tested by me. Good oil is probably the cheapest insurance you can possibly get for an engine and I have taken note of the name Dello, should I ever run out of my personally tested ones. Kim !
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 03:56 am | 28th Post |
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dj norm wrote: Kimswang you mention to make sure it says: 10-40W, API Grade SF or SG what about jaso MA Not in my engine. If no SF or no SG is found on the bottle, leave it to others and get something that does.
____________________ Summer is here, happy riding and stay safe ! |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 05:25 am | 29th Post |
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sandiegobrass wrote: .......... I have the exact same results in my 5.9L Dodge Cummins. Rotella is not friendly to that engine. Delo 400 though runs cleaner, holds oil pressure better, for at least twice as long as the Rotella watery stuff. Delo 400 is the only oil for my bikes for the last 5 or 6 years.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 10:10 am | 30th Post |
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#1 all oil is good as long as you have oil !I used to use Honda oil that I got at the Honda shop Then I went to a Honda Synthetic Blend ! That was until I Changed to Amsoil & now I wont use anything but ! I used to change my oil at 2,000 miles religious Then I Swiched to the synthetic blend which I didn`t change until 4,500 mi ! All of the oil I used I had a problem with breaking down at like 1,800 miles & The shifting became notchy & Unsmooth I even used BG (EPC) Extreme Pressure Concintrate ) & No change until I swiched to Amsoil & Now everytime I shift gears It feels like a Hot knif going through warm Butter ! Hey you can use anything you want Hey you can use beer although I woulnt recomend it but then again Its free will Brother its free will ! Thats my story & Im sticken to it !
____________________ All good things come to He who waitith if he workith like hell while he waitith ! |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 11:04 am | 31st Post |
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Sooo many of these threads! Tim
____________________ **** Proud new father of a 91 1500 Aspencade **** 1) Experience is something you don't get until after you need it. 2) A closed mouth gathers no foot. 3) You aren't learning much when your lips are moving. 4) IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT, WHEN WILL YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT OVER?? |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 11:12 am | 32nd Post |
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I too switched to Amsoil. 10w40 motorcycle oil. I also add 10% Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer. No oil related or clutch problems.
____________________ Viet Nam Vet Jan-Sept 70 USN MCB10. V.F.W. Post 1946 Life Member A.M.A. Member #1101966 NFD IAFF Local 1219 Retired. Elks Lodge #967 Bike History: 68 Triumph 250 Single, 1970 Honda CB450, 70 Moto Guzzi 700, 73 Honda CB750K, 74 Honda Shadow 750, 19 Yrs. of Abstinance, 1983 Honda GL1100I. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 11:22 am | 33rd Post |
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Synthetic or regular oil....What type of oil should I get motorcycle oil (with special or special stuff in it , such as low friction. I know diffent kinds of oil will damage the clutch.
____________________ Chineese proverb "A wise man (or woman) learns from his (or her) mistakes, while a wiser man (or woman) learns from the mistakes of others". I want to be the wiserman 1984 GW 1200 Apencade, 86,000 miles, new project (bike has been sitting for 2 years) 1984 GW 1200 Aspencade, 151,000 miles, insurance totalled it and bought it. 1993 Honda 750cc Nighthawk, sat for 5 years in Fl sun. Put 20,000 last year on it. Still restoring it. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 02:05 pm | 34th Post |
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Dusty Not sure why you say the Rotella was the worst, I have sent samples to the lab for analyzing after 10,000 kms and there was virtually no break down of the oil. In fact according to the lab, it still exceeded JASO MA specs. To each their own. Just about everyone I talked with that has started using it comments on smoother shifting after switching from GN4. I will continue to run it. I buy mine at Bluewave for $31.55 tax included for 5L.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 02:43 pm | 35th Post |
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I switched to it from the Honda GN4 as well. While it (T6) initially provided slicker shifting and a quieter engine compared to the Honda GN4, by the time I got to 2,500km/1,500mi, the shifting became notchy, with missed shifts and the engine became very noisy. This was under touring conditions, where there is less stress placed on the oil. By the time I arrived at Tom's Fork Ranch in Calhoun, GA., some 4,400km/2,700mi later, it was getting worse, so I asked Tom if I could change out my oil in one of his drive sheds. It ran out like water, was black as coal and 'stunk'. That was when I 1st tried the Chevron Dello 400. Been with it ever since, as it provides the slicker shifting, quieter engine, the viscosity holds up exceedingly well and still has a brown tinge to it when I normally change it out at my regular 7,500km/4,600mi maintenance schedule.
____________________ Ken - 1992 GL1500 Aspencade - Dorksider # 2 6th Officer/Road Captain - CMC, 034 Cannington Chapter Find your Path and share the Journey! "It's never too early to plan and never too late to go!" - Dusty Boots Hmm ..... wonder where that stretch of blacktop leads to ...... What has Dusty been up to Prevent/Repair those cracked 1500 trunk lids by installing a set of Rudy's Lid Reinforcement Panels to the underside of your trunk lid. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 4th, 2012 02:46 pm | 36th Post |
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Hell low I sure did not expect to get so much an emotional debate. The engine beeing the heart of the GW requires good care and members of this forum are very loyal to this hear, to the point of beeing emotional about taking the best care there is for there Baby. I sure got o lot of information and mainly oppinions that are very valuable I will look into the purchase of my oil with a different knowledge and will try and make test my self just to see the difference. beeing in quebec canada i do not have acces to delo 400 therefore i have to start with other porduct and wait till May when i will X the border and get delo 400 Thanks to all I will keep this thread update with my own experience thue the summer. Last edited on Sat Feb 4th, 2012 02:55 pm by dj norm ____________________ Norm. 1985 GL 1200 LTD 2001-2012 (Great Machine) 1997 GL 1500 SE 2012-NOW Arte et marte. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 5th, 2012 02:29 am | 37th Post |
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Time for a couple of guys to chill out and check the attitude at the door
____________________ USAF, MSgt. Retired Wild Rhino in training Patriot Guard Dark Side #1019 N0PCT Used to Fly Airplanes for fun Used to Scuba Dive for fun Now I ride the most awsome motorcycle on the face of the planet. There is alot of other stuff that could go here. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 5th, 2012 03:36 am | 38th Post |
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Now about that oil... How about Wesson? Sorry- had to. Any oil that meets at LEAST the minimum set by Honda, changed at LEAST as often as recommended, will much more than likely work fine and provide a very long life. Everyone has favorites for a variety of reasons - just change it often and use *good* oil.
____________________ Vote one for year-round riding! Finally a double darksider... And I like it. Previous wings: 88k mile '78GL1000, 13k mile '77 GL1000 (resto at home, neat story!), '81 GL1100 Interstate. Previous non-wing others: CB360T, GS550L, 650 spcl (first bike!), Silverwing 500, Spectre 1100, VFR700F, CB900 Custom. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12th, 2012 07:36 am | 39th Post |
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____________________ 89 blue green wing Previous bikes: 87 interstate shadow spirit 1100 st1100 magna 700 vulcan 1500 cb900 custom cb360 |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12th, 2012 09:48 am | 40th Post |
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i just stripped all of the emotional posts, sorry fellas.
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