| Oil, synthetic or non-synthetic for 1500 | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 2nd, 2012 12:50 am | 1st Post |
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Hellow All I have tryed to find a thread that discuss the type and grade of oil most of you guys are using with the best results for canada driving ....... regular oil, OEM oil, synthetic oil, engine and clutch wear...... soooo much and confused I have a 1997 SE 82 000 km that has been on synthetic by PO ... is it going to dammage if i bring it back on OEM oil or other is there going to be any reaction with seals, clutch ect. or should i leave it on synth.?????? I sure wanado it right thing and i would hate to see bleu smoke out of the exhaust because i done wrong. PS my LTD had to be on OEM otherwise the clutch would slip is it the same with 1500?????
____________________ Norm. 1985 GL 1200 LTD 2001-2012 (Great Machine) 1997 GL 1500 SE 2012-NOW Arte et marte. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 2nd, 2012 12:55 am | 2nd Post |
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You will get A LOT of responses- many previous threads have discussed this. I have used both. I used to use synthetic but now go the Delo type route.
____________________ Vote one for year-round riding! Finally a double darksider... And I like it. Previous wings: 88k mile '78GL1000, 13k mile '77 GL1000 (resto at home, neat story!), '81 GL1100 Interstate. Previous non-wing others: CB360T, GS550L, 650 spcl (first bike!), Silverwing 500, Spectre 1100, VFR700F, CB900 Custom. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 2nd, 2012 01:08 am | 3rd Post |
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The switch form 1 to the other will not hurt it. Which you use depends on you. If you ride short trips or mostly around town I believe you are better off with conventional oil since either would need frequent changes because of contamination. If you ride generally longer than an hour of so between stops and never let it really cool off all day then you can go longer between changes with synthetic. I doubt either will make much difference in longevity. Honda branded oil is no better or worse than any other oil in the proper type. We use Honda branded oil in the cars but it is just Mobil oil, no different than what you buy anywhere.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 2nd, 2012 01:36 am | 4th Post |
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At present, Wal-Mart oil is packaged by Valvoline - so I was told by their tech a couple weeks ago. Any fresh oil is better than too old of oil. Going back and forth, synthetic to non, viscosity changes, will do no harm whatsoever. The motor has no brain and will not yell out "Hey stupid! That's 10w-40, not 15w-40"! It just wants good quality, not friction modified (no energy conserving type) oil.
____________________ Vote one for year-round riding! Finally a double darksider... And I like it. Previous wings: 88k mile '78GL1000, 13k mile '77 GL1000 (resto at home, neat story!), '81 GL1100 Interstate. Previous non-wing others: CB360T, GS550L, 650 spcl (first bike!), Silverwing 500, Spectre 1100, VFR700F, CB900 Custom. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 2nd, 2012 01:36 am | 5th Post |
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I switched from synthetic to Delo 400. I really like the Delo, my Wing seems to shift much better.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 2nd, 2012 01:57 am | 6th Post |
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My main concern is about the clutch and searching more and more with the help of this great forum i found out that the JASO MA is the important point to look on the can. JASO certification standards. The MA standard is for high friction motorcycle applications, and oil is specifically tailored for use in a Bike or with wet chutch. synth or standard I spent couple of hours on this forum and leard a lot ...cool
____________________ Norm. 1985 GL 1200 LTD 2001-2012 (Great Machine) 1997 GL 1500 SE 2012-NOW Arte et marte. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 04:01 am | 7th Post |
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Last couple of years I've been using the synthetic house brand from NAPA (also made by Valvoline) and I like it a lot. No clutch slippage in either my 1500 or in my vintage SOHC 550. Costs barely more than conventional name brand oils. It's 15W-50, and I really like the extended viscosity to protect the engine parts on those really hot Summer days.
____________________ John Morizi Rancho Santa Fe, CA Riding Hondas since 1966 |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 04:05 am | 8th Post |
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Just plain ole DELO400
____________________ Stu John 14:6 CMA Wings of Eagles-Escondido CA SAN DIEGO Patriot Guard Ryder 1999 GL1500 SE(@57k) The LORD provided this through a friend's wish to leave it to me I'm blown away! Dan beat me there and is enjoying the real Heaven. Remember to be there for your friends and thank them for being your friend. Previous bikes 1983 ASPENCADE(Barn find) bought 7/08 & restored from 13 yr neglect by po @ 35,595mi, now given to a pastor to enjoy the blessings @ 62,000 25 Yrs. of Abstinance(no bike) - Raising kids, now a PA PA 76 CB750K(new) w/Golden Lab Cody, rode w/me 35k miles & 5 times X country in 3 yrs sold @ 45k 75 CB750K(new) 9,000 mi http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/MC-Dispatch/Royce-Thiessen-Honda-CB750.aspx 74 CB450(new) 9,000 mi first yrhttp://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cb_450_disc_1974.php |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 04:20 am | 9th Post |
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Mobile 1, or Castrol with ALL the right letters on the back of the can. Always synthetic. The savings you make by going to Wallyworld is not something I would volunteer to do for my engine, but the choice is yours.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 05:20 am | 10th Post |
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I used to use whatever was on the shelf in the garage until it all was used up. Then I started buying Delo 400 15w40
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 08:35 am | 11th Post |
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Delo 400LE 15w40 here.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 09:25 am | 12th Post |
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dj norm wrote: My main concern is about the clutch and searching more and more with the help of this great forum i found out that the JASO MA is the important point to look on the can. This is what I use in my 1997. http://www-static.shell.com/static/can-en/downloads/products_services/lubricants/rotella/rotella_t6.pdf If you look to the right side of this page you will see that Rotella 5w-40 is JASO certified. Rotella is a synthetic diesel motor oil readily available at Wal-Mart & any automotive store. And the 5w-40 weight will be an advantage in your cooler Canandian weather. Just my $00.02 USD that is....-Rich
____________________ Everybody going faster than me is a "Maniac". Everybody going slower than me is a "Idiot". Don't they know I'M going the right speed..... |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 11:19 am | 13th Post |
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As they said many opnions. Any oil is good so long as it meets the minimum spec for your bike. Personnally I have run Shell Rotella T6 in all my wings, Rotella is the only oil in my 03 since new and currently at 175,000 kms. Change every 10,000 kms. Last edited on Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 11:19 am by Cal-D ____________________ "Have Wing Will Travel" |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 01:02 pm | 14th Post |
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Price wise the Honda Oil is way to expexsive for what you get. Thanks to this site I use the DELO 400 from Wal-mart. And the Supertech oil filter from the same place but I'm not sure of the availability of either in Canada. Since I went to the DELO 400 my bike has gotten quieter and shifts easier. One of my friends drives a new 2010 GL1800 I turned him onto the Delo 400 with the supertech Filter. He says he won't put anything else in his bike he loves it but it is up to you what makes your bike work best all we can do is recommend what we use...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 01:09 pm | 15th Post |
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WOW An other problem or question solved. Thx to all and specialy redeye1620 and Cal-d who have directed me on a product, i will try for sure. I looked on the link and it has all i need. I checked with Walmart in my area and ROTELLA T6 Is available in 5w40 under $38.00 (5L.) Oups sorry purplepirate look like we where typing at the same time and you have posted juste before me  I will chek this about DELO and this filter thing to in my area thanks.Thanks again. Last edited on Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 01:13 pm by dj norm ____________________ Norm. 1985 GL 1200 LTD 2001-2012 (Great Machine) 1997 GL 1500 SE 2012-NOW Arte et marte. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 01:10 pm | 16th Post |
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This symbol which says Energy Conserving is what you do not want on any bottle/jug of oil for your bike. Everyone has their own preference of oil. Some say synthetic and some say conventional. Some will discourage the use of different types of oils, without ever having even given them a try.  Myself, after using different brands/types of oil, I've been using Chevron Delo LE 400 15W-40 oil since Sept 26/08, while I was down in Calhoun, GA. attending the 1st NASSIR Rally. At the time, after reading about it here, I was running some Shell Rotella T6 5W-40 Synthetic oil in the blue jug and that was the worst oil I have ever run in a motorcycle. PERIOD!!! - I could not get that oil out of my bike fast enough!  The Chevron Delo LE 15W-40 is extremely difficult to find in Eastern Canada, so I make it a point to pick some up whenever I visit a Walmart in the US ( ~ $12.99 1 gal jug) and if I have room for it, I'll bring back 4 x 1 gallon jugs of it back with me Currently, I have 12 jugs sitting out in my garage. Seeing as my riding typically involves quite a few long tours, (my last one this summer was 3+ months and over 34,000km/21,000mi) I'll run my oil for longer than most and change it either when I get back, or when stopping over at a friends house, en route. I have put on over 22,000km/14,000mi on one change and my buddy who was present when I dumped the oil out of the bike, could not believe the colour and viscosity the oil exhibited. Even though it's a hassle for me to obtain it, I believe in this oil so strongly that I will make a run across the border to get it .... that's how strongly I believe in this oil.  If I could not get my Delo (and I hope that never happens  ) ........  ....... I think I would maybe give the Shell Rotella T 15W-40 in the white jug a try and see how that goes.  Respectfully, Dusty
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 01:30 pm | 17th Post |
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wow Dusty you got some serious reflection going on in my head now lol i will concider this and do more rechearches  
____________________ Norm. 1985 GL 1200 LTD 2001-2012 (Great Machine) 1997 GL 1500 SE 2012-NOW Arte et marte. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 02:01 pm | 18th Post |
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I too have found that in my bike, the Rotella-T blue jug 5w-40 to be the worst of the worst I've ever used. Starts out slickly, breaks down quickly. My 2 cents is, spend your money as you wish but paying more than you need to for the best is just a waste of money and Delo-400LE is as close to the best as I have ever used, including synthetics.
____________________ Rudy RudysProducts Info: We are back! Production time is currently 1-3 business days for all in-stock items. RudysBackyard.com Info: RudysBackyard.com will cease to exist on 5/30/2012 when the domain name expires. Plastic repairs are almost always unique to the shape, location and problem. If you want useful help deciding on the best approach for a specific repair, please include sharp photos. Without these, it is difficult to advise the best way to make repairs. Dorksider # 1 |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 02:47 pm | 19th Post |
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Rudy wrote: I too have found that in my bike, the Rotella-T blue jug 5w-40 to be the worst of the worst I've ever used. Delo-400 is Jasco certified too, just not a synthetic & at 15w-40 weight, might be a bit thick upon start up on those cold Canandian mornings. http://www.dooilco.com/pdf/Motor%20Oils/Chevron%20Delo%20400/Delo%20400%2015w-40.pdf P.S. The Wal-Mart oil filter is Super Tech #7317. Last edited on Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 02:49 pm by Redeye1620 ____________________ Everybody going faster than me is a "Maniac". Everybody going slower than me is a "Idiot". Don't they know I'M going the right speed..... |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 02:52 pm | 20th Post |
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Redeye1620 wrote: Delo-400 is Jasco certified too, just not a synthetic & at 15w-40 weight, might be a bit thick upon start up on those cold Canandian mornings. Dusty is a Canadian with Delo and he has no problems with the cold side with it. I use the Super Tech ST6607 filter.
____________________ Rudy RudysProducts Info: We are back! Production time is currently 1-3 business days for all in-stock items. RudysBackyard.com Info: RudysBackyard.com will cease to exist on 5/30/2012 when the domain name expires. Plastic repairs are almost always unique to the shape, location and problem. If you want useful help deciding on the best approach for a specific repair, please include sharp photos. Without these, it is difficult to advise the best way to make repairs. Dorksider # 1 |
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