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| Posted: Tue Feb 7th, 2012 12:40 am | 21st Post |
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sure u can use slime but you better dismount your tire as soon as you get home and clean it out just get a plug kit from wally world goes alot further
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| Posted: Tue Feb 7th, 2012 04:53 am | 22nd Post |
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another very good point to make here is.. NEVER PLUG A MOTORCYLE TIRE ever.! it's best to swallow hard, grab your wallet, and replace the tire... a puntured motorcyle tire is never going to be as SAFE as a tire that has no puncture period !.. There are very good reason that tire shops REFUSE to plug a motorcycle tire... it can have a boot patch repair from the inside of the tire itself... But is it worth it knowing the tire is no longer as safe as it once was.? i'm not a fan of tire sealants. of any kind. Don't play around with your own safety.. Replace the tire.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 7th, 2012 01:02 pm | 23rd Post |
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Couldn't disagree with Guardian more. Sure rope plugs can fail, especially when installed incorrectly, but mushroom plugs, or better yet and inside-out patch plug combo will never fail so long as it is not on the sidewalls.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 10:03 pm | 24th Post |
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I was once in charge of a factory manufacturing a tyre sealant, believe it or not. You would not believe the conglomeration of chemicals that go to make up a sealant! Most of these sealants use particles, usually rubber, suspended in this mixture. When the tyre punctures, the liquid is forced into the hole or around the intruding object and the particles jam up, like a log jam in a river, and dry out to form a seal. That's the theory! Since the sealant is water based (you will see that they all 'wash out with water') that theory doesn't hold up if you are riding continually in rain. (Why do most puncture happen when it's raining? Well, try cutting an old tyre dry, then wet it and try again! See what I mean!) Next. Put some of the sealant in a clear bottle and tape the bottle to the inside of a spin drier. Do a short spin and remove the bottle. You will notice that all the solids have centrifuged out! Just as they would in a tyre rotating at speed. Since you tyre is not flat like a car tyre but curved, you will find that all the solids are concentrated in a small band across the centre of the tyre. Very helpful if your puncture is a bit to the side! Last. Tyres are porous. That is why they loose air, albeit very slowly. But that very porosity allows water vapour (water based sealant remember) to permeate into the carcass of the tyre, rotting the plies as well as the rim as you have seen. I left that job once I realised all these things. Basically I could not be a party to something that not what it was purported to be. I do not use sealants in my tyres! 
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| Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 11:08 am | 25th Post |
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NO Dont ever use it. I bought a used motorcycle gl1500 and the front tire leaked around the bead,when i took it off the rim was coated with green [ tire slime] Had to replace the rim.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 01:09 pm | 26th Post |
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Old Fogey wrote: I was once in charge of a factory manufacturing a tyre sealant, believe it or not. I will not elaborate on why but, I totally disagree with the above stated theory's! While I certainly would not use Slime, I would and do use RideOn. OK, one comment-I have yet to find any water that has intruded into my tires through the rubber molecules 
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| Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 02:21 pm | 27th Post |
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tfdeputydawg wrote: Old Fogey wrote:I was once in charge of a factory manufacturing a tyre sealant, believe it or not. So pleased to be able to provide amusement for someone! I have no wish to, and will not, get into an argument over this but I stand by everything I say. Anyone who knows me will tell you that I do not make statements for the sake of it. Disagree all you like. Do you really think that we didn't do continued and extensive testing ? When you have cut open as many tyres as I have, from garden wheelbarrows through cars and bikes, to huge eathmover types, and seen the rot in the steel plies for yourself, you WOULD change your mind. Is rubber permeable? Of course it is. Here is a quote from Popular Mechanics Q: Is there any advantage to using nitrogen instead of compressed air in tires? Will I notice improved fuel economy or a smoother ride? Will my tires last longer? A: Sort of. From the top: Air is 78 percent nitrogen, just under 21 percent oxygen, and the rest is water vapor, CO2 and small concentrations of noble gases such as neon and argon. We can ignore the other gases. There are several compelling reasons to use pure nitrogen in tires. First is that nitrogen is less likely to migrate through tire rubber than is oxygen, which means that your tire pressures will remain more stable over the long term. Racers figured out pretty quickly that tires filled with nitrogen rather than air also exhibit less pressure change with temperature swings. That means more consistent inflation pressures during a race as the tires heat up. And when you're tweaking a race car's handling with half-psi changes, that's important. Passenger cars can also benefit from the more stable pressures. But there's more: Humidity (water) is a Bad Thing to have inside a tire. Water, present as a vapor or even as a liquid in a tire, causes more of a pressure change with temperature swings than dry air does. It also promotes corrosion of the steel or aluminum rim. ..............................................- However I will add this modification. I can only really speak of our own water-based product. We did testing on competitors products too, as is normal, but the particular product that you endorse was (as far as I am aware) not available here then. And admittedly this was some years ago, I left in 1999. That company folded the following year. Technology may well have moved on from then. End of my involvement in this thread.
____________________ 1976 GL1000 'The Swan' - from an ugly ducking.. 1979 GL1000 'Black Bess'- original. wingformation on http://www.wingovations.com |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 09:50 pm | 28th Post |
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I've had RideOn in the tires from new. Coming up in May to change them. Will post photos. I had a puncture on the rear tire which sealed. To me, it also seems to balance the wheels. BTW you can get water into your tires using some gas station air pumps (especially the free ones). Ask me how I know!
____________________ Tim "If you want to make an apple pie from scratch you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan |
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