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 Posted: Tue Oct 11th, 2005 08:15 pm321st Post
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Well done Gambler, watching your progress was a good learning experience for me and I'm sure for many other visitors here. :clapper:



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 Posted: Tue Oct 11th, 2005 08:24 pm322nd Post
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Great achievement Gambler. It would be good if this thread could be made sticky or converted to a tutorial for the site so that other Wing owners can learn from it. :clapper: :cheeky1:



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 Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2005 01:17 am323rd Post
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thanks again guys.



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 Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2005 01:51 am324th Post
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Marky wrote: ....... It would be good if this thread could be made sticky or converted to a tutorial for the site so that other Wing owners can learn from it.

 

And to be inspired. :weightlifter:



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 Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2005 04:16 am325th Post
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 I think Steve said he was going to do just that ,when Gambler was totally finished. LOLOLOL... are you done,Gambler ?? SilverDave 



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 Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2005 06:11 am326th Post
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just about, I think I will tear down the shocks as soon as I find out how much fluid they should hold. It appears they have been gone through before, and they do have springs in them.



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 Posted: Sat Oct 15th, 2005 07:43 pm327th Post
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This was a great article Gambler. Well done and thanks for sharing it with the Goldwing world.



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 Posted: Sat Oct 15th, 2005 08:10 pm328th Post
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Jason wrote: This was a great article Gambler. Well done and thanks for sharing it with the Goldwing world.thank you.



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 Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 02:08 am329th Post
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Gambler wrote: Goldwinger1984 wrote: It's amazing that second gear broke.  Never seen that before.  Any idea of how it was done?

Vic
no idea, but the bike was from San Francisco, steep hills+heavy bike and kamikaze drivers=might need to make fast getaways.:?
I find it kinda cool but the newspaper is also featuring HONDA items. A whole car.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 02:25 am330th Post
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Gambler wrote: thanks guys. I took more photos, and may upload some in the future if they look like they might help someone.
GAMBLER>..kudos to you...APPLAUSE...PRAISE>..Large amount of handshaking would be in order if you lived closer.

I am amazed at the detail, the patience, and the ability to re-use parts when possible.  Too many times with these no budget type shows, they throw away everything and never tell you what they spent.

Did you chronicle your actual amount of expenses in this project and what was the whole process from start to finish?

Any plans on taking apart a 1500 just for the pictures for the rest of us(lol).

Good job, and a pleasure to have viewed your progress.

Having owned two different 1200s about 20 years ago, it is proof that the 1200 was meant to stay a long time.~

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 Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 02:38 am331st Post
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Gambler wrote: Goldwinger1984 wrote:
I wonder if you could get a little clearer pic of the differences in the gears in that last shot?  The lighting and the newspaper make it hard to distinguish the differences.

Vic

Vic, I took some more pics, looks like you can use the 2nd, 3rd,5th from the 86 countershaft in the 87. however, I need the 4th gear which has the dogs on it for 3rd, which on my 4th are worn. the countershafts have a big difference, on the 87 the bearing on the inside bolts to the end of the shaft, on the 86 it sits in the case and the shaft slides into it.

Hard to believe that until you really look that deep within the 1200, that HONDA would have made the 87(the last year) different than the 84-86 models when the 88 1500 was on its way to  replace it.

I have seen many 79-82 CBX's torn apart and it amazed me at how much I learned over the 12 years of being in that club and talking with techs at our winter get togethers with parts all over the place of people doing rebuilds.

Thanks for the pics and the explanation.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 06:32 am332nd Post
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thanks again, I do know how much I spent. I use quicken and have a catagory just for each of my projects. I have been trying to write up a post showing the time and money spent but haven't finished it yet, mainly because I don't have enough miles on the bike to see if it is good enough for long trips. I stil have some work to do, and will be adding to this thread in the next couple of weeks.

I have been looking at 1500's because I think they are great LD bikes and I like the looks. But it's much harder to find one in my price range.



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 Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 01:50 pm333rd Post
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Gambler wrote: (snipped)

I have been looking at 1500's because I think they are great LD bikes and I like the looks. But it's much harder to find one in my price range.

Mine really aint in my price range.  I went and became a co owner with PeopleFirst with their 7.9 rate and 5 yr low low monthly payments;>

I havent had a payment on a car or bike for 25 years but decided to break my own rules.  In hindsight, I think I could have been happy with a 85-86 LTD or SEi.

Someday I might sell this 1500 and go backwards in time and move UP to a 1200

Really enjoyed your pics and the cost isnt important when it comes to all the labor and love you put into this.

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Gambler wrote: I have been looking at 1500's because I think they are great LD bikes and I like the looks. But it's much harder to find one in my price range.

That was my problem too, finding one in my price range. I was able to make a little money on my SEI when I sold it, when I bought it, it ran but hardly any of the electronic stuff worked and it was cosmetically challenged, so I got it pretty cheap. By the time I bought my 1500 I knew more about what I wanted. I found a really nice looking one, it had fairly high mileage which brought the price down. I bought it figuring that it was easier and cheaper to replace or rebuild an engine if necessary than paint and plastic repair. The bike also had a bunch of accessories I didn't want which brought the cost down another $600 after I sold that stuff on eBay.

I was real lucky, mechanically the bike's proven to be in great shape, uses no oil and runs like new. I believe this is the way to go for those of us who can handle the mechanical work, find a nice high mileage bike that's been well cared for, the mileage seems to scare people off, but it's really the exterior condition of the bike that's most critical.



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 Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 08:53 pm335th Post
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exavid wrote:
I was real lucky, mechanically the bike's proven to be in great shape, uses no oil and runs like new. I believe this is the way to go for those of us who can handle the mechanical work, find a nice high mileage bike that's been well cared for, the mileage seems to scare people off, but it's really the exterior condition of the bike that's most critical.


I have seen some Gl1500s go for almost what some people have paid for their used 1200s. The hardest decison about buying a used Wing is there are so many of them out there that need a lot more miles and you are in the best of times from the 1200-1500-1800 to choose from.

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Amazing, you have documented so much for rookies as well as us oldtimers(45). I was once resigned to rebuilding  Mack Trucks for a living from chassis bending, to total rewiring , and 3 angle valve grinding,,,etc.  that,  was 22 years ago. You have inspired me to take my 84 GL1200 totally apart, and include my children in it. Wow hang onto that better half that tapes your wheels. 

 

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homesbyfred wrote: Amazing, you have documented so much for rookies as well as us oldtimers(45). I was once resigned to rebuilding  Mack Trucks for a living from chassis bending, to total rewiring , and 3 angle valve grinding,,,etc.  that,  was 22 years ago. You have inspired me to take my 84 GL1200 totally apart, and include my children in it. Wow hang onto that better half that tapes your wheels.   
Old timer? 45? On this forum that isn't an oldtimer my friend, you're just a kid. I don't think you should put your children in your 1200, they run better without, gotta plenty of gear whine already.



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You are correct, for the most part 45 is young when it comes to this forumn,,,I look at a bit different because I was doing valve jobs at 14 and classified as the youngest diesel mechanic in the state at the time. you guys are f---ing amazing I am in total amazement, because of you I will relive my youth and so will my son,

 

 


 



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homesbyfred wrote: Amazing, you have documented so much for rookies as well as us oldtimers(45). I was once resigned to rebuilding  Mack Trucks for a living from chassis bending, to total rewiring , and 3 angle valve grinding,,,etc.  that,  was 22 years ago. You have inspired me to take my 84 GL1200 totally apart, and include my children in it. Wow hang onto that better half that tapes your wheels. 

 

shes pretty cool. and has the patience to tape intricate parts.:shock: good luck and share some pics with us.:D

am I an old timer at 44?:(;)



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