| what's an inexpensive way to slap on new paint? | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 06:11 pm | 1st Post |
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when i bought my '82 GL1100, it was half way thru a new paint prep. so i have to finish sanding and give her a new color. what kind of equipment should i invest in? what kind of paint should i buy? she's all plastic--no vinyl. any recommendations would be much appreciated. i was considering using Kevlar's aerosol can spray paint--they have some for plastic that is supposed to do a great job. but my gut says that's a rookie bad idea. thanks so much.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 06:50 pm | 2nd Post |
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i would go to a part store that sells auto paint. do you have a compressor, maybe you can rent the painting equipment. before i used spray cans i would check that. you want your hard work to pay off.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 09:18 pm | 3rd Post |
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By the way, welcome to the best site in the world that is coverd by the world. good luck on the paint. it will be red, right.  
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 10:36 pm | 4th Post |
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It really depends on what expectations you have for the final finish. What you consider ready for paint may be viewed a bit differently by a painter... My suggestion...check around you local auto dealers. they will often have an outfit to handle their "light" paint and body work, leaving the big jobs for a full body shop. This is what I do. They will be used to painting on plastics. Bring an example of your prepped work, see if it fits their definition of "ready". Contract the work to them, and pick your color! Assuming your prep is right, you could get away for $200-maybe-$300 Modern base/clearcoat is not exactly newbie friendly...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 11:31 pm | 5th Post |
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heya Amp, came across this "how to paint a tank" page the other day: http://www.thegsresources.com/garage/gs_repaint.htm Hope it helps.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 12:01 am | 6th Post |
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Some of the guys on here have did the rattle cans and some have had passable results. It depends on what your expectations are. If you prep the surface really well a good grade of fresh paint from a spray can looks very good. That is if you have the stroke and overspray under control. $20 verses $500+. You need to practice some before you dive in. I would suggest you buy some cheap rattle cans and try your hand at it first. Get some big coffe cans, a milk jug, a couple of bottles of different shapes and try your hand at it. If the cans and bottles turn out ok you are on you way. Spray the motorcycle with out pratice and @#$%@#$%! Keno
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 12:15 am | 7th Post |
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Another way to get a decent paint job for cheap is to check with your local community college.. Several of ours have auto body classes and students need stuff to paint. The colleges usually have very decent equiptment and a good paint booth, If nothing else, they have better gear and area to work than the average guy. Usually the only costs to you would be the paint itself. Students painting is good for them in that they can learn how to fix common painting problems, and get some practice.. Its good for you because its cheap, and they can probably do a much better job on the prep (which is really ALL the work  ) and shooting paint than any do it your selfer with a spray can. I would never ever try to paint anything I cared about with a spray can. and if you care what it looks like, neither should you. Think of it this way, no matter how bad the job is that the students do, it will be much better than anything you'll ever get with some krylon If you cant get worked in at the local college, goto the local paint supply house and ask who does pretty good for pretty cheap... they should steer you in the right direction. Let us know how it turns out.. LP 
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 01:57 am | 8th Post |
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I did some painting on my 81 1100 experimental/project/ so what bike with Valspar plastic paint from Lowes and it came out pretty slick except a spot where there was something on it that caused it to fish eye. A can of dupli-color adhesion promoter from O'reilly seemed to cure the fish eye problem.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 02:41 am | 9th Post |
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 Hi 've been a finisher for 30 of my years! I got into it when I was a fireman.(havn't blown up anything yet!) I can give you any help you need, and I'd even do it for ya if you lived close, you'd buy the materials and pizza! If I could be of the most help, I would be honest and tell you that, a small shop is SO much easier for you, and I promise, cheaper in the long run. As posted earlier, it depends on what you want. Some don't care that much about the finish quality. The SHEEN is the one thing that lacks in a "rattle can" job.A good spray person can lay the paint on to the point of almost sagging, but know when to stop,before it happens. Paint has to be kept wet between the passes with the spraygun, to keep from getting dry steaks. (what spraycans do). The rattlecan has too narrow spraypattern. A great way to save money, is in the TYPE of paint you get. In my day, the best was "FLEET" enamel. It is used for trucks,rental equipment,and vehicles. It is way cheaper,hard as a rock,forgiving of goofs,and comes in a gagillion colors.U Haul was where I started using them in Phoenix.(Ihate orange to this day!).Easily can be buffed for a killer shine, and some of the nicer materials have a "Hardener" additive to add to the hardness and shine.I worked for Mako autopainting, and "Nasco" is the brand they used. Good stuff. Anyway, if I can be of ANY help, as you can probly tell, love helping out.Don't mean to sound like a know it all, I'm just eager!!!! Good Luck, Jim
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 06:12 am | 10th Post |
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Dang jimsjinx awful nice offer there. Wish i lived closer to you myself!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 02:08 pm | 11th Post |
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 Feel free to PM me if you need my phone number. I can sorta walk ya through it if that helps. You CAN do it yourself, but someone to advise is always a good thing!! Just curious, what color do you want? Solid colors are easy, metallics are a little more fussy, and candy colors are the most difficult. Nice thing about solid colors, is you can touch em up perfectly. Well keep us posted! Jim
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 02:16 pm | 12th Post |
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If you decide to paint with spray cans use paint made for plastic bumpers It is flexible when dry and will not chip or crack when you remove covers-unlike some of the eurathene paints that are hard and brittle
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 02:57 pm | 13th Post |
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Well...I painted my wing with rattle cans. And I don't think it turned out all that bad. I only spent aout two ours on it start to finish because i Had a ride planned for the follwing day. I had one day to pull it apart, prep it paint it let dry, clear coat it let that dry and put it all back together. It easy to see its a rattle can job. But it's a tri-toned paint job with pinstriping(all be it stick on pinstriping). Some fols on the forum have seen it. Everyone says it looks pretty good for a ratttle can spray. I was going to repaint it again this year, but I don't think I'm going to. next year for sure though. 
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 06:14 pm | 14th Post |
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you can use spray can paint if you spray like a robot, not splotchy spots etc....but the buffing is the key to get a showroom look......wait an hour or two to dry...but weather temp is important here for drying time...then buff with a buffer......while the paint is still slightly pliable....if you got lots a patience it could turn out perfect. .....brokewinger...good lookin 11!! Last edited on Sat Mar 1st, 2008 06:16 pm by grambo ____________________ 91 GL1500 91 Electraglide A prior Buffet of GL l000's,1100s',1200s' had Some nice old 650 trumpets...(fun!!) many dirt and streets..cant remember!! Ask the wrench god 1st!! |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 08:58 pm | 15th Post |
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Hey Broke..... Dude! I meant I hated U HAUL orange!!! I figured I better clarify that, after seein those guns!!! I also can rattle em, but it does take an eye. Nice job, now don't hurt me!!LOL Jim
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 10:49 pm | 16th Post |
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Liquid Plumber got me thinking. An old girlfriend of mine works at a high school that does auto work and she said the teacher does some painting on the side. (The kids aren't painting right now for some reason or other) She's going to see how much he'd charge if I brought in the pieces all sanded and ready for paint. I'm thinking that might be my best route. If that doesn't pan out then I'll try my hand with the rattle cans.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 11:36 pm | 17th Post |
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Amp, I remember back in the mid 80's Chaparrel and Vo-Tech both had auto shops. I think that I remember Vo-Tech did have a body and paint class when I went there. My kids still live in Las Vegas with thier mom and are both in high school. I will try to remember to ask them if they know what schools still have that class. I am wanting to paint mine a deep purple, I will have to check the schools out where I live now and see if any of them do this. If not I will be driving to Vegas and having my step father paint it for me. Dave
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| Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 02:31 am | 18th Post |
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There is NO way I would consider using a spray can!!! Paint is expensive, but if one is truly persistent in using a spray can, then GO to a true automotive paint store such as PPG or NAPA (Martin Senior) and get a "single stage" acrylic enamel mixed and put in their spray cans. May cost $12 - $18 a can, but it is acrylic enamel, high gloss, wears decent, lasts for years, and you get to pick your color. PPG would be the only "local" paint supplier that can color match MC paint codes beside Color-Rite (mail-order). Others can match with a color optical computer reader or you can pick your favorite year car color. And, it will not look like it was painted with a spray can unless you are a really bad painter. My recommendation: DITY and learn to paint with a spray gun. It will definitely cost a lot more, but consider it a learning experience, otherwise you never will. Borrow a compressor and cheap automotive paint gun, and go talk to the guy at the automotive paint store. I have never met one that would not spill out his guts in trying to help you through paint issues. Just talk to them and buy later.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 05:41 am | 19th Post |
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Anyone tried the pearl paint colors mixed into spray cans? I have some sun damage from the previous owner on the saddlebag and lid. The last quote I got was around the $3,000 range.... a little out of my price range. (84 Interstate)
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| Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 12:28 pm | 20th Post |
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jimvw57 wrote: That should not be a problem, I think. But they do not do metal flake. However, many of the MC Goldwing OEM paint such as pearls and candy color are really two and three stage paints. So, really they can not be matched by a single stage spray can. I would check with PPG for code and/or take in a side panel to optically color match (computer) to an automotive paint store. Try one or two cans of spray enamel. If you do not like the results, well you can always have it repainted. Again, go talk or call you local automotive paint guy. Also, I am not a fan of spray cans. I am a base-coat, clear coat acrylic urethane fan.
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