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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 12:57 am | 1st Post |
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Searched 9 pages of "Yellow Wire" threads! Question, on an 1100 since all 3 wires are yellow (not marked) I guess it doesn't matter which 2 Yellow wires you solder together out of the 6 wires, is this correct?  I've always kept a lot of "Dilectric Grease" on mine so have not had a problem but thinking I should do it?! Thanks!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 01:30 am | 2nd Post |
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You are correct, it does not matter which 2 wires you hook together. Just make sure to shrink wrap them well. Some very thick walled shrink wrap or about 3 layers of regular wall shrink wrap will work nice.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 01:36 am | 3rd Post |
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Necessary on the 1000s as well?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 02:10 am | 4th Post |
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Thanks!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 02:26 am | 5th Post |
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Yes. The same for 1000s and 1200s.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 05:15 am | 6th Post |
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Just make sure you connect three upgoing wires to three downgoing ones! Incestuous interconnecting won't work.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 03:45 pm | 7th Post |
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You know guys I've been giving this a lot of thought lately and I think it DOES matter which wires hook to each other. I think you should mark them and reconnect A to A B to B and C to C follow my maybe misguided logic rotor is turning clockwise(or the other way for you guys that will try to correct me doesn't matter) passes A then B then C so you get "flow" with the following A_B_C or B_C_A or C_B_A BUT if you hook up different B_C_A or C_B_A OR A_C_B it is not in order of rotation ergo not as much O/P Right or wrong I don't know but it seems logical to me We need an electrical engineer to answer this one Neil
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 04:31 pm | 8th Post |
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wingdawg101 wrote: Searched 9 pages of "Yellow Wire" threads! wingdawg101, you are correct, it really doesn't matter what yellow rear wire is hooked to what front wire as long as they are ALL isolated from each other & each wire runs from the stator to the regulator uninterrupted.. That system is 3-Phase A/C so polarity or wire matching isn't important. Once the regulator gets hold of the current it just shoves it through a series of diodes to rectify it & turn it into D/C, at that point it becomes polarity sensitive. To help understand the principal-- (remember electricity & water act a lot alike).. You have 3 garden hoses fed from either one pump with 3 SEPARATE impellers & outputs phased 120° apart, or 3 separate pumps run from the same motor.. Those 3 hoses end up at a combining valve but pass through a one way check valve before doing so.. The combined outputs of those 3 hoses comes out of the end of the combining valve with almost 3 times the flow & the individual pulses are now one smooth flow (it doesn't really matter what hose is connected to what inlet port).. Twisty
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 04:34 pm | 9th Post |
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ccsailor wrote: You know guys I've been giving this a lot of thought lately and I think it DOES matter which wires hook to each other. I think you should mark them and reconnect A to A B to B and C to C Neil, if your logic held correct then you would get a different voltage reading when measuring from A to B than A to C (not so).. Twisty
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 04:47 pm | 10th Post |
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not quite twisty a-c and a- b are the same electrically when measured separately so they will measure the same if working correctly BUT your hose theory holds water  I guess it depends on how many "pulses " are put out and when. which of course depends on how many magnets and spacing are in the rotor
____________________ 08 Navi Rest not! Life is sweeping by; go and dare before you die." - Goethe Wide acceptance of an idea is NOT proof of its validity Dan Brown 2009 Loud Pipes Just cover up poor riding skills!!!!! |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 05:01 pm | 11th Post |
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ccsailor wrote: not quite twisty a-c and a- b are the same electrically when measured separately so they will measure the same if working correctly Neil, if "a-c and a- b are the same electrically when measured separately" that is just how the rectifier would see them.. Actually once the rectifier diodes get the stator A/C current it is pulsed D/C after that.. Twisty
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 07:57 pm | 12th Post |
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Were there any issues with this problem on the 1500 series - specifically the 1989 model wing? Mike
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 08:12 pm | 13th Post |
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Last edited on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 11:39 pm by RedWinger |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 09:31 pm | 14th Post |
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I knew I shoulda got me a 1500. 
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| Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 11:37 pm | 15th Post |
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ccsailor, You threw me a "Curve" Ball ?! But "Twisty" was "Pitch Hitting" for me, ha! Maybe "Candian Electricty is different from US electricty?!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 7th, 2005 12:51 am | 16th Post |
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Nah still not convinced
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| Posted: Wed Sep 7th, 2005 01:37 am | 17th Post |
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CCSailor.... Your logic might just hold... if each of A-B B-C was occuping exactly 1/3 of the winding space... and a single brush was taking off the electricity, at a certain point, as the coil passed that point ... but... I think the brushless effect of a stator... and the repeated winding pattern means that each loop say the pink in the enclosed pic ... is giving out its current at several times in each revolution......... http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?nodeId=02nQXGrrlPglzQMszY now I know this is a three phase motor ... but the electrical effect is the same...... So I gotta disagree with you... and I think that the order of soldering of the three Yellows makes no difference makes absolutely NO difference ... SilverDave Last edited on Wed Sep 7th, 2005 01:40 am by SilverDave ____________________ 1985 Aspy Pinstriped Powder Blue & Matching blue Trailer. "Mathematics is the Music of the Mind" Gray-haired bikers don't get that way from pure luck. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 7th, 2005 01:52 am | 18th Post |
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you seem to be supporting my theory if you look at your link it goes pink blue black and repeats all the way around SO in theory you SHOULD hook up in order right??????????????? then twistys "pulsed"dc prf would be less (which is good) Unless they are interwound with each other in real time like a braided effect??????????? Last edited on Wed Sep 7th, 2005 01:55 am by ccsailor ____________________ 08 Navi Rest not! Life is sweeping by; go and dare before you die." - Goethe Wide acceptance of an idea is NOT proof of its validity Dan Brown 2009 Loud Pipes Just cover up poor riding skills!!!!! |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 7th, 2005 02:12 am | 19th Post |
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Then how come everyone who has randomly wired the yellow wires have had no problems?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 7th, 2005 02:34 am | 20th Post |
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If it did make a differance, then 3 phase motor wiring would have the same problem with phase sync., I would think. Switching two wires on a 3 phase motor only reverses the direction. My vote is: it doesn't matter.
____________________ John 1996 GL1500 SE Past bikes 1985 Aspencade 1200 1978 Honda GL 1000 1974 Honda 350 Four 1974 Yamaha TY 250 Trials 1973 Yamaha 360 RT3 1971 Honda SL 100 1968 Honda Trail 50 3 1/2 HP mini bike |
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