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Beverly
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 09:44 pm | 1st Post |
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Hi Again everyone!
I'm still having trouble with the bike. I replaced the spark plugs, changed the oil and added sea form -ran it for a while and changed the oil again, ran sea foam through one tank of gas, changed the fuel filter, fuel pump and fuel lines, and it seems to be running better with a little more power but nothing near what I think this bike should have.
It really has no get up and go on the highway/interstate. I can get to 70 mph (barely) but I have to down shift to do so. If I hit a little hill where the bike has to climb a slight incline I'll loose speed and have to down shift to 4th or even 3rd sometimes.
I'm trying to figure this out (With all of you guys help) so I can avoid a costly charge at a cycle shop. I don't know anything about the carburators or how to sync them nor do I have the tools, but is that the problem you think? If not could someone who knows these bikes give me an idea of what to check next?
Thanks all!
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William_86
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 09:56 pm | 2nd Post |
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| your bike be running 2 rich or 2 lean, also could be the clutch slipping, carbs could need some cleaning and the fuel filter or fuel pump may be broken. need some details of how she feels when you pull the throttle. how are the rpms and so...
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Beverly
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 10:10 pm | 3rd Post |
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The fuel filter or fuel pump are brand new-just installed Thursday. I can be running about 55 and have the throttle about halfway and if I need to accelerate there's nothing more there when I turn throttle full blast. I loose RPM unless I down shift.
How do I check if it is 2 rich or 2 lean? Is it something I can do without buying a special tool? Shouldn't the sea foam have cleaned the carborators to some extent?
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Armo
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 10:18 pm | 4th Post |
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my 84 interstate will cruise all day at 90.
remove and rebuild the carbs COMPLETLY. including the slow jets.
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Armo
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 10:18 pm | 5th Post |
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my 84 interstate will cruise all day at 90.
remove and rebuild the carbs COMPLETLY. including the slow jets.
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Beverly
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 10:41 pm | 6th Post |
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Since rebuilding the carbs is beyond my skill levels, does anyone know on an average what I should have to pay to have someone do that?
I live in the Bay Area, California, so if anyone near by sees this post, please reply if you know of a good honest affordable goldwing mechanic in the Bay Area (East Bay/SF/marin...South Bay is too far). I'm a struggling artist...Money isn't tight, it's non-existent
Thanks!
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Armo
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 11:13 pm | 7th Post |
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| I have bad news for you, it will cost you more in labor, than its worth,
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Beverly
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 11:17 pm | 8th Post |
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| More than the bikes worth? More an the carborators are worth? More than it's worth to have a good running bike???
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retiredintime
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 11:26 pm | 9th Post |
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Beverly wrote: More than the bikes worth? More an the carborators are worth? More than it's worth to have a good running bike???
There is the problem. If a person isn't mechanically inclined and buys an older bike a quandry occures. If you are unable to do the work yourself then mechanics and shops charge upwards of 100 bucks an hour. When you consider that it takes 6 to 8 hours to do a set of carbs, not counting the parts it adds up real fast....
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Kit Carson
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 11:44 pm | 10th Post |
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I have a suspicion about this.........but could very well be you are running on two cylinders......Kit
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Beverly
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 11:46 pm | 11th Post |
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This is getting away from the subject, but I didn't actually buy the bike. I have roughly $100 invested in in now. I am mechanically inclined to the extent that I can do the basics, change my own oil, plugs, filters, fuel pumps/lines etc. I can listen to others who have more knowledge and learn. I would imagine my knowledge of engines is more extensive than most women.
What I can also do is restore it cosmedically, so until I learn more about working on the engine (And I'm learning more and more everyday) I ask questions.
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Beverly
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 11:49 pm | 12th Post |
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| I was thinking that too, so I pulled the spark plug wires one by one while the engine was running (Got a little shock too!) and could hear the difference in the way it ran. So, I think all 4 are firing.
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Lil Pete
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 11:58 pm | 13th Post |
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Why did you replace the fuel pump and filter. Have you checked the compression yet. Is the bike your only means of transportation?
Can you give a some history on the bike and what you have done to it. The more info the better.
Rebuilding the carbs are NOT beyond you. It is simple and straight forward (dissasemble, clean, replace worn out parts, reassemble). The part where most people make their mistake is that they don't get them clean the first time. You need basic metric tools a clean area to work and some time. Do you have the Honda Shop manual? The parts cost can vary but $100 per carb is where you should be thinking if it has sat for a long time.
I am a couple hours from you but, I don't know of any shops in your area. I prefer to do the work myself.
Last edited on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:10 am by Lil Pete
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JBZ
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 11:59 pm | 14th Post |
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| what ya might do bev is fill the tank with some chevron premium and add a healthy dose of seafoam to it/ half a can and ride it on some flat places on 101 . 3rd or 4th gear whatever you have to do. it might help but sometimes the jets are packed so tight with crud that it takes more than seafoam to clear it. They got to come apart. I imagine your air cleaner has been checked and 4 brand new spark plug installed. You might check the plugs again. did you check the gap on the 4 new plugs. JB Last edited on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:01 am by JBZ
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Beverly
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:13 am | 15th Post |
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The bike sat for at least 6 month without being ran. I got it from a guy who hadn't road in a while due to health reasons. My plan is to use it to commute...It's not my only means of transportation but my car is a gas hog, so I try not to drive it as much as possible.
I replaced the spark plugs, changed the oil and added sea form -ran it for a while and changed the oil again, ran sea foam through one tank of gas, changed the fuel filter, fuel pump and fuel lines.
I'm searching now for all the info I can about rebuilding carborators, so maybe I can learn to jut do that myself. It would be great if someone would shoot a video totorial of them removing and rebuilding their carbs. I've found a few videos of people rebuilding other carbs, so that might help. I'll probably have to buy some more tools tho.
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Armo
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:13 am | 16th Post |
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| Craigslist in Fresno has a 1986 Goldwing asking only $2500.00 77,000 miles.
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Whiskerfish
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:15 am | 17th Post |
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I do not know much about the 1200 ignition system so I can not offer any ideas there. For carbs about the best prices I have seen for anyone that really know what they are doing are the Randakk approved rebuilders. Howard is the 1200 Guru. Look here for more info http://www.randakks.com/Certified%20GL1000%20Carb%20Rebuilders.htm
This would require that you remove the carbs and ship them to Howard. Upon return you would need to reinstall them and get a synch done. They are usually very close. I do not know Howard's rates but you could find that out with just a email. I would not trust a shop that does maybe 1 set a year. Howard and Pete make a good part of their living on Old GL Carb rebuilds and are very very experienced and meticulous gents.
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JBZ
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:16 am | 18th Post |
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| i think randakk has the kit 4 the 4 carbs for 99.00 / jb
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Beverly
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:29 am | 19th Post |
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JBZ wrote: i think randakk has the kit 4 the 4 carbs for 99.00 / jb
Thank you, my next question was going to be where to get the kits from.
Will I need to buy a tool to sync the carbs after rebuilding?
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Beverly
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:33 am | 20th Post |
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| I just noticed Randakk has a Honda GL1000 Carb Rebuild Video. You think that would be a good guideline to watch and help me do my 1200 carbs? The video is $39.99.
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