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eagleswing
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 11:45 pm | 1st Post |
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Hi all
Just got my first wing!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got it here stared it went for a ride it did fine !!!!!I know the starter solenoid needs replacement,but now all i get is the starter turning but not the engine!!!!!!!!!Is there any way to free it up with out removing the engine?I can get it to engage by pulling the plugs and helping it by turning the rear tire!!!!!!!!!!!
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Robert
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RB
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:00 am | 2nd Post |
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Change the oil to 10/40 or even 5/30 if it's really cold..thick oil will stop/slow the starter clutch..before you change out the old oil but some seafoam, or MMO in the old oil run it for a 100 miles and then change the oil out this will help remove old sludge.
Second option could be hydrolocking from fuel in the cylinders..take the plugs out and turn it over if gas spits out big time..one or more of your carbs is leaking gas past the float needle..always turn your petcock off..but still change you oil.
PS if you don't know when your timing belts were last changed do that too..a great tutorial in the reference section with pics!!!!
Last edited on Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:03 am by RB
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wda-83wing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:05 am | 3rd Post |
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| can you give us any maintenance or history of the bike ??
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eagleswing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:07 am | 4th Post |
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| yes i no about seafoam but i cant get it started!!!!!!to heavy for me to push start
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Silicon Sam
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:09 am | 5th Post |
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| Get someone to help you push!
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eagleswing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:12 am | 6th Post |
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| It looks like he just changed the oil hes up north so i would think he put lighter oil in it!!!!!!!It feels thin!!!!!!!!!Its got 45000 miles on it
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eagleswing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:20 am | 7th Post |
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| how long do the clutchs last in the old wings??Do you think it is the springs are bad in the clutch!!!!!!
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RB
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:21 am | 8th Post |
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| You could try heating up the engine casing with lights or a heat gun..or an oil heater..put into the fill port??? Most likely your problem is thick oil or sludge stopping the clutch from letting go.
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1981 GL1100I Daily rider
1976 GL1000 Sulfur Yellow barn find
1979 GL1000 parting out..PM if you're looking for something
1975 sold
1978 sold
1981 sold
1982 sold
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wda-83wing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:25 am | 9th Post |
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has the bike been sitting ? if so how long ?
clutches last a long time with proper care and feeding. but batterys dont seem to have a long life . how old is yours ?
Last edited on Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:29 am by wda-83wing
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1980 gl1100 interstate --side lined
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eagleswing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:25 am | 10th Post |
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| its not hydrolocking ,i had the plugs out!!!!when i was helping the starter turn it over!!!!!!!Oh and i had it in 5th gear!!
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eagleswing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:36 am | 11th Post |
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| yes it was sting for maybe 2 years before the guy i got it from he cleaned the carbs and rode it for 3 or 4 hundred miles before he sold it to me!!!!!!!!!will try to heat up the oil see if that helps
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eagleswing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:38 am | 12th Post |
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| i tryed to jump it with running car same thing!!!!!!!!
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eagleswing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:44 am | 13th Post |
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| can someone explain how the starter clutch works,i looked at the parts just dont no how it engages
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JBz
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:52 am | 14th Post |
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eagleswing wrote: can someone explain how the starter clutch works,i looked at the parts just dont no how it engages
i cannt explain it real good but there are 3 little rollers that ride down a ramp with springs. what you might do is drain a quart of oil out and add a quart of atf and push start it and then let it idle for a while. the atf should clean the varnish off the rollers and the ramps if thats the problem. jb
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wda-83wing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 12:54 am | 15th Post |
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| do you know what a sprag or one way clutch is? thats how the starter engages the engine.
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1980 gl1100 interstate --side lined
1983 gl1100 interstate the fastest color--RED
retiered trucker---going to see it again ----on 2 wheels---love it--love it--- love it
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retiredintime
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 02:27 am | 16th Post |
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| Strange? If it were truly the starter clutch not engaging then taking the spark plugs out and helping it along by turning the rear wheel in 5th gear should not help any. Do you have a voltmeter? If so I would check the voltage right down at the starter when the button is pushed. It should be at least 10 volts. If not check at the battery with the voltmeter. Why do you think it needs a starter relay??
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eagleswing
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 07:53 pm | 17th Post |
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RB wrote: You could try heating up the engine casing with lights or a heat gun..or an oil heater..put into the fill port??? Most likely your problem is thick oil or sludge stopping the clutch from letting go. Ok guys i tryed heating the bottom engine case with a infrared bulb,no luck same thing!!!!!!!!What is the best gear to pull start the bike?Going to try pulling it with my lawn mower!!!!!!!!!!
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Robert
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eagleswing
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Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 10:47 pm | 18th Post |
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Hey Guys
Problem solved!!!!!It was the supposed new starter,its junk!!!!!!!Just glad i had him give me the old one!!!!!!!Put old one back in problem solved!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks all that replied to my post!!!!!!
Robert
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