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| Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 12:12 pm | 21st Post |
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wingnut is your carb new that you sell on your kit?
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31st, 2009 04:23 am | 22nd Post |
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Hey guys, guess what I found for sale in EBay... a single holley carb setup. right now its a lot less than $400. heres a link. I watching it to see how high it goes. Its scheduled to close around 7 PM Tuesday night Pacific time. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GL1100-Goldwing-Holley-Single-Carburetor-setup_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3ca52717f8QQitemZ260468840440QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories I'm not sure how well this would work. I can't tell from the pictures how the cables would hook up. I might even bid on this item myself just for the fun of it. I dont know how it handles the cold and I hear there are problems with condensation in the carbs until the warm up. This is why the long idle warmup period before taking off. Anyway, its still something I am pondering. ride safe!
____________________ IF it ain't broke, ... Work on it, It soon will be!!! G.Ray Glenn Sr "GEE-Ray" Proud owner/fixer/slave & sometimes rider [LOL] of the classic first edition 1980 GL1100 Goldwing Interstate |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31st, 2009 04:31 pm | 23rd Post |
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I have a Cycle Innovations (company no longer exists) single carb kit on my 80 1100. It's a single barrel Holley carb. No matter what the temperatures are My wing starts right up with no choke at all. After one or two quick blips of the throttle she idles nicely at about 900. Acceleration is smooth and strong. Idle is smooth with just a little bit of surging that is actually rather nice to listen to. I average 37 miles to the gallon riding two up, and about 30 mpg two up and pulling the trailer. I'm very happy with the setup. It has been virtually problem free for the four years I've own the bike, and the PO had it for one year with out any issues. For a while single carbs setups got a less than warm reception here on this forum. But after years of successful use, after years of those who use them being quite happy with them, folks have warmed up to them quite nicely.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31st, 2009 05:21 pm | 24th Post |
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Here's one of the newer ones I've found using a VW single barrel... http://ldwingnut.com/default.aspx (... did I post a site of someone here? ) Attachment: ldinake.jpg (Downloaded 2585 times) Last edited on Mon Aug 31st, 2009 05:24 pm by CaptainMidnight85 ____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 05:52 pm | 25th Post |
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Hey guys, guess what I found for sale in EBay... a single holley carb setup. right now its a lot less than $400. heres a link. I watching it to see how high it goes. Its scheduled to close around 7 PM Tuesday night Pacific time. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GL1100-Goldwing-Holley-Single-Carburetor-setup_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3ca52717f8QQitemZ260468840440QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories I'm not sure how well this would work. I can't tell from the pictures how the cables would hook up. I might even bid on this item myself just for the fun of it. I dont know how it handles the cold and I hear there are problems with condensation in the carbs until the warm up. This is why the long idle warmup period before taking off. Anyway, its still something I am pondering. ************************************************* UPDATE THE HOLLEY SINGLE CARB CONVERSION Sold for $233.50 (american) In the last 15 minutes the price went from $49 to $233.50. There were 6 bidders actively bidding.
____________________ IF it ain't broke, ... Work on it, It soon will be!!! G.Ray Glenn Sr "GEE-Ray" Proud owner/fixer/slave & sometimes rider [LOL] of the classic first edition 1980 GL1100 Goldwing Interstate |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 09:03 pm | 26th Post |
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you may also want to shoot dubswing a pm, he alsoo converted to a single VW carb, not sure if he took pictures but it may be worth asking
____________________ GØSVH radio hams do it all night !!! and sometimes with frequency '88 GL1500 |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 01:09 am | 27th Post |
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I'm gonna put an Edelbrock Victor jurior intake on mine.lol... Last edited on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 12:47 pm by cyclewizard |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 05:18 pm | 28th Post |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=753068
____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 08:11 pm | 29th Post |
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Hey ASTOR123, In response to your question as to why I am interested in a conversion from the stock 4 to the single carb setup. No it isnt a matter of quick acceleration or wanting to try to run 125 MPH or get 50 mpg... For me its a matter of general maintenance. I have to pull my carbs every spring and set the floatbowels and make sure there is not gumming up of any of the parts. Thats a whole day job. pulling them, setting them, reinstalling them, vacuum syncing them. I just think that I should get more time between fixes than a few months of riding. I have had bikes that I had for 4 or 5 years and never did anything to the carbs but run some gumout thru them. So my main interest is not more horsepower but better or easier maintenance.
____________________ IF it ain't broke, ... Work on it, It soon will be!!! G.Ray Glenn Sr "GEE-Ray" Proud owner/fixer/slave & sometimes rider [LOL] of the classic first edition 1980 GL1100 Goldwing Interstate |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 12:27 am | 30th Post |
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Hey Grayglennsr, I am in FULL, 110% agreement with you. When my bike works well it’s awesome. It is quick and nimble and does pull like a mule. I don’t drive my bike hard at all. Truth be known, I don’t think I ever had it above 130kph (80 mph) and that was probably passing a car on the highway. I don’t treat it like a crotch rocket. I do accelerate hard at times for a thrill but that’s about it. I too am keeping an eye out for a good single carb kit. I too am tired of the $$$ flowing out the door for a yearly carb job. I could have paid for a high end single carb and manifold by now. I don’t have an original showroom bike nor do I want one. I demand dependability on a repair. I do not count something as fixed if you have to fix it on a regular biases, that’s called maintenance. Cars with 4,6 and 8 cylinders (and more) have been running on a single carbs for darn near a century or more. I know that they work well with cars so why do so many people scoff at single carb for a bike? Can anyone really give me a good reason? Probably not. I am in need of yet another carb job on my bike. Mark my words… this is the very last one. I have a Goldwing to enjoy. Period. Carbs that are this sensitive do not bring me joy and as each day goes by I grow more “intolerant” of these “things” between my legs! When I find my replacement I will document the living daylights out of it. The hunt is on. I have seen people kinda slammed down upon and given a hard time here when they “come out of the closet” with their single carb fantasies. It is getting better though. In that spirit I am declaring: I TOO AM SINGLE CARB CURIOUS AND PROUD OF IT!!! I urge anyone that has lost their joy to join me in this crusade and add this motto to their tagline. Tim.
____________________ **** Proud new father of a 91 1500 Aspencade **** 1) Experience is something you don't get until after you need it. 2) A closed mouth gathers no foot. 3) You aren't learning much when your lips are moving. 4) IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT, WHEN WILL YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT OVER?? |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 01:50 am | 31st Post |
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Hi Astor123, Sorry if you mistook my humor to be aimed at you. It was not…. In fact it was not aimed at anyone in particular. I know that you were not bashing anyone and I did not even suggest it at all. I was just agreeing with Grayglennsr on the “always the carb” issue. This will be the 3rd time mine have been rebuilt. They have been done right and I have taken them to people that know what they are doing. Sneeze wrong and they are out of sync. Mine are touchy. I do follow all the accepted “cold weather” storage procedures and still have problems. I guess it’s the -25 to -35 days we have here in Jan to March. I swear I hear my bike creak from my bedroom window. For me and my situation a single carb looks better and better all the time. I haven’t been able to ride in the last few weeks because of this “downtime”. I have seen (not from you) “purest” out there that came down quite hard on one guy for the mere mention of it. I was a bit shocked due to the helpfulness of the members of this site. .................... You pointed out the very fact of what my humor was trying to comment on. To quote my favorite movie : Forrest Gump – “That’s all I got to say about that” Respectfully, Tim. Last edited on Tue Sep 8th, 2009 05:22 am by AZgl1500 ____________________ **** Proud new father of a 91 1500 Aspencade **** 1) Experience is something you don't get until after you need it. 2) A closed mouth gathers no foot. 3) You aren't learning much when your lips are moving. 4) IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT, WHEN WILL YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT OVER?? |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 04:26 am | 32nd Post |
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I just love my Weber 28/30 so much on my 77 that my gorgeous 75 will be getting one too.Idles sooooo smoooooth. The 28/30 has the big barrel running primary and the small one for secondary. The primary is spot on.The secondary jetting is just not there yet.I went one size smaller and that didnt do it so next is one size larger. I can ride it with zero issues as long as the secondary isn't used.Once its kicked in the plugs soot up and it misses and wont idle properly. Been toying with it and its got a fast warmup now with super throttle response.Just kind of scratching my head now about the secondary barrels behavior. It could be a timing issue as I read that when using a weber carb its best to advance the timing a bit. We shall see! Flatfour Last edited on Tue Sep 8th, 2009 04:28 am by flatfour |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 05:19 am | 33rd Post |
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Ummm, easy does it. I don't see anything to get upset about here. I took out the last paragraph in post#20.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 05:19 am | 34th Post |
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grayglennsr wrote: So my main interest is not more horsepower but better or easier maintenance. Ditto... If I want horsepower and performance I jump on my 900. I've been following and posting on a thread over at the NGW site about this very same topic. Seems there's a lot of misunderstanding about GL carburetion in general, and GL CFM requirements in particular. Over-carburetion comes easily for a variety of reasons... of which I'll leave alone here. My bottom line is: single carburetor = simple carburetion: less fuss = less muss.
____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 02:38 pm | 35th Post |
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Sorry I missed this thread. I installed one of LDWingnut's manifolds and VW carbs on an '83 GL1100 I had. It was one of the easiest modifications I have ever done! A simple bolt-on anyone can do in 30 minutes or less! There is no difference in performance between the VW carb and the original 4 carb setup. It starts and runs in any weather, any temperature, does not freeze up and gets good gas milage. Maintenance is a breeze and carb synching is a thing of the past. LD lives just up the road from me and I hope he starts working on a setup for the GL1200s soon. I think I have a donor bike for him to use this winter. His setup is flawless and I can honestly recommend his kit to anyone. Bernie
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 10:48 pm | 36th Post |
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Hi Bernie (Dubswing), Glad you chimed in. That was EXACTLY the information I am seeking – someone that has actually installed one and can recommend it. Is there anyway that you can be talked into starting a new thread with pictures of how it is installed on the bike? I’d be interested in what it uses for an air filter, how the throttle linkage is set up, what work you had to do (if any) to get it actually working once mounted, how long you have had it and miles put on. I guarantee you will have a captive group of people hanging on your every picture and word! Pleeeeezzzzze???  Tim.
____________________ **** Proud new father of a 91 1500 Aspencade **** 1) Experience is something you don't get until after you need it. 2) A closed mouth gathers no foot. 3) You aren't learning much when your lips are moving. 4) IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT, WHEN WILL YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT OVER?? |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 10:55 pm | 37th Post |
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Mr Magic Fingers wrote: Hi Bernie (Dubswing), +1 That's two Tim's wanting pics and any info you can provide.
____________________ Tim CMA Faith Riders Chapter 732 Don't steal, the government hates competition. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 12:11 am | 38th Post |
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I just installed a CI kit on one of my wings. I still have to rewire the bike so it will be a bit of time before I can compare them. I have been getting pretty good service out of stock carbs but they are complicated to rebuild. I always had great luck with simple single carbs and on bikes that don't require absolute maximum power or pure stock they might be a good conversion.
____________________ Cookie 4 76 GL 1000s and 1 75 San Mateo, CA |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 12:14 am | 39th Post |
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Hey there Cookie! What's a CI kit? I have not heard of that one. Any website? Tim.
____________________ **** Proud new father of a 91 1500 Aspencade **** 1) Experience is something you don't get until after you need it. 2) A closed mouth gathers no foot. 3) You aren't learning much when your lips are moving. 4) IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT, WHEN WILL YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT OVER?? |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 12:39 am | 40th Post |
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The team is assembling... Good to see 'ya here Cookie 
____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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