| Rear tire on front, GL1100?? | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25th, 2009 11:55 pm | 21st Post |
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steve worth wrote:
Where did you get that bit of garbage, a retread shop? Tire carcases are placed in a mold and the rubber injected into it, The chicken strips are the bits out of the injection holes in the mold.
____________________ I am doing the best I can so don't give me any crap. Honorary Wild Rhino Darksider #304 the force is strong in this one. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 08:32 am | 22nd Post |
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I got that bit of "Garbage" when an Avon tyre Technician gave us a talk on motorcycle tyres at our bike club. ..Steve
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 02:57 pm | 23rd Post |
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Seems like we've been here before Steve. Are you familiar with any actual incident of someone crashing because their rear tire mounted on the front had failed? I have to go with Dave et al here. A stronger tire with more load and more tread seems like a solid option. If it doesn't work, there sure are a lot of guys out there riding that way. It seems like the guys that try it stay with it. I wonder why that is?
____________________ Joe Darksider #493 Former bikes: '80 CB750 Custom '86 GL1200 Interstate |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 04:00 pm | 24th Post |
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Hey Troutdog, See what you started?  Good job.Now for the rest of us...as far as I know, nobody here is a tire engineer. We did have a Michelin rep lurking about a few days ago but he doesn't seem to want to join in. Smart guy. But this is Troutdog's thread. So, Trout...I will once again say: I personally think a tire should be used as designed and intended. So, don't use a rear tire on the front. There are better options.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 04:15 pm | 25th Post |
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troutdog wrote: I am looking for pirelli route 66 tires for my 83 GL1100 Interstate. They have the rear but the front is 120/90-18,,, they only have this one in a rear positioning. Actually every site I look at say this. Folks let's stay on topic.......  Arguing between members does not help or answer the original question. The Admins and Mods will not allow this type of banter back and forth. It is great to have opinions but please hearsay doesn't help, if you have accurate information and facts, please link them. We could all learn from the facts but that doesn't mean there has to be a heated discussion everytime there is a difference of opinion. My suggestion would be to state your opinion on the question at hand and move on.
____________________ Bill 2012 GL-1800C Delivered 5/28/11 2001 Cycle Mate CM2000 LTD Trailer (Of course, fastest color) Dual Member of Bailey Lodge #146, Greer, SC and Northstar Lodge #168, Wichita, KS 2B1ASK1, Midian Shriner, AOPA, Founding member of Wild Rhinos and KANWINGS, Kansas Patriot Guard, Masonic Goldwings http://www.kanwings.com http://masonicwings.com/forums Photo & Video Site: http://www.wildrhinos.leehoan.com/ For NASSIR News: http://www.nassir-news.com Let it be known that Flyone, having sworn that he has kissed the Cod, downed the Screech, and shouted "Long may your big jib draw!" is now considered an Honarary Newfoundlander. "Stray Newfie" loves the rock!!! "Jus Remember, wherevers ya go, der yous are." "Father Duck"  RIP Pop Fly |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 09:58 am | 26th Post |
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At the top of this Dave accused me of writing Garbage. Just to keep things factual here's an email and reply I sent to Avon Tyres: From: steven worth [mailto:steven.worth@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 26 October 2009 11:19 To: McNally, Pete J. Subject: Tyre construction Hi, Some years ago we had a person from Avon tyres give a talk at one of our Bike Club nights. I recall him saying that motorcycle tyres were constructed from a strip of rubber formed into a circle and joined with a "Cleave" joint.- at least that's what I think he said. This was one of the reasons for following the correct tyre rotation fitment to minimise stress on the joint. Is this still the case? Many Thanks.....................Steve The response: Hi Steve, Yes, this is still the case. Best regards, Peter J McNally M/C Technical Product Manager
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 10:57 am | 27th Post |
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OK, I give up. I am going to put everything back like it's supposed to be. Then I'm going to board up my windows and stay in the house, naked because I run the risk of putting my socks on the wrong feet and putting my underwear on backward.
____________________ I am doing the best I can so don't give me any crap. Honorary Wild Rhino Darksider #304 the force is strong in this one. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 12:44 pm | 28th Post |
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troutdog wrote:
So, troutdog, the factual answer is yes, you can put it on the front, but you may get some opposition from some that don't like the idea.
____________________ Joe Darksider #493 Former bikes: '80 CB750 Custom '86 GL1200 Interstate |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 12:44 pm | 29th Post |
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As anyone thought of the insurance consequences should an accident occur. Would they pay out?? In the UK they would definately not and the insurance would also be void. Best to remain to spec setup. Steve, I'm with you on this one but maybe in the states laws are totally different with regards tyres or tires lol. I'm running Avon Vipers as spec and happy. Safe winging all!
____________________ All weather rider Previous bikes: FS1E,CB175,RD250,CB250N,RD350LC,CB550,GL1000K1. Bikes ridden: HD SSX175,KH250,XS250,CB400four,CX500C,Z750, CB750KZ,ZZR750,GSX1100,HD Sportster 883,BMW 650,600 Bandit,Z1R,Ducati Monster,ST1100, |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 01:04 pm | 30th Post |
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you can't apply UK law to USA laws.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 03:46 pm | 31st Post |
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Hi AZgl1500, I just thought insurance exceptions would apply whatever country/state you happen to be riding in and I did not intend to imply that they are the same laws for UK and USA, just a general comment really and I apologize if it did not translate that way in my comment above. Ok can I say common sense should prevail with tyres/tires as the sole print is the only thing keeping your butt off the tarmac and I would personally not take the risk :-). No offence intended to anyone!
____________________ All weather rider Previous bikes: FS1E,CB175,RD250,CB250N,RD350LC,CB550,GL1000K1. Bikes ridden: HD SSX175,KH250,XS250,CB400four,CX500C,Z750, CB750KZ,ZZR750,GSX1100,HD Sportster 883,BMW 650,600 Bandit,Z1R,Ducati Monster,ST1100, |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 09:31 pm | 32nd Post |
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Insurance coverage is not voided based on tires. Lighten up on the drama.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 09:46 pm | 33rd Post |
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Rear tires are put on the front wheels of motorcycles daily. But living in the microcosm of the GL world, how would most of you know?  Y'all ought to come over to the Carb threads, we love beating each other up on a routine basis over there....  Fresh meat is good meat.  ...  Edit: It aint personal..... it's a tire. Last edited on Fri Oct 30th, 2009 09:47 pm by CaptainMidnight85 ____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 03:08 am | 34th Post |
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When I bought my '85 1200 it had near new Dunlop E-2's on it. It had a fat front tire. So fat in fact, it rubbed the chrome mud flap at the rear of the fender. It was a rear tire, turned around, running against the arrow. ** I rode it for over 8,000 miles with no problems!** And with excellent wear. The tread is designed for better water drainage in the direction of the arrow when mounted on the drive (rear). When mounted on the front, you want the drainage to be best when braking, that's why the tire is turned around. John
____________________ John 1996 GL1500 SE Past bikes 1985 Aspencade 1200 1978 Honda GL 1000 1974 Honda 350 Four 1974 Yamaha TY 250 Trials 1973 Yamaha 360 RT3 1971 Honda SL 100 1968 Honda Trail 50 3 1/2 HP mini bike |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 06:27 pm | 35th Post |
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sfruechte wrote: Insurance coverage is not voided based on tires. Lighten up on the drama. I agree. We've beaten this one into oblivion....again.
____________________ Joe Darksider #493 Former bikes: '80 CB750 Custom '86 GL1200 Interstate |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 07:40 pm | 36th Post |
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Points have been made...........let's move on please.
____________________ Bill 2012 GL-1800C Delivered 5/28/11 2001 Cycle Mate CM2000 LTD Trailer (Of course, fastest color) Dual Member of Bailey Lodge #146, Greer, SC and Northstar Lodge #168, Wichita, KS 2B1ASK1, Midian Shriner, AOPA, Founding member of Wild Rhinos and KANWINGS, Kansas Patriot Guard, Masonic Goldwings http://www.kanwings.com http://masonicwings.com/forums Photo & Video Site: http://www.wildrhinos.leehoan.com/ For NASSIR News: http://www.nassir-news.com Let it be known that Flyone, having sworn that he has kissed the Cod, downed the Screech, and shouted "Long may your big jib draw!" is now considered an Honarary Newfoundlander. "Stray Newfie" loves the rock!!! "Jus Remember, wherevers ya go, der yous are." "Father Duck" RIP Pop Fly |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 07:56 pm | 37th Post |
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Steve, once again, that is UK law and insurance companies. My carrier don't care. I asked an he said, "does it have a TIRE on it? If it does, it is a tire. We don't care." and that is from Progressive who paid off on my totalled out bike and he did not even once ask to see the TIRES! This is worn out, pick a new one to chew on.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 08:21 pm | 38th Post |
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Interesting thread....... I'm torn between 2 extremes. On the one hand, I believe that the tire engineers know more than we will ever know about tires and therefore we should stick to their recommendations. On the other hand, this world has always moved ahead because of innovative people who are willing to push the limits and try new things----choppers, hot rods, homebuilt aircraft, race cars.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 08:58 pm | 39th Post |
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steve worth wrote: From the Suzuki insurance website: Are you replacing your tire with chunk of leather? Who would derive an argument of tire size and placement through that statement alone. Here in America, a DOT approved motorcycle tire is a DOT approved motorcycle tire (and in some states, that is of NO consequence). We haven't been regulated so far up the keester as to worry about the ridiculousness of what size tire you can put on your bike, as mandated by any insurer. Common sense runs this show, not the insurance industry (but hey... change is-a-comin').
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 10:50 pm | 40th Post |
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Steve, you made some good points and I think we are all grown up enough to make our own minds up one way or the other. We don't need the warnings repeated over and over. I personally wouldn't put a rear tyre on the front, and if anyone else wants to then it is their own business really.
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