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| Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 05:45 am | 1st Post |
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ok here we go again. i'm starting this project off with a great runing 86 1200 aspy. on board air everything seems to work great and have ridden this a few miles to make sure it runs and preforms as it should before i trike it. i also added my version of the poor boy alternator setup on the bike and test rode the bike a few miles before the tare down. heres the bike after alt conversion before the tare down Attachment: 3ke3pa3le5Pd5R35S79ai0e93b60b99df1d59[1].jpg (Downloaded 1598 times)
____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 05:46 am | 2nd Post |
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started by placing the bike on the center stand and stripping the rear off that i'm not going to use. instead of making my swing arm from scratch this time i am going to attemp to use the goldwing swing arm and mod it. this may or may not work. i'm hoping it will save me some time on welding and fabing. i cut the drive shaft side tube at the brace that ties the swingarm rails togeather in the middle on maybe a 45 degree angle, close. i did this at what to me looked like the strongest point which is going to be where i will attach the extension of the swingarm to the rear end. i off set the rearend this time so that the driveshaft will run in the same place it did originally. Attachment: new camera 022 fix.bmp (Downloaded 1678 times) Last edited on Tue Nov 10th, 2009 05:54 am by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 06:15 am | 3rd Post |
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the first thing you need to do is to get the wheel and tire setup you are going to use so you will be able to see how much you will need to remove from your rear end of choice. in this case mine rear end of choice is a 1998 mustang. it came equipted with a posi 3.08 gear and disk brakes, the disk brakes are a must. the gear is a little low for the stock 2.88 or 2.83 i can't remember now but i compensated with a taller tire from 24" to 26" should be just right. once you've come up with your tire wheel combination you can start the measuring process. most of the factory trikes seem to have a wheel base of around 60+ in". getting the look is important but making sure it's wide enough that it want tip up on you is important too. my combination came in at 53" looks good and not too narrow for me anyway. which caused me to take 6" from the left axle and 14" from the right axle. what you remove from the axles you'll need to remove from the tubes. your tire combination will dictate what you remove from the axles. get it right. if it's too short your done for. take a sawsall and have at it. so my axles shipped out to : moser engineering 102 performance drive portland indiana 206-726-4159 these guys are great and the axle cut and re-spline is 110 + shipping. should have them in here by thursday. Attachment: tbues cut fix.bmp (Downloaded 1678 times) Last edited on Tue Nov 10th, 2009 07:05 am by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 06:30 am | 4th Post |
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of course if you do screw it up anyway after all the measureing you can always compensate with a different wheel offset. i went ahead and tacked the end of the tubes back on and just a tack while waiting on the axles. you will need to measure when welding these back on to make sure your straight. don't want to be wearing out bearing prematurely. now if your affraid to cut your own tubes you don't need to be doing this. if you have a buddy or moser will chop um for you but that gets expensive. this part is really pretty easy just get it straight. find a place on the rearend and measure in about 6 places and get it the same on the hub all the way around tacking it as you go. a straight cut will really help in linning it back up. Attachment: tubes end tacked.bmp (Downloaded 1703 times) Last edited on Tue Nov 10th, 2009 07:08 am by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 06:37 am | 5th Post |
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i also realined the caliper bracket just purely cause I liked it on the angle instead of where it was. you can put it front ,up, down . it was in the back position stock. also you need to make sure the rear-end is where you want it in reference to your swing-arm. that's another reason not to weld anything solid until you have your axles in and tires on the ground so you can get the right angle on your swing arm and drive shaft. I'm going to give all the measurements and angles and all that but if you use a different wheel offset yours will be some different. i may have to do somethings 2 or 3 times as this is not exactly like i made the other one. so we build it together. this being a posi again, wheres a limited slip when you need one, i removed the center spring on the clutch pack to loosen it up some , that worked pretty good on the last one and didn't cause me or the new owner a problem, yet. ideally you would want to get a limited slip no clutch pac in the rear end. Attachment: caliper bracket.bmp (Downloaded 1686 times)
____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 06:48 am | 6th Post |
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 Sticky'd so we can follow you along.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 06:51 am | 7th Post |
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thank you! i think this is the 2 pieces before the tack. again just tack at this point you can put your wheels up against the end of this set up and measure 3" from the end of the tube to the inside of the wheel and get a close idea if you measured right. at this point you can make adjustments to your axle length if you need to. it's easier to re-cut the tubes then the axles. but if you figured right the first time. you can see in the pic I cut the end of the tube at the apex of the curve of the tube. so it's right at being to small and just right to fit it and weld it back to the main tube. makes it easy to keep it straight. a trick to getting it straight for me is to measure from where the tube slips into the center chunk all the way around and then run some tape around it where you want to cut and then saw. Attachment: 2 pieces togeather.bmp (Downloaded 1672 times)
____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 02:21 pm | 8th Post |
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Nice Project!!! If I get enough ideas here maybe I'll try one myself  I keep getting more information from reading this forum.. Keep up the good work and show the end results
____________________ Dave Ride Safe and Ride Often, Keep the Shiny Side up and Many Happy Miles and Smiles. "In God We Trust" All Others Must pay Cash!!! Current Goldwing 2010 Gl1800 Trike Other Rides 1985 Goldwing Aspencade Blue - Sold 2006 Harley Davidson Sportster - Sold 2006 Goldwing Navi - Sold 2007 Honda Rebel 250cc 2007 Honda 110cc 1985 1200cc Goldwing Aspencade Beige 1994 1500cc Goldwing Interstate Black 2010 1800cc Goldwing Trike Red |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2009 07:51 pm | 9th Post |
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You got a good jump on her. Looking good. What gear ratio did you use? Or did you already say and I missed it. I found it, nice project you got going.
____________________ Spider Bob GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY, GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps, it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away." Patriot Guard Rider |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2009 07:55 pm | 10th Post |
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3.08 but i went with taller tires and i did already post it. maybe a slight setback on the build dislocated to finger on my right hand sat. and they are still pretty bruised and swollen but as long as i don't hit them on anything they'll work some. had to be on my right hand and i just happen to be right handed Last edited on Wed Nov 11th, 2009 07:56 pm by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2009 08:45 pm | 11th Post |
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update. well axle are back and just test fitting the brakes and everything right now. more pics to come. Attachment: new axles.jpg (Downloaded 1451 times) Last edited on Thu Nov 12th, 2009 11:21 pm by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2009 11:10 pm | 12th Post |
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It move fast when you have it all planned out. Looking good, keep it up.
____________________ USMC, Vietnam Combat Vet. 69-70, GWRRA 78111 PGR 255645 1st Bike Honda Dream 150 Dream Bought in '68 1st GoldWing GL1100 1989 GL1500/6 (NEW)Still have runs GREAT 1993 Gl1500A Trike Build SOLD Now:1993 Gl1500SE Future Trike To many projects to finish |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14th, 2009 07:21 pm | 13th Post |
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just a safety note here while doing any grinding or welding around your bike remove the battery and store it in a safe place. my brand new battery just exploded in my face even though i was a good 5 ft away from it. was a rush trying to figure out what happened until i saw the fluid leaking from the bike. first one on a motorcycle i have ever had to do that and i have welded on and around them for a long time. side cover was removed and i guess a spark found some hydrogen and boom. jfyi becareful when doing any welding or grinding even close to your bikes. unless of course you have the sealed battery. but if it has acid in it watch out. Last edited on Sun Nov 15th, 2009 04:17 am by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14th, 2009 08:56 pm | 14th Post |
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Yes, that is always the proper thing to do. We think the battery is "just a small one", but explosions can be very nasty regardless of how big/small the battery is. I've only seen one do that, in a '69 Chevy pickup. It went through the truck's hood and "way up there" somewhere. Fortunately, everyone was over at the other truck when it happened. All of us grabbed a water hose just for safety's sake.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:18 am | 15th Post |
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welded the tubes togeather today after the explosion. measured them and didn't have to realine the right side it was so close. Attachment: tubes welded.jpg (Downloaded 1364 times) Last edited on Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:22 am by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:25 am | 16th Post |
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skoto1 wrote: well after the explosion i fabed the left swing arm extension. well almost all of it. i used a piece of 1 1/4 X 1 1/4 X 3/16 square tubing i picked up a local steel shop for the swing arm extension. i can give you the lengths i cut for mine but if you set your rear end closer than mine or father away yours will be different. i figured just showing you how i do mine will work and you can cut your own to fit. if you want mine email me i will give them to you. im still curious on the right side with the drive shaft . This one seems quite a bit differant than the other one you pivoted off the centerstand frame section. Ill wait and see what you come up with. Thanks JB
____________________ 2003 yamaha vstar 1100 classic 2004 honda rebel 250 {2}1983 aspencades + 83 Interstate 82 Aspencade <2>77 gl 1000 1981 Interstate <2> 75gl1000s 76 Gl1000 |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:26 am | 17th Post |
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got the rearend setting on the ground with the tires on it now and leveled it all up postioned the rearend where i wanted it. i measured from the passenger ft rest to the center of the tubes. 23 1/2" in this case and lowered the bike until i had the right angle on the rear end. scotched everything in place and started to fabed the left swing arm extension. well almost all of it. i used a piece of 1 1/4 X 1 1/4 X 3/16 square tubing i picked up at a local steel shop for the swing arm extension. i can give you the lengths i cut for mine {12" longside 3" for the short piece} but if you set your rear end closer than mine or futher away yours will be different. i figured just showing you how i do mine will work and you can cut your own to fit. Attachment: new swarm lt side.jpg (Downloaded 1216 times) Last edited on Sun Nov 15th, 2009 08:08 pm by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:32 am | 18th Post |
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i welded some flat plate to the swing arm addition so the welding would be easier and for added strength and welded that to the old swingarm. then cut a piece to reach the axle tubes. these two areas will be gusited top and bottom later when i remove the swingarm for the final welds. Attachment: old sarm new sarm.jpg (Downloaded 1205 times) Last edited on Tue Nov 17th, 2009 03:01 am by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:40 am | 19th Post |
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i use 2 pieces of 1 1/4 angle to make the swingarm bracket for the rearend. in case of a needed repair or you have to remove the rearend for any reason pulling 2 1/2" bolts the rear can be removed. i used a 1/4 by 2" piece of flat plate steel to weld to the bracket and then that to the rearend. used 2 pieces of the angle welded togeather to hold the new swingarm and drilled a whole through them while the swingarm was inserted into the bracket. Attachment: ls sw arm bracket.jpg (Downloaded 1180 times) Last edited on Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:42 am by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:44 am | 20th Post |
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test fitted and tacked everything in place. Attachment: sw arm bracket tack rear view.jpg (Downloaded 1161 times) Last edited on Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:44 am by skoto1 ____________________ just do it and ask questions later. if you never start you'll never finish. PGR # 190570 cc permit gl 1988 1500 trike sold 2003 flhtuci gl 1986 1200 trike sold gl 1984 1200 trike sold first bike cb 160 honda to many to list in between |
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