| 82 Goldwing 1100 Starting problems | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14th, 2010 04:42 pm | 1st Post |
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Slow turning over, No fuel in the cylinders, bypassed solenoid, new battery, pulled starter out runs fine,,put the starter back in same thing,,,help please
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14th, 2010 04:53 pm | 2nd Post |
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No fuel in the cylinders - possible because of the slow engine cranking so not enough vacuum but also possible a carb or fuel line problem? Now as for the slow cranking. First of all I would remove the spark plugs and try to crank it then - see if it will crank faster. If not, you could try to rotate the engine with hand (with the spark plugs removed) using the alternator bolt and to make sure that there is no excessive resistance, just to make sure that there is no some engine trouble, stuck piston or something, but probably not. I guess it is the starter problem. Sometimes the starter will get dirty of carbon dust (from brushes) and it will cause an internal short circuit. As the starter is a very powerful motor and it normally works at the electrical current almost equal to the short circuit, it will often work well even with the internal short circuit while it is not loaded. However, when you put some load on it then the trouble will become visible. So I would pull the starter out again, take it apart and carefully clean it with the compressed air, lubricate the bearings and change the brushes. Then try again. Just a thought! Alex. Last edited on Sun Mar 14th, 2010 04:56 pm by The New Owner ____________________ "There is no replacement for displacement" |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14th, 2010 07:38 pm | 3rd Post |
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Running a starter motor outside an engine is a useless test of the Series wound motor since there is no load on it, load it up and then retry. Load must equal that of a cold Honda Engine. As stated try checking the condition of the motor, if OK work backwards...cables, + and - , relay (starter contactor), cable connection, contact condition, relay actually works, then do the control side. If all OK what about the actual load of the engine and clutch assembly attached to the starter? Start with the battery, is it charged.13-14 volts just after a full charge, specific gravity needs to be checked, cable connection, clean and tight.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14th, 2010 07:47 pm | 4th Post |
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Can't help on the fuel issue, but as far as the starter, I had a similar problem with my 1100. New brushes made a world of difference.
____________________ One day you will no longer be the big dog... just the old dog.... and it's nice to be surrounded by friends previous bikes 74 550-4 73 500=4 75 GL1000 |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14th, 2010 08:41 pm | 5th Post |
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I agree, I did the starter on my 1100 " cleaned & new brush's" this winter, made a big differance, turns the engine over real fast now. Good luck.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14th, 2010 09:35 pm | 6th Post |
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I plan to do that procedure very soon, if not this afternoon. Very frustrating trying to start the old girl first thing when the oil is cold.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15th, 2010 12:48 am | 7th Post |
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I say remove it again, pull it apart and check the brushes. If there is alot of black dust and the brushes are worn, that may bee what you problem is. Clean out the dust and try new brushes. That'll wind er up.,,
____________________ Bikes Ive owned, '69 Norton,'48 Harley panhead, '71 Bsa, '76 gl1000,'93 Harley ultra,'03 Harley ultra,'05 Sportster, '82 GW 1100.'96 Police road king very used. "I tried thinking once, but nothing happened" .,,, |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15th, 2010 08:52 am | 8th Post |
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Ok folks, I did my starter clean tonight. Took me about two hours and really wasn't hard at all. I followed the link provided by Woodbutcher, everything went very smoothly. Just a cursory test it seems like my bike starts RIGHT NOW compared to the slow grind it was enduring before. I barely have to hit the starter button and it's running, even cold. So anyone wanting to do this, don't fret...it's easy. One thing I will suggest is you remove the shift lever for easier access to the bottom bolt. Lining up the chain/gear was really a lot easier than previously suggested, and mine was on the centerstand.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15th, 2010 12:15 pm | 9th Post |
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Woodbutcher, That same article is located here in our FAQ section. It's where I originally posted it. It has a few extra comments in it to help you along, especially an excellent addition by Straightwings. You can find it here: http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/forum9/73447.html Good luck guys! Tim.
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