| Possible stator problem.... | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 12:22 pm | 21st Post |
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THIS guy makes good stuff.
____________________ Kevin 1982 Aspencade That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.Declaration of Independence Belhaven #509 AF&AM 2B1 ASK1 Current Bike 1982 GL1100A 1983 Honda Nighthawk 450 1980 CB750 Custom 1999 V-Star 1100 Custom 1985 Honda GL1200 LTD 1992 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 11:17 pm | 22nd Post |
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Well I took the battery and had it load tested and it checks as a good battery. My dad brought up a good point and one I haven't thought about, with the wires coming out of the stator being aluminum and the wire that I ran being copper it could have a bad solder joint. I didn't think about the different temps it takes for the aluminum to heat up but the solder flowed good when I made that joint. I know that soldering makes a better connection but in this case what about using butt connectors? The help you all have given me so far is really, really appreciated  Last edited on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 11:20 pm by RobTheHillbilly ____________________ 1986 GL1200 SE-i Trike Thanks to my wife who puts up with me saying "I wonder if this will work" and who likes my cooking! The Wife...Louann Tennessee F.&A.M. Past Master Arcana Lodge #489 32* KCCH Scottish Rite, Valley Of Knoxville Orient of Tennessee Freemasonry--2B1ASK1 What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us, what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pike |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 11:28 pm | 23rd Post |
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I wouldn't try butt connectors. Those things are iffy even with speaker wires. I've seen wire nuts used.  The guy never had a problem, but I still wouldn't recommend them.Last edited on Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 11:29 pm by Bike...and Dennis ____________________ Why ain't we ridin'? http://members.toast.net/BikesPage/ |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 11:37 pm | 24th Post |
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I had some aluminum wire laying around and just now tried to "tin" it with soilder, talk about hard to do........ That's why I was wondering about the butt connectors.
____________________ 1986 GL1200 SE-i Trike Thanks to my wife who puts up with me saying "I wonder if this will work" and who likes my cooking! The Wife...Louann Tennessee F.&A.M. Past Master Arcana Lodge #489 32* KCCH Scottish Rite, Valley Of Knoxville Orient of Tennessee Freemasonry--2B1ASK1 What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us, what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pike |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 11:40 pm | 25th Post |
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You can't solder copper to aluminum it just won't happen. Your stator wires are copper and if they looked like aluminum they are corroded. In all likelihood your soldered joints are bad.
____________________ Advise given here is free and comes with no warranty "Caveat emptor". Ken |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 2nd, 2010 11:43 pm | 26th Post |
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Rob, All the wiring on any bike that I've ever messed with was copper!! If you need some help I'm only about an hour away!!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 05:44 am | 27th Post |
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Rob that just goes to show you your bike is toast !Time for a gl1500  No really my 86 SE-i did the samething & with mine it was the voltage regulator ! 1 time Then it was the battery !Then it was the agv coupler & then it was a failing stator & thats when I traded it in on a 4 wheeler cut my losses & went on from there ! Sorry about your mishap it just so happened it was an electricle system nightmare !
____________________ All good things come to He who waitith if he workith like hell while he waitith ! |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 01:41 pm | 28th Post |
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I stripped the wires back coming out of the stator and it had the aluminum color to it to within 3" of where it comes out of the stator. When I rewired before it I noticied that the PO, or someone, had had the wiring cut and soldered before. If I had hair I'd be pulling it out by now. I think I'm going to check into the Poor Boy system and see from there. That will eliminate all the problems. The BOSS has done said she wants an 1800 trike eventually................. Last edited on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 01:43 pm by RobTheHillbilly ____________________ 1986 GL1200 SE-i Trike Thanks to my wife who puts up with me saying "I wonder if this will work" and who likes my cooking! The Wife...Louann Tennessee F.&A.M. Past Master Arcana Lodge #489 32* KCCH Scottish Rite, Valley Of Knoxville Orient of Tennessee Freemasonry--2B1ASK1 What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us, what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pike |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 08:58 pm | 29th Post |
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Don, thanks for the offer on the help. If I go the poor boy route I may need to call on you for help so I don't pull my hair out
____________________ 1986 GL1200 SE-i Trike Thanks to my wife who puts up with me saying "I wonder if this will work" and who likes my cooking! The Wife...Louann Tennessee F.&A.M. Past Master Arcana Lodge #489 32* KCCH Scottish Rite, Valley Of Knoxville Orient of Tennessee Freemasonry--2B1ASK1 What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us, what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pike |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 4th, 2010 01:07 am | 30th Post |
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After taking time to look really close the wires coming out of the stator they are aluminum clad copper. I'm going to try to clean them and resolder them in the morning and see what happens. Everybody cross your fingers Last edited on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 01:09 am by RobTheHillbilly ____________________ 1986 GL1200 SE-i Trike Thanks to my wife who puts up with me saying "I wonder if this will work" and who likes my cooking! The Wife...Louann Tennessee F.&A.M. Past Master Arcana Lodge #489 32* KCCH Scottish Rite, Valley Of Knoxville Orient of Tennessee Freemasonry--2B1ASK1 What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us, what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pike |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 4th, 2010 02:01 am | 31st Post |
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I'd guess it might be closer to say they might be pre-tinned: a light coating of solder on each wire. It's been so long since I did mine that I've forgotton what they looked like. Try this before soldering: use some scotch-brite or fine steel wool to clean the wires before soldering. Do this by wrapping a small piece of scotch brite around the bare wires, (slightly spread), next to the insulation and pulling the scotch brite toward the cut end of the bare wire. Doing this 3-5 times should clean the wires enough to be shiny and clean enough to solder. I'd go ahead and use enough new yellow 12ga wire to replace the three going to the regulator as the original ones are now too short and at the least, you'll have to use a jumper on each. Once you get them cleaned up and twisted together use some rubbing alcohol to clean the connection before soldering as oil from your fingers can be enough to prevent the solder from flowing properly. Make SURE you allow enough time for the alcohol to flash off and remove the container from the area before soldering!! Another tip is when you apply heat to the wire with the iron, apply some solder to the soldering iron where it touches the wire. This will create a solder "bridge" to transfer heat better to the area to be soldered. Doing this will make the solder "follow" the heat as you move the iron and apply more solder. And use a good 60/40 rosin cored solder like Kester. I'm going back in my little corner now..... 
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| Posted: Sun Sep 5th, 2010 12:38 am | 32nd Post |
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Ok.............. I have soldered the leads coming out of the stator using new wire and 60/40 solder. I have soldered the yellow leads going into the regulator, and I have even taken the ground loose and cleaned it....................I'm STILL getting a max of 12.4v @ 2500 rpm and the regulator is getting burning hot in about 1-2 minutes. I'm all out of ideas and I am getting frustrated  Anybody got any more ideas before I go postal???????  I think I better go have a  or 3 or 4 or 6 and try to calm down.Last edited on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 12:39 am by RobTheHillbilly ____________________ 1986 GL1200 SE-i Trike Thanks to my wife who puts up with me saying "I wonder if this will work" and who likes my cooking! The Wife...Louann Tennessee F.&A.M. Past Master Arcana Lodge #489 32* KCCH Scottish Rite, Valley Of Knoxville Orient of Tennessee Freemasonry--2B1ASK1 What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us, what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pike |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 5th, 2010 01:26 am | 33rd Post |
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Are the wires coming out of the regulator getting hot at the connectors they plug into? Does the heat go farther down the wire? Maybe it's time to take Roscoe up on his offer.
____________________ Why ain't we ridin'? http://members.toast.net/BikesPage/ |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 5th, 2010 01:51 am | 34th Post |
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In your first post you said:might be the voltage regulatorIn all subsequent posts you only talk about wiring. Just a thought.
____________________ Advise given here is free and comes with no warranty "Caveat emptor". Ken |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 5th, 2010 02:27 am | 35th Post |
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Bike...and Dennis wrote: Are the wires coming out of the regulator getting hot at the connectors they plug into? Does the heat go farther down the wire? The wires are cool as can be, that's what's throwing me for a loop.
____________________ 1986 GL1200 SE-i Trike Thanks to my wife who puts up with me saying "I wonder if this will work" and who likes my cooking! The Wife...Louann Tennessee F.&A.M. Past Master Arcana Lodge #489 32* KCCH Scottish Rite, Valley Of Knoxville Orient of Tennessee Freemasonry--2B1ASK1 What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us, what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pike |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 5th, 2010 10:17 am | 36th Post |
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I know this may be a stupid question, but have you actually tested the regulator by the test in the manual? It really is a good test. I have used it on other honda models.
____________________ Kevin 1982 Aspencade That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.Declaration of Independence Belhaven #509 AF&AM 2B1 ASK1 Current Bike 1982 GL1100A 1983 Honda Nighthawk 450 1980 CB750 Custom 1999 V-Star 1100 Custom 1985 Honda GL1200 LTD 1992 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 5th, 2010 01:06 pm | 37th Post |
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I only have the SE-i supplement. Didn't get the manual before Honda pulled it's stunt. How do you test the regulator?
____________________ 1986 GL1200 SE-i Trike Thanks to my wife who puts up with me saying "I wonder if this will work" and who likes my cooking! The Wife...Louann Tennessee F.&A.M. Past Master Arcana Lodge #489 32* KCCH Scottish Rite, Valley Of Knoxville Orient of Tennessee Freemasonry--2B1ASK1 What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us, what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pike |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 5th, 2010 04:42 pm | 38th Post |
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Rob, You have a PM....
____________________ Don |
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