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98Wing-487
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 04:32 pm | 41st Post |
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| Works for me. Always been a fan of the K.I.S.S. method.
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Cyote61
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 04:41 pm | 42nd Post |
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luddy wrote: I'm planning a trip to Montana this summer. early. what's a few more miles to Georgia. I would enjoy meeting some of you folks anyway. Had a great time riding to the Keys this year.
Glad to see you made the trip OK and had fun. We'll look forward to seeing you at where ever this thing is held.
Tom
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Sir Slink
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 05:29 pm | 43rd Post |
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If you check it out i think the states listed are in the correct time zones except Alabama, and parts of north western states but since the biggest part of those are in the CST i left it that way
Slink
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sandiegobrass
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 05:43 pm | 44th Post |
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Sir Slink wrote: If you check it out i think the states listed are in the correct time zones except Alabama, and parts of north western states
Still like just time zones better... even if one state is different, it requires a complete list.... like said.. KISS
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Rudy
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 05:51 pm | 45th Post |
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sandiegobrass wrote: Sir Slink wrote: If you check it out i think the states listed are in the correct time zones except Alabama, and parts of north western states
Still like just time zones better... even if one state is different, it requires a complete list.... like said.. KISS
Unless each gathering is limited to the member states in it, then in fact if does not require a complete list.
It simply needs to be announced as an event, wherever that might be, and those wishing to gather, gather.
How is that for KISS?
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sandiegobrass
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 06:16 pm | 46th Post |
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Rudy wrote: Unless each gathering is limited to the member states in it, then in fact if does not require a complete list. It simply needs to be announced as an event, wherever that might be, and those wishing to gather, gather.
How is that for KISS?
It wasn't for limiting attendance... but for rotation of location.... if you read back through the thread, when someone (cyote61) tried to plan just what you mention (one USA regional gathering), complaints abounded that it was too far away.... hence came the regional idea.... to yearly rotate the location... I don't care..... seems to be too many picky people... 1, 3, 48 or 50 regoins, all the same to me....
What seems to be much more important is a willing spirit to "just make it happen"... I still think the original idea is great....
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Cyote61
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 06:51 pm | 47th Post |
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Nope and correct, there is no reason for any gathering to be limited to only the members in those states, I gone to dozens of rallies all over the country and was always welcomed with open arms. the reason for districts or regions is only to make it easier for those that are within to attend things. Thats why Wingding is moved each year all over the US, but thousands also come each year and travel well over 2000 miles to get there. Draw the lines, juggle them where needed so every one is included including Mexico and whatever. North America has boundary's. Get them all.
Like it was said, if a rally is planned in your region, whether it be a region rally or the North America rally, then those members within that region are the ones responsible for putting it on. 
If you get a big turn out, maybe not the first time, you will find they are not cheap to put on or easy. What ever the region is that holds the annual one, you can only hope to find someone that has a facility to volunteer to hold cost down. You need on planning a three day event for these things.
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redbaron
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 07:06 pm | 48th Post |
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Ok now we are getting some where with this ...I vote to have this first meet at Cyotes and from there we have enough great minds to go forward.
Red
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Dusty Boots
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 07:20 pm | 49th Post |
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redbaron wrote: Ok now we are getting some where with this ...Now comes the fun part.....................I have really gone over my limit these are but just some more ideas to be mulled over. In the mean time I vote to have this first meet at Cyotes and from there we have enough great minds to go forward.
Red
I'll second that. 
Once everyone gets together there, then things can be better organized for the next one.
Yup, it's a long way from BC to Cyote's 'humble abode'. but I have my Passport and if the timing is good, you'll see me there, if this thing gels. 
Dusty
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redbaron
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 07:42 pm | 50th Post |
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Cyote lets put a date on it say in June before its too hot. 1st or 2nd weekend. But only if this fits in with your schedule. I see that yours is a working ranch and we wouldn't want to interfere with your work. Besides riding a motorcycle and riding a horse is one horse too many for me...  . If you put a firm date on this meeting and post it, round up help, plan activities etc. This will give everyone a date to plan on to be there. In other words GO FER IT.....
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ekurtike
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 07:57 pm | 51st Post |
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Because you're such a character Cyote61, I have told you in the past that I would like to meet up with you. I will watch this thread with interest. I am planning a trip out to southern Illinois (Johnston City) to visit with my best friend. I will also be ordering a Hannigan trailer and picking it up during this trip. I have checked out most of your pictures of the ranch...Where is the bar? Hope to see you this summer.
Kurt
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SB in SC
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 08:02 pm | 52nd Post |
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I'm going to beat Rudy to the punch and throw $0.02 in on the "election of officers." I believe one thing that puts people off of groups like GWRRA (no offense to members) is running into politics. Part of the beauty of the SERRASJ is that it is very loose and almost spontaneous in nature. Someone mentions a time, place, and destination and we all decide when/where works for the most people. There is no set leadership, except for the first person that mentions it is the defacto leader for that event. EX. Rudy for the October ride and me for the November ride, probably Creekwalker for the spring ride. Now I know something like a national rally is a big undertaking, but I still feel it can be done in a loose manner. With the amount of active members in this forum, I feel it is very possible. Cyote61 is a great example. He is now the defacto leader of the first rally, which is to be held at his ranch in the south/east region. If there are plans to be made, they will be discussed on this forum. If there are costs that need to be paid, money will be collected from the interested parties. All can be done w/o the election of officers.
Just my $0.02. As I have already discussed w/ Cyote, I'll be glad to help. The other members of the SERRASJ group will probably also pitch in if asked .
 SB in SC
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ekurtike
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 08:28 pm | 53rd Post |
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| PS: I sent mana to you Cyote, for your effort, still couldn't fill that second barrel.
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redbaron
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 08:33 pm | 54th Post |
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Sorry if the election of officers was a bad idea , I stand corrected and will abide by what ever this site so decides to do. I in no way meant to insult nor offend anyone in any way..In the mean time I will butt out till all plans are made and if they fit my schedule I'll try to make it , if not theres always another turn in the road to ride.
Red
mana to cyote also
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Snorebaby
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 08:43 pm | 55th Post |
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I like the idea of a rotation. And as redbaron said....Go Fer IT!! I think a starting point at Cyote's is a great idea (since he brought it up).
I really enjoy the SERRASJ rides. Would like more of the Southeast members to attend them. Maybe this Rally will bring them in and we can have more regional rides in the future.
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Flyone
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 09:11 pm | 56th Post |
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I have watched this post now for a while......(Yes, and even keep my mouth shut  well until now!)
I love the idea and would come to the meet wherever it is.
Cyote and Slink know me.  You two tell me what you need and I will do everything possible to get it done. Like it has been said, this (even loosely organized) will take a lot of work. 
Let's all step in and assist.
Slink, just tell me when we are pulling out! 
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SB in SC
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 09:40 pm | 57th Post |
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redbaron wrote: Sorry if the election of officers was a bad idea , I stand corrected and will abide by what ever this site so decides to do. I in no way meant to insult nor offend anyone in any way..In the mean time I will butt out till all plans are made and if they fit my schedule I'll try to make it , if not theres always another turn in the road to ride.
Red
mana to cyote also
Hey Red, no offense was taken and your ideas are good. I just wanted to warn of how some discussions had already been held of how people liked the "loose" organization of this forum. I might even be in the minority here, so don't go by my word alone. But I still feel the event can be done without officers to preside. All we need is active members to participate.
Just count me in!
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Rudy
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 09:51 pm | 58th Post |
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Since my name was mentioned in regard to organizing the SERRASJ, let me throw in some thoughts I've had as it relates to this idea.
First off, I think that SB is right about not having officers per se. But this type of gathering is too big to leave to ad-hoc and does require a lot more effort and costs in planning than our particular brand of SERRASJ gatherings.
To extend that further using the GWRRA model is good to look at but it is going to turn it into what SB had mentioned.
As I mentioned before, I really do not believe that "zones" of any type are needed since the group selection that Cyote had mentioned for the next gathering could easily suggest the next location. But I would submit that the attendees select 4 to 6 potential locations that get researched after the meet and prior to a decision so that it's fitness of purpose, cost and availability could be determined.
If costs were involved (and usually they will be some) those planning to attend should submit some 'registration fee' to be used for those expenses and to identify who and how many plan to attend. This fee should not be refundable since the commitment for the resources would need to be made by whomever was making it go.
As to who should make it go, not all people are good at organizing things like this. Some who aren't still think they are. The failing of the planning and implementation usually results in bad or hurt feelings, personal expenses not shared and can kill interest by the attendees for all future gathering events. So in many ways, the person should be elected for ONLY 1 gathering and that person should be allowed to pick 5 other 'volunteers' to assist with the planning and arrangements.
Without this, I would not even consider trying to hold a larger event.
Cyote, you are an exception because you have the location and all the facilities and probably will buy most if not all of the eats, if I know you.
That is fine but that will not be the case everywhere and the bigger picture needs to be considered if you want it to become an annual event across the country.
Also trusted local members might be tapped for the committee to help make the local arrangements as well.
It could work. Odds are it won't last unless it has a constitution early, just like a start up business without an well thought out business plan.
Meanwhile, I'd be happy to be an attendee at the ranch and chip in my attendance fee once it's determined assuming it doesn't get too many rules along the way.
That is all I will say on the matter so live or die, make your own decisions folks and I'll sit by and watch to see what comes of this good idea.
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tanygaer
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 10:10 pm | 59th Post |
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Not that its any of my business, and unfortunatly I will not be able to attend this year, I have to agree whole heartedly with what Mr. Rudy is saying.
To pass on the experience so far with the Welsh Meet N Greet, I proposed it to a couple of guys on the board that had attended the Irish Meet N greet, they said they would help organise things, as we have needed specific things we have asked members of the board, not just members over this side of the pond either, several from your side of the pond.
Cyote61 steped up to the butchers block, obviously has the facilities (any chance we could borrow some for our little meet n greet), and the will to see the organisation of what will truly be a marvelous event, let him co-opt, borrrow or steal what ever help he wants.
I said stepped up to the butchers block deliberatly, if the event is the success that i am sure it will be Cyote61 will be the top cut, if it goes wrong well...
I hope its a success, I hope one day when I have less responseabilties (read less kids living at home) to be able to attend a meet n greet on your side of the pond, and maybe just maybe we might ALL manage to get together in a HUGE meet up one day.
Please excuse my butting in.....
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Sir Slink
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 10:20 pm | 60th Post |
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Trust me if it is held at Cyotes place he'll have plenty of help and support from the folks that know him.
Slink
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