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 Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 05:01 pm 1st Post
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I just saw this and it's enough to make you think twice about flying anywhere. Come to think of it I may have to go to San Diego in March..............wonder how long it would take to drive????????

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Its a whole lot worse in smaller planes...Now try doing that landing on the deck of an auircraft carrier.....Of course carriers turn into the wind for take off's and landings, but its rteral nasty when the wind changes directions and you are on final approach....That my friend is pucker power landings....



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 Posted: Fri Feb 3rd, 2012 05:44 pm 3rd Post
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On my first cross country (my wife was with me for this one) down to LaPort we made about three landings due to a healthy crosswind, and bumpy as all get out while headed down there...............

The instructor and I both missed (couldn't get anybody up on the tower frequency)that the windsock was almost straight out  from the South and we decided to land headed East. Now this was with a front that was up the country and was causing the wind to blow about 20 knots out of due South.......

I did pretty good on the line up and was about 200-300 foot from the end of the runway and we were bouncing around like a pinata at a birthday party.... I called out "your airplane" and the instructor took over and we landed two to three times (kinda fuzzy on how many). On the roll out we just looked at one another and shrugged our shoulders. My wife in the back was GREEN and demanded that we open the windows. Well we slow taxied to the North end and took off without any problems. Funny thing is, I made the best landing I had ever made back at the home airport:?........ My wife on the other hand wanted out of the airplane so we headed back to the FBO....... Man that was a hard learned lesson but it sticks in my mind........



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Was trying to land a J-3 at a small grass runway and the strong cross wind was coming from my starboard side. Crabbing hard into the wind, straightening out and then trying to keep the starboard wing down to keep from being flipped over was something that made one want to get out and kiss mother earth multiple times. Made me want the famous P-51 exhibition pilot Bob Hoover to see my one wheel landing.

I saw his demonstration of Aero Commander's Shrike Commander twin piston engine business aircraft where after a show of loops, rolls, and other moves he would for his finale he shut down both engines and executed a loop and an eight-point hesitation slow roll as he headed back to the runway. He touched down on one tire, then the other, before landing. Now there was a pilots pilot.



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monkeytrucker wrote: . Made me want the famous P-51 exhibition pilot Bob Hoover to see my one wheel landing.

I saw his demonstration of Aero Commander's Shrike Commander twin piston engine business aircraft where after a show of loops, rolls, and other moves he would for his finale he shut down both engines and executed a loop and an eight-point hesitation slow roll as he headed back to the runway. He touched down on one tire, then the other, before landing. Now there was a pilots pilot.

I had front row seats to his Shrike Commander "Energy Conservation" performance. He did quite a bit with both engines shutdown. He (next to my dad) has always been one of my heros as far as flying aircraft goes..........

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Yep, I've seen Hoover's Shrike demonstration a couple of times. He's famous for saying it's just a matter of energy management. He certainly was right, gravity provided the potential energy and he controlled the conversion of that to kinetic energy. A fine stick he was.

In heavy crosswinds flying a taildragger I usually angle across the runway to reduce the cross component as much as possible. In real hard crosswind situation it's often possible to land across the available runway with a light plane. A lightly loaded Supercub can fly at 30mph with power so it doesn't take much room to land it directly into the wind across a landing strip. The real test of a taildragger pilot is taxying the thing back to the tiedowns without wingwalkers to keep airplane from weather cocking or going up on a wingtip or worse, a nose into the ground when the wind goes aft.



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redbaron wrote: Its a whole lot worse in smaller planes...Now try doing that landing on the deck of an auircraft carrier.....Of course carriers turn into the wind for take off's and landings, but its rteral nasty when the wind changes directions and you are on final approach....That my friend is pucker power landings....
and THAT...is why they made ACLS.  But as they say, Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.



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good pilot to land like that in a passanger jet


i'd drive i'd be like ba in the ateam you'd have to drug me to get me onboard



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peterbilt wrote: good pilot to land like that in a passanger jet


i'd drive i'd be like ba in the ateam you'd have to drug me to get me onboard


:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
They say I already have a bad attitude as it is.......:ROFL:



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RobTheHillbilly wrote: peterbilt wrote: good pilot to land like that in a passanger jet


i'd drive i'd be like ba in the ateam you'd have to drug me to get me onboard


:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
They say I already have a bad attitude as it is.......:ROFL:

Then they really don't want you on the airplane.  Driving to San Diego seems to best suit your style.  :smiler:



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That was great video of some captains earning their pay.

Many many years ago I was on solo cross country trying land in Texarkana. It took 3 tries to get it on the ground and I probably had controlers and lineboys taking odds on whether or not I'd walk away from the intended landing. To this day, I do not know if there was a cross wind or only an imagined one, but for some reason that was a challenging landing. There was no one else to hand the controls to; it is a lonely feeling when it's you or no one.

The airline captains were doing a pretty good job it looked to me like. Notice that on the take offs they built extra speed before rotating and pulled up quickly?



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