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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 10:30 pm 1st Post
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picked up the wing in oct and just got the title back from the dept of trans opened it up  to check and make sure everything was good with it only to find a title brand of r on it along with reconstructed in 4 different places on the header of it.  is it just me or would this bother you when you saw it. contacted the dealer that sold it to me and his salesman calls me back and says oh i thought i told you that well its no big deal i contacted the po and he said its was only minor front fairing damage to it and he can email you pics so you can see the damage. but its not the amount of damage done to it because it still looks good to me but the fact that it was not disclosed to me and what kind of hit i may take if i try to sell it or trade it in someday with that brand on it. i believe in pa it must be disclosed to the seller in written form and signed by the buyer. any one know for sure?

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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 10:49 pm 2nd Post
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Don't think you'll take too much of a hit on a 1200 bike. But I don't know what kind of recourse you have with the dealer, since it's supposedly verbal and not in writing.

When I bought my 1500 last year, the PO e-mailed me a Cyclechex report, which would have been a real good idea in your case (next time...).

But get a Cyclechex report and see what it says about your bike history.

https://www.cyclechex.com/



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 Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 12:12 am 3rd Post
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By Law.... The seller MUST tell you in the advertising of the product, even on Craig s List, that it is reconstructive title or salvaged title. You will never be able to collect for any damages from the insurance company because the insurance company already bought the bike......

Unless you got a great deal on the bike, I'd be pissed! To me, a salvaged title bike or car would only be worth a couple of hundred per thousand in value. If you paid full price I would make one phone call to the Stealership you got it from, and let them know that this is the only call your going to make to them, after that your calling the state.

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Watch eBay for a frame and title.



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Silicon Sam wrote:
Don't think you'll take too much of a hit on a 1200 bike. But I don't know what kind of recourse you have with the dealer, since it's supposedly verbal and not in writing.

When I bought my 1500 last year, the PO e-mailed me a Cyclechex report, which would have been a real good idea in your case (next time...).

But get a Cyclechex report and see what it says about your bike history.

https://www.cyclechex.com/


It's not the resale value that you really have to worry about so much as the insurable value. If it were me I'd be on the hunt for either a cheap parts bike with a good title or just a frame and title. A full frame swap can be done in a weekend.



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If the dealer didn't make it clear that it was a rebuild/salvage title, then the dealer is at fault, and you should press the issue.



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 Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2012 08:27 pm 7th Post
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believe me i am pressing the issue and they are not to happy with me at the moment. but from what i understand this isnt the only deal they are having problems with.



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I would push that clear through to the State Attorney General for falsification of documents.



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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2012 12:38 am 9th Post
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i'e given them the chance to settle with me other than that i told them i will consult with an attorney and the attorney general waiting now for a response



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There was an old Corvette dealer here in phoenix that used to push salvaged vehicles and lie about it/not disclose it.  They got shut down, now they sell acessories or something, I don't even think they're for Vettes either.  It'll come back to bite 'em eventually.

Of course that doesn't make your insurance situation any better.  I actually asked my insurance agent once, just for fun, how bad it would be to insure a salvage title vehicle.  He laughed and said I didn't want to know. 



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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2012 02:06 am 11th Post
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well i'm just covering the other guy on my ins. and the bike is covered right now and the company never said anything to me about it maybe because it libality only.
guess if i tried to full cover it i would be hurting. this dealer just suddenly decided to retire and only sell used stuff without any notice hmmm makes you wonder dont it



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A few years ago we had 75 Sq. Miles of this county under water. I knew there were used car guys asking to buy cars that the owners did not have insurance on. Those cars did not have a salvage title and could be hosed out and dried out, cleaned up and sold as a good vehicle.



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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2012 04:54 am 13th Post
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Same thing happened after katrina, I remember a flood (no pun intended) of vehicles for sale out of east texas with "slight water damage", there were stories goin' 'round that the dealers were hittin' louisiana and buying 'em up cheap. After hearing the stories I knew why there were so many really nice cars for cheap



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My first Goldwing a 1986SEI had a salvage title. It really didn't make any difference to my insurance company. It also didn't make any difference when I sold it for my 1500, it sold for pretty much the same amount of other SEIs that I saw sold locally and on eBay. At it's current age I can't believe the salvage title will effect the value at all.



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