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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 02:04 am | 21st Post |
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Better sell that ram, AZ...... Gee, are you retiring? 
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 02:11 am | 22nd Post |
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Either use that 88 dodge Shadow, or maybe peterbilt will let you borrow his 77 Aspen. Apparently, you have a large ego, too.
____________________ Mike 1993 GL1500 Aspencade 1986 GL1200 Aspencade 1985 GL1200 Aspencade 1985 Suzuki Madura 700 1973 Honda 350CB 1965 Honda 50 http://goldwingtech.info http://RudysBackyard.com/ http://GLHelpers.com http://SERRASJ.com http://smartlight.rudysproducts.com http://www.iraqwarheroes.org/ |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 03:48 am | 23rd Post |
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Drove a '77 Aspen like a Ferrari..... now that's an accomplishment!
____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 04:12 am | 24th Post |
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I haven't John. My point is these bigger vehicles have a purpose, other than work. We can define what "work" is, kinda like what "is", is. Rv'ing is not work. Work, tool, same idea. It's for recreation, and I pity the time, where some government agency tries to tell me I don't need my truck. A little cereal box on wheels, is much friendlier to the environment. Try living your dream, when they decide the same for you. You don't like SUV's? Fine. don't buy one. Don't preach to others, that we are abusing their use, or scaring the little cars (drivers) on the roads because of their size. As far as ego? A goldwing owner has no ego to satisfy? Bull. We have some of the biggest egos around. Same with HD owners, ST owners, Hummer owners.......plug in what you will. Last edited on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 04:14 am by mikef ____________________ Mike 1993 GL1500 Aspencade 1986 GL1200 Aspencade 1985 GL1200 Aspencade 1985 Suzuki Madura 700 1973 Honda 350CB 1965 Honda 50 http://goldwingtech.info http://RudysBackyard.com/ http://GLHelpers.com http://SERRASJ.com http://smartlight.rudysproducts.com http://www.iraqwarheroes.org/ |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 06:43 am | 25th Post |
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There should be requirement that you should have to be able to see over the steering wheel and hood, of the vehicle, before you can drive it.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 01:23 pm | 26th Post |
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mikef wrote: I haven't John. My point is these bigger vehicles have a purpose, other than work. We can define what "work" is, kinda like what "is", is. Rv'ing is not work. Work, tool, same idea. It's for recreation, and I pity the time, where some government agency tries to tell me I don't need my truck. A little cereal box on wheels, is much friendlier to the environment. Mike, Does your wife drive it? Do/did your kids? When they first drove it, did you just throw them the keys and say have fun, or did you teach them to respect it? Would you let your teen age children get behind the wheel with a cell phone to their ear, and three other kids in the back? Before I got married, I had a girlfriend that drove a suburban. She used to tell me she was safe in it. She was above the traffic and could see so much better that she was safe. Then she proceeded to floor it and spin the tires..... just kidding. But seriously, in her mind, it was the safest vehicle on the road, and she could not get hurt in it. I would never even think to tell you that you shouldn't drive the vehicle you like. Why use a 10 pound hammer when an 8 pound hammer will do? Because I want to and I can get the job done better. That's a perfectly fair answer, but as long as you are good with the hammer, you can do a good job. On the other hand if you aren't, you can do some damage. Recreation and leasure are perfectly good reasons to drive a sport utility. So is "because I like them better". When I was 16, I had another girlfriend learning to drive, the first time behind the wheel she turnd the wheel to go around a corner, and didn't realize she had to turn the wheel back to go straight again. This was a really smart girl too, but she didn't have any mechanical sense. Imagine 8 years later, she is a mother of 3 and she buys her first SUV. Don't you think somebody better tell her how to use it? Do you think she is going to figure out all on her own that the truck is a little bit top heavy and you can't drive it like the mustang you used to have? Ok, she's 24 years old, so who's responsibility is it to teach her to drive this beast? Unfortunatly, in many cases, no one is doing it. I don't have the answer. I am a big believer in personal freedom. So what do we do?
____________________ Jim Beware, I'm a known thread hijacker. '96 GL1500 SE Honda Riders of Tidewater -- Former Chapter President http://www.hrot.org/ http://www.hrot.org/martino/goldwing/ |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 01:55 pm | 27th Post |
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Good-grief.... maybe that girl shouldn't be driving in the first place. Bearing children might run a close second. Common-Sense is free, but you've got to pull your head out of the sand to get it.
____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 04:16 pm | 28th Post |
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Wolfman wrote:
Matter of fact, my wife and I traded driving duties, pulling a 28' travel trailer. She has also pulled our enclosed trailer. The newer trucks don't drive like a truck, but the size is an issue. Especially parking. She likes the fact that she sits up higher, and can see traffic better. She would often times use the trucks solo (without trailers), taking her and her friends, rummaging. They love the storage room. My "kids" are 40 and 33, so cell phones weren't an issue, thank God. How do any of us know, what goes on in the car when they are alone, or with friends. All we can do is teach them the safest way. Both "kids" have driven my trucks, to pick up new purchased furniture, or anything else that won't fit in a Sentra trunk. And the 4 WD? I never put it in 4 WD, unless the roads warrant it. And then, I will use 2 WD until I can't. I don't want to get in a situation where I got myself there, via 4 WD and got stuck. Not good. The phone thing? You can't teach common sense. Seems a lot of people learn from experience. I can only hope it doesn't come at the expense of someone's life.
____________________ Mike 1993 GL1500 Aspencade 1986 GL1200 Aspencade 1985 GL1200 Aspencade 1985 Suzuki Madura 700 1973 Honda 350CB 1965 Honda 50 http://goldwingtech.info http://RudysBackyard.com/ http://GLHelpers.com http://SERRASJ.com http://smartlight.rudysproducts.com http://www.iraqwarheroes.org/ |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 09:59 pm | 29th Post |
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jeez everyone quit gettin bent outta shape all i meant was that here in the CITY where most people but large vehicles for work to home only i see it everywhere it just dosent make sense now i did NOT say that owning a large pickup truck or something like that was bad im just sayin it dosent make sense the gal next door to me owns a excursion and does she use it heck no it dosent even have a trailer hitch on it thats all im trying to say
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 10:08 pm | 30th Post |
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i've got an 06 Civic and a 97 GMC Ext cab with 400K on it and I would far sooner drive my old truck.And yes I use the 4wd nearly every day in the winter.Snowplow loves to fill my laneway and it is uphill with very little room to get a run at it.I guess I could get up a couple of hours early and plow the laneway.Not.4wd is also pretty handy at most boat launches. You know what really peeves me is the fact that nearly all parking lots seem to be built to fit sub-compact cars!!!Even places like Home Depot.They want to sell by the truckload,but they don't want you to bring your truck.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 11:41 pm | 31st Post |
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AZgl1500 wrote: They are real dangerous when the driver is DUI I love this biased media... If she was driving anything other than a government hated SUV... would the article read Toyota civic strike and kills 3 y/o? Doubt it... To many people trying to save us from ourselves.. Don't give me that oil crap either, if we would be allowed to drill where the oil was, there would be no issue 
____________________ Diggers Ride ^^2003 BLACK 1800 Da Boss's ride ^^ 2003 Kawi Meanstreak US became socialist on 02/17/09 God rest her soul My SUV just burned up the gas your prius saved... Thank you |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 11:50 pm | 32nd Post |
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My 2 cents worth, and it might tick some peeps off, but I don't care... But, when you start paying my car payment for me, then you can dictate to me what I should or shouldn't drive. Until then,... mind your own dang business and leave me alone... How dare anyone to tell anyone they shouldn't be allowed to drive/own what they want to. Who cares? Obviously a few do... What happened to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness... All I am saying....
____________________ Mick Shane 88 GL1500 - Dynastic Blue PGR 180727 - Riding in Memory of my father Ted Gulley, US Army, Korean Conflict |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 12:43 am | 33rd Post |
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Mick Shane wrote: My 2 cents worth, and it might tick some peeps off, but I don't care... But, when you start paying my car payment for me, then you can dictate to me what I should or shouldn't drive. Until then,... mind your own dang business and leave me alone... How dare anyone to tell anyone they shouldn't be allowed to drive/own what they want to. Who cares? Obviously a few do... What happened to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness... You know what guys, I'm sorry. I forgot who I was for a few minutes. For a few minutes I was attracted over to the bleeding heart side of the force... I see a mom and a toddler get killed, and I forgot that I believe in personal responsiblity. I was drawn into the need to help protect people from their own naivete. These people aren't stupid, they just haven't been taught. So for a minute I got caught up in feelings that I don't understand. Mick, Sorry if I came off wrong. That's not what I am trying to do. I respect responsibility. And if you are responsible when you drive, I've got no problem. If you taught your kids to get behind the wheel with the responsibility to handle it, I got no problem. That's what I respect. I am a big believer in personal rights. The words, Life, Liberty and the persuit of Happiness are very important to me. But I am also a big believer in personal responsiblity. I learned about both the capablities and limitations of a variety of vehicles, from mopeds to cargo trucks, on my own. But I was looking at people that didn't have the experiences or training oppertunities that I had. As long as people live up to their responsiblities, I got no problem with what they drive. You know guys, I started this thread because I was crying in my beer over two people I don't even know getting killed. I got carried away on my soap box ranting from an emotional stand point, and it's not even my own position most of the time. So please take it with a grain of salt. I stirred up the pot here, and I guess that makes me responsible.  Last edited on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 12:53 am by Wolfman ____________________ Jim Beware, I'm a known thread hijacker. '96 GL1500 SE Honda Riders of Tidewater -- Former Chapter President http://www.hrot.org/ http://www.hrot.org/martino/goldwing/ |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 12:58 am | 34th Post |
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Its all good Wolfman... I probably could have come off with a little more tact... At the end, we're all on the same team! Healthy discussions are good!
____________________ Mick Shane 88 GL1500 - Dynastic Blue PGR 180727 - Riding in Memory of my father Ted Gulley, US Army, Korean Conflict |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 01:45 am | 35th Post |
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Mick Shane wrote: Its all good Wolfman... I probably could have come off with a little more tact... At the end, we're all on the same team!  
____________________ Diggers Ride ^^2003 BLACK 1800 Da Boss's ride ^^ 2003 Kawi Meanstreak US became socialist on 02/17/09 God rest her soul My SUV just burned up the gas your prius saved... Thank you |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 01:53 am | 36th Post |
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Wolfman wrote: As long as people live up to their responsiblities, I got no problem with what they drive. Right-on.... I learned to drive in a Chevy Luv at about 12 or so. Would routinely drive Dads Bronco (round-trip about 20 miles) from his office to the house and back at 14. At 15 and 8 months, I got my first vehicle: a decked-out 2wd '79 Big 10 w/454, leather seats and power everything. My first new vehicle purchase was a Suburban. That being said, driving Grandmas Caprice at about 9 years old does not count as "learning to drive". Grandma and I swore a pact never to tell Grandpa that we almost took out the woods while staring at the pretty cows one fine Easter while visiting down in Florida. Responsibility is in the eye of the beholder unfortunately. What I deem responsible may differ in your view, but in action we here are all probably pretty close to one another if the truth be told. Did my kids do as I had done at comparable age marks? NO, simply put. Were they as responsible at comparable age marks? YES, and probably more so. Time and Geography are the differences in the factors involved. I don't see the roads being as safe as I did in my youth, and my Parents concur so I must be thinking right on this track. A little luxury from a "truck" is nothing to either shame or blame. Afterall, isn't a little luxury from a bike the reason we're all here? And does that make me less responsible than the the guy on a Sport-Bike? Or a Street-Fighter? I think not. Some think we're all completely irresponsible for hauling 700+ pounds around on two wheels. A lot of pointless assumptions can be made though. I'll challenge anyone on my right to choose. 
____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 05:04 am | 37th Post |
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I suppose I could ride a moped, but I'd rather ride a Goldwing.
____________________ My Father always told me,"Don't sweat the little $h!*." Words to truly live by. My past-80'GS 750L(not bad),85'V65 Magna(WOW!),81'750 Nighthawk(YUK!carbs kept goofin'up),84'V65 Magna(once again,WOW!),81 Maxim(GREAT BIKE!),and lastly,89'GL 1500. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 12:34 pm | 38th Post |
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My full disclosure before my comments on SUV ownership is this. I do own a V6 Santa Fe. It's a small SUV and for an SUV hater like me a purchase that was made with many considerations. First I live in the City so I didn't want some vehicle that I wouldn't be able to find parking for or have to pay extra for parking. Second my wife and I needed a larger vehicle so she could move her artwork and supplies around from job to job and I could tow my bikes around especially when picking up a project bike or anything else like engines. Our other car is a toyota corolla. "Great for the city" but very limited space for hauling things. I also feel an SUV is a tool especially the larger 4x4 SUV's. I'm not telling people what to buy or own. Do what you want, but remember it may annoy someone if you miss-use the tool. I dislike SUV's that have huge fancy rims. This completely destroys the vehicles abilities to do it's originally designed function and immediately tells me the owner bought it simply as a status symbol. I'm tired of SUV owners that use their large vehicle to push me around on the road because they feel their larger vehicle is giving them some kind of rights the rest of us don't have. I'm also tired of seeing SUV owners doing insane speeds down the freeway while talking on a cell phone ignoring the fact that the larger vehicle is more dangerous to those around it. SUV's have a great purpose when bought and used for that purpose. However, if you feel empowered by your vehicle you need to reconsider why you bought it. A large number of people who own these huge vehicles to do their daily city driving and have no other purpose for them are mostly a nuisance to the rest of us. They take up a lot of room, help keep gas prices higher as they demand much more fuel then most other vehicles and so many people now own them. When you drive behind them if you want to see around them you need to be 300 ft behind them. Their are many SUV options that are not as much of a strain on the rest of us. Many get good gas mileage, don't take up an unusual amount of space and have a smaller presence on the road, still have a lot of interior room and passenger space. I also feel that if your going to own a vehicle that size you should have to have a special license to prove that you have the driving skills and knowledge to drive one safely. As for the smaller SUV's that's open for debate. I would be more then happy to get an endorsement for my license to drive even my smaller one. Only because their are so many people driving these huge vehicles that can't drive a compact car safely let alone an SUV. I know I have repeated some of the other concerns with SUV's. I don't like the idea of limiting what people can and can't buy. However, I do get a say whether you like it or not when the ownership of your vehicle has a negative affect on the rest of us. Such as higher gas prices, higher insurance and lowered visibility on the road. Those who feel they have a right to own what ever they want need to realize their rights should not affect others negatively. You have the right to own what you want, I have the right to say you need an endorsement to drive it. Teenagers should never drive these things. I know many wont like that opinion but we require many endorsements on licenses to drive certain vehicles IE motorcycles, why not these?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 02:14 pm | 39th Post |
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tjradphilly wrote: My full disclosure before my comments on SUV ownership is this. I do own a V6 Santa Fe. It's a small SUV and for an SUV hater like me a purchase that was made with many considerations. First I live in the City so I didn't want some vehicle that I wouldn't be able to find parking for or have to pay extra for parking. Second my wife and I needed a larger vehicle so she could move her artwork and supplies around from job to job and I could tow my bikes around especially when picking up a project bike or anything else like engines. Our other car is a toyota corolla. "Great for the city" but very limited space for hauling things. I typed out 3 responses for this, but deleted them before posting... just let a sleeping dog lay 
____________________ Diggers Ride ^^2003 BLACK 1800 Da Boss's ride ^^ 2003 Kawi Meanstreak US became socialist on 02/17/09 God rest her soul My SUV just burned up the gas your prius saved... Thank you |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 02:19 pm | 40th Post |
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DigbyODell wrote: I typed out 3 responses for this, but deleted them before posting... just let a sleeping dog lay I tossed it around during the first two cups of coffee and decided the same thing...
____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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