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| Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 10:29 pm | 1st Post |
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Looking for information on ear plug use with helmet installed ear phones. The thought here is that the sound waves from the speakers are filtered by the ear plugs in such a way to allow the ear to more fully receive rather than shut down the volume. (fine tuning the sound waves). If this has been tried, what type of ear plug was used. What experience good or bad with the use of such ear plugs. Was any irritation experienced using the ear plugs and if so what corrective action was used. My trip to Dr Sound Man was a dismal but expected failure. No device or medications seem to be available. Googled and did not find any solutions. Lots of us older riders out there and growing, lets help each other. Longboater
____________________ MORE TAIL WAGGING AND LESS BARKING Be safe and have a never better day. Heading for the sun set and checking the boxes along the way.  Ned  2007 GL1800 Travels below.   Past rides: USS TENCH (SS 417) Yamaha 65 Honda 85 Kawasaki 125 Penton 125 Zuki 185 Husky 250 Honda VTX 1300 |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 10:58 pm | 2nd Post |
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Maybe this can guide you to something. Motorcycle Ear Plug Review - webBikeWorld I may start using some myself. It is on my list of things to do, if I ever remember to get some. I do not have the ear ringing, but sure do get tired of wind noise on a windy day. Kit
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 12:26 am | 3rd Post |
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Ned , I have some ringing but it only seems to affect me in quiet situations . Most any type of ambient noise and my ringing disapates . At work I do use some foam ear plugs . They block a lot of noise but I can still hear normal conversation . I think I understand what you mean about filtering the sound . These are just cheap throw away foam plugs you could probly find at Wally world , or hardware stores , I suppose even drug stores . I hope you find a solution .
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 01:20 am | 4th Post |
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Many thanks Kit and Mike, I will check this info out and get back. Ned
____________________ MORE TAIL WAGGING AND LESS BARKING Be safe and have a never better day. Heading for the sun set and checking the boxes along the way. Ned 2007 GL1800 Travels below. Past rides: USS TENCH (SS 417) Yamaha 65 Honda 85 Kawasaki 125 Penton 125 Zuki 185 Husky 250 Honda VTX 1300 |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 01:31 am | 5th Post |
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Using ear plugs makes the music much clearer to listen too since my ears are not combating the wind nose, and the fatigue level plummets so that I can ride longer, further, and more comfortably too. I can still hear everything around me, just at a more comfortable level. I have tied multiple ear plugs, some irritate my ear canals, some don't block the wind enough, and some work OK. I am still experimenting with new plugs and looking for the perfect solution.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 01:44 am | 6th Post |
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unionjk wrote:Using ear plugs makes the music much clearer to listen too since my ears are not combating the wind nose, and the fatigue level plummets so that I can ride longer, further, and more comfortably too. All great comments unionjk. Let us know what the winning product is. Ned
____________________ MORE TAIL WAGGING AND LESS BARKING Be safe and have a never better day. Heading for the sun set and checking the boxes along the way. Ned 2007 GL1800 Travels below. Past rides: USS TENCH (SS 417) Yamaha 65 Honda 85 Kawasaki 125 Penton 125 Zuki 185 Husky 250 Honda VTX 1300 |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 02:22 am | 7th Post |
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I too am at the beginning stages of looking at solutions. I have severe tinnitus. The ringing tones (5 or more at times) beat against each other creating fierce sound clashes. The volume level is louder than a person's normal speaking level. I had a conference today with a lawyer in a small room, doors closed and I could not hear him above the ringing tones unless I cupped both ears with my hands. This problem comes and goes. It is not a constant thing. It changes by the hour, or by the minute. Volume goes up or down. Some times it just goes away and gives me blessed relief. Sometimes, my hearing sensitivity approaches a normal level to where I can hear someone speaking across the room... Most of the time though, I have to be within 3 or 4 feet of my wife to be able to understand what she is saying. If I am in another room, I might hear her voice and know she is saying something, but what??? So, I get up and go find her. hearing aids are not the answer, they are pre-programmed to a fixed level. What I need requires me to be able to adjust the volume, and the tonal range immediately. ala a graphics equalizer. It is a harsh world I and others like me live in. And those who are not afflicted thusly have no clue what we are battling with. I make the analogy here that those of you who don't have my problem, are just as equally at a loss as to correct for it, as you are in how to stop that well in the gulf from leaking oil. both are very real problems looking for a solution.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 07:16 am | 8th Post |
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I have had tinnitus since 1992 as a result of a head injury. Unlike John's post before mine I hear 2 maybe 3 distinct noises. One is a whoosh whoosh that matches my heartbeat exactly (if that stops I'm in trouble  ). The other is a high pitched sssssssssssssssss that is there constantly. The third occasional one is a variation on number two. When it first happened I nearly went mad longing for sleep at night so I could forget it for a while. I have been told hearing aids won't do much, only amplify what I hear now. There is a website which I haven't looked at yet called http://www.soundtherapyinternational.com/. I don't know if it will help you Longboater but all angles have to be searched I guess. Take care. Lloyd  Last edited on Thu Jun 10th, 2010 07:21 am by LloydM |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 11:07 am | 9th Post |
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I also have severe ringing in my ears. Mine is to the point that I hear it all the time, day or night. My hearing loss also makes it difficult to hear and understand voices. I have to hold the remote constantly for the TV to adjust the sounds accordingly. Going to movies is a rare thing, because of them using so much massive base sounds. I have to wear ear plugs when in the movie theater, put them in, take them out, put them in, take them out. The trip I took to the hearing doctor just confirmed my thought that there was nothing they could do for it. I've had times I had to sleep with ear plugs and it didn't help the ringing. I occasionally use an Ipod when riding, and the ear buds let me hear the sound very good, but then I have to turn it up and down due to my hearing loss. Sadly, I think that hearing is like your teeth... We all know now that you have to take care of them when your young or else you'll be using some thing to supplement them when you're old.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 03:52 pm | 10th Post |
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In my former occupation as an equipment mechanic, I was working not only on the equipment, but had to go into the chemical plant units, where the noise could be very harmful to your hearing...I always wore ear plugs, but even those didn't help me...One day I was working on this two cylinder gas engine, on a small trailer mounted sump pump...I had it running great, two of my former co-workers decided it would be "cool" to swap the wires around on it...To crank it you had to bend over to get to the key, start button, choke.....The carpenter shop guys came to get it to pump out a ditch they were putting a concrete wall in....It wouldn't crank???? I went out squatted down turned on the switch and hit the start button, it back fired straight into my face......I started bleeding out both ears, my hearing was destroyed by two practical jokers...They got fired on the spot, but that didn't help me then or now....... I now have Tinnitus so bad that I have troubles hearing a shoulder mounted mike at work, I have to turn the volume up or down depending on who is talking......I have tried everything from trying hearing aids, that really don't help to ear plugs, which don't help to this stuff that they sell in the drug stores that is suppose to help with this constant ringing in my ears.....All because two jokers thought what they had done was going to be funny.!!!!! I hear this guys in their 4 wheel boom boxes at the mall and they kill my ears. So until medical science can find something that will help me and others like me, looks like my sleepless nights will be something I'm going to have to live with.....If you don't have this problem now, Protect your hearing because if you lose it, you can never recover it.....Use what ever you are comfortable with.....Sorry I'm being to sound like my former safety man at the chemical plant..... Claude.....
____________________ THE NATION WHICH FORGETS ITS DEFENDERS WILL ITSELF BE FORGOTTEN 1982 GL-1100 Goldwing Interstate...Old Red 1982 GL-1100 Goldwing Interstate...Black Beauty http://www.RudysBackyard.com |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 04:24 pm | 11th Post |
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Back in the 80's, I knew a guy in La. that had nerve damage(military) and had a constant ringing, they fitted him with a hearing aid that produced a counter noise of some sort, meant to counteract the ringing, he said it helped but was not perfect. He said it made it bearable.
____________________ One day you will no longer be the big dog... just the old dog.... and it's nice to be surrounded by friends previous bikes 74 550-4 73 500=4 75 GL1000 |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2010 04:49 pm | 12th Post |
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All great in-puts guys. I will be going up to Wally's place today and check out what they have. Looks like Moldex Pura-Fit will be the first if I can find them, all thanks to you and BikeWorld. Longboater
____________________ MORE TAIL WAGGING AND LESS BARKING Be safe and have a never better day. Heading for the sun set and checking the boxes along the way. Ned 2007 GL1800 Travels below. Past rides: USS TENCH (SS 417) Yamaha 65 Honda 85 Kawasaki 125 Penton 125 Zuki 185 Husky 250 Honda VTX 1300 |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2010 03:36 am | 13th Post |
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Purchased the "Hearos Xtreme Protection Series rated at 33db. at Wally World. Installed per the directions, put on my full helmet with ear phones, connected to the bikes sound system and started the engine. HOW SWEET IT IS. I think you have a winner here / hear. These plugs are really comfortable too. I am now watching a Rambo movie on the tube with the volume set up. Ran the volume really high and no pain. Also made a phone call to my wife who is away. No problem hearing her either. The bike test will be tomorrow with full gear including the GPS with phone set up. Because most of my riding is solo, the phone is a safety issue with me. This will eventually lead up to the SPOT system that you guys are involved with. This years tour in July will head over to Dallas TX, up through the mid section of the country along the Mississippi, leading to Minneapolis. Minneapolis to Duluth and north along the northern shore of Lake Superior then down to Michigan. All of this of course is subject to change with the oil spill and how it affects us here. Great ear plug test too. Another trip is in the planning stages for fall, but most likely next summer, due to timing, spills and hurricanes and that is the New England tour. Any way, many thanks for your assistance on a timely basis, I will always be in your debt for the very helpful suggestions. Ned the Longboater,
____________________ MORE TAIL WAGGING AND LESS BARKING Be safe and have a never better day. Heading for the sun set and checking the boxes along the way. Ned 2007 GL1800 Travels below. Past rides: USS TENCH (SS 417) Yamaha 65 Honda 85 Kawasaki 125 Penton 125 Zuki 185 Husky 250 Honda VTX 1300 |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2010 03:50 am | 14th Post |
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Thanks for that report back. Do believe I will wander down the isles at Wally's place and look that over and see if it would work for me.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2010 08:09 am | 15th Post |
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No offence intended anyone, but is this an age-related thing? Is this something I have to look forward to? 
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2010 09:07 am | 16th Post |
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It can be, but is not usually so. Has more to do with abnormal situations putting stress on the ears and the auditory canal. Me? I was born totally deaf. At the age of 8 a very good doctor did pioneering surgery to create the stirrups and other stuff to allow me to hear. ... super long story after that, 30 years worth ... But, even before I could "hear" sounds, I had internal buzzing and whistles and tones. For other people, it is loud extended noises over time. Or as in Claude's case, an extreme over pressure situation damaging the ear drums. Medication side effects also cause Tinnitus. There are many causes and it is not always possible to determine why. To date, there is no miracle cure. Today, Lloyd brought up an Australian company's use of noise therapy. That kind of got me to thinking... There are times when I don't notice the tones as much, and it is usually when the TV is on a station that has a constant running dialog. Baseball games are the very best for me, it kind of masks the sounds and gives me a sense of relief. Right now as I type this, I just finished watching a TV show about a court trial. A lot of dramatic volume level changes which are harsh for me, the loud noises hurt my ears, the lower volume passages are totally inaudible to me. I have the Closed Captioning on all the time, and I have become quite adept at both listening and reading the script. But, what is more important is.... after that show, my ears are screaming at me. It is impossible for me to get to sleep until I become so exhausted that I finally just nod off. It is not a fun thing.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2010 09:47 am | 17th Post |
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Darn, John, someone MUST write down your life story one of these days!!! Lloyd also got me thinking about flying. Singapore Airlines (yes, the very BEST airline in the world, honest to God!) gives it's non-coach passengers these special "noise-canceling" headphones that work remarkably well. The constant rush of air and the drone of jet engines which one experiences throughout the flight are virtually eliminated when these headphones are worn. From reading the write-up on them in the in-flight magazine, they apparently emit a sound at a certain frequency which somehow "cancels out" the aforementioned irritating in-cabin sounds. I cannot help but wonder if this type of technology could be developed into an in-ear device which could similarly cancel out an irritating ringing sound? Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm....... 
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2010 01:44 pm | 18th Post |
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One company that had a shop in the mall where I work was a company called "Zounds" ....It only took about 20 minutes with their tech to program a pair of hearing aids to fit me.....I was amazed at the sounds I could hear with them and the constant ringing gone......While this is not a cure and they did give me some "hearing" back that I had lost, they are not the answer to the ringing that Tinnitus causes....Looked up their web site for those who might want to see or hear about their products..... http://www.zoundshearing.com/ Glad you found some ear plugs Longboater that work for you.....Give us your findings on their performance on the road....
____________________ THE NATION WHICH FORGETS ITS DEFENDERS WILL ITSELF BE FORGOTTEN 1982 GL-1100 Goldwing Interstate...Old Red 1982 GL-1100 Goldwing Interstate...Black Beauty http://www.RudysBackyard.com |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2010 03:03 pm | 19th Post |
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dbd123 wrote:
Over the years my ears have been abused by mainly loud noises starting with standing watches in submarine engine rooms, active shot gun use, very high pitched and lord dirt bike events and now some sort of load touring. (Oh, forgot the very load abusive sisters-in-law). The tinnitus occasionally started at the end of my four year stint in the navy at the age of 27 with a short 5-10 second burst. Today at almost 70 the tinnitus has grown progressively worse 100 % of the time. In the last two years it has been especially bad in that sharp high pitch sounds are sometimes shocking. (such as what the female voice can sometimes create). Large noisy areas such as bars or restaurants are sometimes a real challenge in that I am unable to understand what the next person is saying. I have to lip read. The use of the foamed ear plug slowing down the sound wave or fine tuning the waves to eliminate the garble would be a real plus, even at the expense of low volume. Due to the progression of tinnitus through the years (40 yrs.), I would say at old age it is most prevalent to those around me because of my reactions. Any ways, let you know how the bike test runs this evening. Ned
____________________ MORE TAIL WAGGING AND LESS BARKING Be safe and have a never better day. Heading for the sun set and checking the boxes along the way. Ned 2007 GL1800 Travels below. Past rides: USS TENCH (SS 417) Yamaha 65 Honda 85 Kawasaki 125 Penton 125 Zuki 185 Husky 250 Honda VTX 1300 |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2010 03:27 pm | 20th Post |
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redbaron wrote:One company that had a shop in the mall where I work was a company called "Zounds" ....It only took about 20 minutes with their tech to program a pair of hearing aids to fit me.....I was amazed at the sounds I could hear with them and the constant ringing gone......While this is not a cure and they did give me some "hearing" back that I had lost, they are not the answer to the ringing that Tinnitus causes....Looked up their web site for those who might want to see or hear about their products..... Interesting site that needs further review. Also Medicare and other insurance should be consulted. Thanks for the input Redbaron. Longboater
____________________ MORE TAIL WAGGING AND LESS BARKING Be safe and have a never better day. Heading for the sun set and checking the boxes along the way. Ned 2007 GL1800 Travels below. Past rides: USS TENCH (SS 417) Yamaha 65 Honda 85 Kawasaki 125 Penton 125 Zuki 185 Husky 250 Honda VTX 1300 |
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