| Ethanol vs Regular "gas mileage loss" | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 02:58 pm | 1st Post |
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May 21 - 22 2011: Riding one up: Saturday tested the fuel mileage with Ethanol, fuel mileage was 35-ish. Ambient temps were low 60's and air moisture was about 85%. Riding two up: Sunday purposefully searched for a station with non-ethanol. Filled it up and the fuel mileage was around 44. Ambient temps low 80's. Air moisture about 90-95%. What are you're fuel mileage differences, if any? How are others coping with this FORCED fuel mileage loss? _____________________________________________ I found a cheat to up my power but some will swear I'm hurting my motor. After 2 years doing this, and 50,000 miles later, my motors still running fine, if not better. 
____________________  ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___ FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 03:31 pm | 2nd Post |
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Since they started adding ethanol over here, I have noticed a loss in MPG. Probably about 10% but I can't be completely sure.
____________________ Ted Kelly. Current Wings; 2006 GL1800 & 1997 GL1500se. |
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 03:37 pm | 3rd Post |
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Your results are generally what I would expect since typical ethanol does have less potential energy than traditional gasoline. And yes it takes more oil to make ethanol than just to make gasoline.
____________________ 1998 Honda Goldwing SE :-) Heaven at last |
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 03:39 pm | 4th Post |
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Most reputable oil information websites I read about ethanol, costs more to produce a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline. Ethanol contains about 70 percent of the energy content of gasoline. Basically stating you will get 30% less fuel mileage. So I'm at a loss here. Why use ethanol if you're getting less fuel economy and it cost more to produce? That's a double loss!  Are our politicians brains in the right place?  Last edited on Mon May 23rd, 2011 03:42 pm by FM ____________________ ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 03:51 pm | 5th Post |
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i checked the 15% mileage loss. it just deppends if i am pulling the trailer or not. other wise it runs about 10% loss in mileage per gallon.
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 04:32 pm | 6th Post |
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FM wrote: ....Ethanol contains about 70 percent of the energy content of gasoline. Basically stating you will get 30% less fuel mileage..... In theory, IF you were running 100% ethanol. Bill
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 04:43 pm | 7th Post |
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FM wrote: Most reputable oil information websites I read about ethanol, costs more to produce a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline. Its all about money...........and the pocket it gets lined with. 
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 04:59 pm | 8th Post |
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In California, I believe all stations and all grades of fuel contain ethanol. The worst I've ever gotten is 35.5 and the best 41.56. It makes no difference if I use regular or premium. I use Chevron with Techroline every five tank fulls and add a little Sea Foam every other tank full. Carl The 41.56 is with cruise set at 72mph and on my 1500 thats 3250rpm.
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 05:08 pm | 9th Post |
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FM wrote: ... Why use ethanol if you're getting less fuel economy and it cost more to produce? Well, if you first add the Ethanol, then use the hydrogen-bond hygroscopic nature of the ethanol to absorb water, and then sell the mixture as automotive fuel... You've stretched your 10% ETOH investment by about another 3% (I know I'd sell water at $4/gallon, that's alomst as much as the bottle water guys are getting for their water...) , even if I didn't get paid the 45-cents per ETOH-gallon (4.5 cents per fuel gallon) by the Gub'ment... 
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 05:14 pm | 10th Post |
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too top things off--- i don't think we are helping the food chain at all using ethanol in our fuels . just my thoughts on it.
____________________ 1979 gl1000 dressed --back to naked 1980 gl1100 interstate --side lined 1983 gl1100 interstate the fastest color--RED retired trucker---going to see it again ----on 2 wheels---love it--love it http://serrasj.com/ gwrra 003663 |
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 05:17 pm | 11th Post |
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Somebody has their hand in somebody's pocket.
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 05:50 pm | 12th Post |
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Growing corn to burn up as fuel. Feed prices go up and food prices go up. Fuel prices still go up, so what's the up side.
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 06:15 pm | 13th Post |
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Next... switch grass.
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 06:21 pm | 14th Post |
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Rudy wrote: Next... switch grass. hummm . . . is there enough conductivity in grass to use as a switch? 
____________________ ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 06:49 pm | 15th Post |
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All the gas has ethanol here.
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 06:56 pm | 16th Post |
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...the corn-liquor guys up on the Blue Ridge are just sitting back laughing... "...why waste it in a car?"
____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 07:10 pm | 17th Post |
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I drove to Houston this weekend from San Antonio. Going I had a head wind and had the cruise set at 75mph and averaged 28mpg. Coming home I had a side wind set cruise on 70mph and averaged 36mpg. All fuel used was Shell 93%with 10% ethanol. Last edited on Mon May 23rd, 2011 07:11 pm by cromagjeff ____________________ What can I say, I'm just a caveman. |
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 07:35 pm | 18th Post |
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I have posted my fuel mileage chart so many times, it is getting old. Over a 3,000 mile trip from Florida to Arizona, my 1500 averaged 33.3 mpg. That included 85+ into high winds, and a lot of miles along the coast just sight seeing at 35 mph. I kept meticulous records and could not ever correlate between different tanks of 'real gas' or the ethanol flavors that it made any difference or not. All of the differences were attributed to "style of riding" or the wind helping or hindering the ride. Simple physics though reveals that ethanol fuels simply are lower in BTU content, so it makes sense that we are paying out a lot of $$$$ for someone's pockets in the name of "being green".
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 09:33 pm | 19th Post |
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there are a lot of reasons to use ethanol. the first is there are no more dinosaurs dying which is what it takes to make gas. second reason is the people who can supply us with enough gas may not always be our friends and most are not. nothing is going to change unless the man gets paid. just a few thoughts, either way sucks
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| Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 09:44 pm | 20th Post |
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I seem to remember ethanol was an envirormental improvement...you know the CLEAN AIR ACT...burns cleaner with fewer emissions... BS...BS...BS...BS...I hate big goverment 
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