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 Posted: Thu Feb 2nd, 2012 01:13 pm 1st Post
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I am slowly making the bike my own, but still need to make a few more adjustments before my son and I take an excursion this summer/fall.

The seat that came with the bike had no backrest, but I found a seat on Ebay that did.  When I put it on the bike, it didn't fit me at all.  I took it to an upholstery shop and had it reshaped and padding added- it is great now!  I now sit farther back, have a backrest and the two additional inches of foam gave me more legroom and got me looking over instead of through the windshield- all good!

The bike has a Tall Tulsa.  If you look at the photo, you'll see how close my head is to the windshield and I'm not happy at all with the wind noise.

So, oh Wizened Ones of the SSGF, what suggestions do you have to further enhance my riding comfort?   :?


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Looks like you need to get rid of the Tulsa. They are swept back much more than any other shield. That is a common complaint with them. Others will chime in with recommendations.



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I purchase these, particularly from this Arkansas vendor on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slipstreamer-S-166-M-C-Replacement-Windscreen-GL1500-/370495492929?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item5643409341

It is the original size windscreen, and does not sweep backward like the Tulsa.



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I put on a V-Stream last Aug before my trip, 13,000 miles. It sits more upright and comes in standard height and taller if you want.
How tall are you?



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I'm 6'3" and obviously a pretty big guy.

Thanks guys for your suggestions.



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Sitting nice and tall there awingandaprayer  !

I'll bet that you whack your head on that Tulsa as you mount/dismount ...  the exact reason I didn't like the Tulsa tall on my 1500...  Memphis Shades has tall (and wide) windshileds that are closer to the OEM angles that seem to be reasonably priced...

The tough thing now is that you'll need to figure out "how tall" of a windshiled you'd like...  BUT , since you've got a Tulsa that's sloped backwards, measuring height on that shield won't translate to height the windshield you've got there...

Kinda by way of illustration, I made the image (below) when I was looking for a similar solution (super-imposed two side-on 1500 photos of bikes with each windshield):

 

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I went from the stock OEM shield, which I found to have a lot of buffeting and flex issues  ...



 

     

 

   ....  to a Cee Bailey's screen, which while 2" shorter than stock OEM height, (I ordered it that way) reduced the buffeting, provides greater 'over all' protection because of it's width/design and has no flex at all. Very good optical quality as well. There are no obvious stress marks visible while wearing Polarized sunglasses, (shows up as 'rainbow colours') unlike the OEM and other windshields when manufactured

 

  

 

 
Myself  ....  I'm 6' with a longer than average torso length of 21 1/2" and have absolutely no problem looking over the shield, to the pavement 40' in front of me. I also ordered mine with a light gray tint and an OEM type vent.

Cee Bailey's come in various sizes to suit your need, (from -2" - +4") but I'm thinking/guessing (taking all things/modifications into consideration) that the regular height would would suit you well (if you like looking over the screen), seeing as you have raised your seat up with the extra padding and apparently rearward. I can make available to you a 10% off coupon (PM me) if you choose to go this route.

As you can tell   ....  I'm pleased with my purchase.

 

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I got a Wind Bender and so far I love it. Also adds a unique look to the bike. I cna now clearly hear both my sterio and the bluetooth speakers in my helmet if I want to at any speed. Tested it over 100 and no issues. My helmet doesn't rattle any more as well. Best part is, it is a look over windshield.

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I bought a Cee Bailys for my ST1100 and can attest to it being a very good, distortion free windscreen.



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Here is a pick I just took of the wind bender on my bike. Please excuse the bugs I need to clean off the front.

As you can see it is in 2 pieces. As I have it, the top piece is in its highest position and the bottom piece in its lowest. The bottom piece has full range of motion to slide up and down so it can go up more then high enough to be a see through if I want it to. I personally like the 2 piece look.

The top of the top piece has a flare at the top that pushes the air over you and the gap between the 2 pieces allows for a more comfortable bubble to sit in. Less of a vacumme more of just a quiet spot.

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I have the windbender and the wife and I like the way it handles the air. My only complaint is that if you do want to look at something close to you that curved portion creates some pretty strange distortation. I got pretty used to it now but for a while it drove me near nutty.



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theonegod wrote: Here is a pick I just took of the wind bender on my bike. Please excuse the bugs I need to clean off the front.

As you can see it is in 2 pieces. As I have it, the top piece is in its highest position and the bottom piece in its lowest. The bottom piece has full range of motion to slide up and down so it can go up more then high enough to be a see through if I want it to. I personally like the 2 piece look.

The top of the top piece has a flare at the top that pushes the air over you and the gap between the 2 pieces allows for a more comfortable bubble to sit in. Less of a vacuum more of just a quiet spot.

The way you have it shown you are still looking over it?
How tall are you?
Does the rain follow the flare down to keep the water from going over the top of the shield?
I guess I missed that they have the flare when I was looking at them, but I didn't have the extra money to go with it when I bought my V-Stream.
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DougW wrote: I have the windbender and the wife and I like the way it handles the air. My only complaint is that if you do want to look at something close to you that curved portion creates some pretty strange distortation. I got pretty used to it now but for a while it drove me near nutty.

 

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You guys are the best, thanks for all the help. This gives me some options to consider, I'll let you know what I end up with.



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It was a long time before I finally made my decision on which of the many windshields out there to buy, as well.  

My main objective was to get one that I could easily see over - not through. Being around a long time riding bikes with windshields, (35yrs) I know the safety factor of  being able to see over them at all times, when conditions are less than ideal. As windshields 'age', they pick up lots of swirls from polishing them, and just the dirty air wearing on them, never mind trying to clean them when dusty/splattered with bugs/dirt etc.  Driving at night, oncoming traffic headlights, or even street lights, the light refracts off of all those micro (and not so micro) swirls, making visibility through the screen very hard/distorted/impossible, never mind if you throw in some rain into that mix, or fogging over! It's a recipe for disaster

 

I was going to buy the Wind Bender HP (which Doug has on his trike in the photo I posted above)  when QD (owner of Firecreek) had the ones for the 1500s on sale a while back  ....   but   ....  I was very concerned that the two wide metal bars  being in front of me all the time would bother me. (Peripheral Vision) I'm sure those that have them get used to that, but  ....

Just something to think about.

  

Good luck with your decision/purchase. 

Dusty

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Dusty,

Do you know if the rider (normal sized) looked through or over the windshield of a bike with stock a seat and windshield?

I think I prefer looking over, but the slipstream has to be better routed than it is now on mine... of course nothing is stock on this configuration, including the rider.

It also looks like there are times it might advantageous to look through the w/s, but since it is adjustable, perhaps we can have it both ways?

I'm just curious what the Honda designers' original intention was.

Thanks!

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theonegod wrote: Here is a pick I just took of the wind bender on my bike. Please excuse the bugs I need to clean off the front.

As you can see it is in 2 pieces. As I have it, the top piece is in its highest position and the bottom piece in its lowest. The bottom piece has full range of motion to slide up and down so it can go up more then high enough to be a see through if I want it to. I personally like the 2 piece look.

The top of the top piece has a flare at the top that pushes the air over you and the gap between the 2 pieces allows for a more comfortable bubble to sit in. Less of a vacumme more of just a quiet spot.

+1 on the wind bender. Have used both it and Tulsa Tall as Dusty says looking through windsheld is aright in pefect conditions. Swicthing back to WindBender the one great thing about it can take the top portion off clean inside and leave it over night and nice and clean in the morning slide it on and go. 

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Honda's 'typical' rider is based on being 5'10" and 165lbs.  -  Ya  ....  I know!   :D

Seeing as your bike is anything than stock, especially since you reworked the seat, it'll be hard for me to make a real educated recommendation on what would be ideal for you.

What I have stated above is what I have learned over many years/miles of real world experience on a Goldwing, riding in all kinds of conditions. Seeing as I ride with a 3/4 helmet, I hate getting peppered in the face with rain/hail, so my helmet has an optional, integrated fast change face shield (see pic of me above at gas station) which works well for those conditions. I see you wear a full face, so no worries about that for you either.



I can't see for the life of me why riders (mostly new to riding/riding behind a windshield) choose to put themselves (and their loved ones) at risk wanting to look through a windscreen and riding behind a Tulsa Tall in a cocoon, trying to emulate the conditions of a car! My gawd man  ...  you are riding a bike, so expect some wind/buffeting!  I think the OEM is a pretty poor compromise from Honda, but there are other windscreens out there that are better, that won't bonk you on the head every time you mount/dismount..

I hear all the time  ...  "Well,  ...  I don't ride when it rains, or a night"  Ya - right! Then my friend, you are a 'hobbyist Motorcyclist' and the time will come when you do get caught in a rain storm, or stay out to late and get caught in the dark  ...  then what?

Okay  ...  enough about the 'teachings'. Some just never get it!  :?

 

The only time I look through my screen is if I get caught in a sudden rain/hail storm and I crouch in closer to the windshield to escape the stinging rain drops/hail on my face, then pull over/off and put on my face shield and rain gear.

With the large coverage of the fairings on these bikes, the really do keep you quite protected during inclement conditions. The use of proper rain gear is advisable if riding any distance in a rain storm. Because of the more vertical nature of my screen, rain does not pool up and come over the top dripping on my lap/crotch, like a Tulsa Tall. It merely runs down the back side of the screen.

My stock height OEM windshield measured 21" from the top of the black rubber gasket on the windshield garnish, to the very top of the windshield, when set at it's lowest position. As you can see in the photos above, an OEM screens sits a lot more vertical that what you have.

On my stock seat, with the OEM screen set in it's lowest position, while riding I could look over the screen and see the pavement 60' - 70' in front of the bike.

As stated earlier, I am 6' with a longer than average torso length of 21 1/2".  Your actual height really doesn't matter that much, it's your torso/back length that determines how 'tall' in the saddle you sit. Don't forget most will end up slouching in the saddle after a couple of hours riding, so take that into consideration, as well!  If you don't know what yours is, or how to measure that, this is how that is done;

Finding the right pack size for you depends on your back length, not your overall height. A short pack can fit taller people with shorter backs, and vice versa.

To find your back length, have a friend measure your spine:




  • Find the most prominent vertebrae at the back of your neck. It’s the large bump at about the same level as the top of your shoulders (point A).
  • Find the top of your hipbone. Follow this point around in a straight line to your spine. (point B).
  • Lay a measuring tape directly against your spine, and measure the distance between points A and B.
Now that you are armed with that, you are ready to move onto the 'next phase, which would be to make a 'mock up' of an OEM windscreen out of cardboard, or some such, shaped to 30" wide at the base/sides and 21" long/tall. Then you would attach that to the front of your windshield base with some tape and get something to prop it out to resemble the angle of what the OEM screen would be. You'd have to approximate it, using either one of my photos of the OEM screen for a guide, or a friend who has one.

Then once you have that done, place a 2x4 or some such on your drive some 60' -70' ahead of the front tire. Then get on your bike and take it off the side/double kickstand and see how that mock up screen works for you, allowing you to see the 2x, over top of the mock up. Don't forget,  ... a typical windscreen has about 1 1/4" - 1 1/2" adjustment built into the screen's slots, so you can play around with that. It may not sound like much, but it does make quite a bit of difference on a more vertical oriented windscreen.

The whole idea of this exercise, is to give you an idea of how tall of a screen you need/want to safely look over the top of it and be able to see the road in front of you, based on a more vertical, OEM style of screen. Follow?

Then you will be able to more accurately base your decision on what height of a screen to order.


As for my former comment of things bothering my peripheral vision, here is an example. When I 1st installed my new Cee Baileys, I added some chrome trim around it's edge. I gave it a couple of weeks to see if I would get used to it, but I couldn't, so it is laying in a ditch somewhere, when I got tired of it distracting/bothering me.  :thumbsdown:

 


 

Hope this helps in some small way.

 

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Prevent/Repair those cracked 1500 trunk lids by installing a set of Rudy's Lid Reinforcement Panels to the underside of your trunk lid.
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Yes at the height in my pic I still look over it. I can see the ground over it from about 30-40 feet in front of me. And there is plenty of room for it to go both higher and lower the way I have it.

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