| Using radial car tires on a GL1500 | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 04:59 pm | 1st Post |
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I have received new information that verifies that Radial Car tires can be mounted on a gl1500. See the information below. Hi John..Here is the information and attached pictures of a converted 1500 wheel. A fellow member who gave me this information. He tells me he has been running a Car tire on his 1500, and just completed a run to Alaska with no problems. Now this is pricey for some traditional goldwing owners (The cheapest thing on a goldwing is the owner-they say) What Mike tells me is you supply a 1500 rear wheel to a guy by the name of Harry Tarzian. His phone number is 1-814-349-2414 He removes the outer rim off the 1500 wheel, and installs a drag rim that will except a VW beetle tire. He then machines the 1500 center to fit the new outer rim. Once fitted, it is welded to the new rim. Mike tells me when he got the wheel with a tire mounted back, he went to a tire store to have it balanced, and it needed no wheel weight! it was dead on.. I suppose if you know how to mount the tire correctly, you'll be able to move a tire around the wheel so you don't have to use any wheel weights either.. The Cost I was told was $800 including the new tire.. Tire size is 165/75R/15 Mike says it goes right on his 1500 without any modifications at all! Granted it is far more costly than what we 1800 guys can do, (just mount a C/T), But when you figure how long a C/T will outlast a R/T, it will pay for itself over the long run.. Now the naysayers will point out that the Tire is a Radial, and shouldn't be put on with a Bias Ply front tire. Well "Tom Franken" who was/is one of the pioneers of Darksiding, actually rides a Biased ply tire on the front of his 1800 with a C/T on the rear and likes how it handles! So there you have it you 1500 owners..You do have a choice.. You 1200 owners should give Harry a call and see if he can do anything for you?? What's in your wallet?
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| Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 03:20 am | 2nd Post |
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One thousand dollars (conversion and freight) to put a cheaper tire on the back of your Goldwing. That makes sense? Considering the auto tire to be half the cost of a regular back tire you're saving $75 every time you replace the tire. So you wear out 13 or so tires before you break even. For a lot of people that would be around 26 years, a long time to get even. For guys that ride lot that would still be around 13 years. More than most own one bike. Not to mention the unknown factors of using a car tire where it doesn't belong. Go for it!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 03:52 am | 3rd Post |
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Just providing the info, and I am just the messenger. It can be done and it does work fine. As for doing it, that is up to each person to decide for himself.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 04:51 am | 4th Post |
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If you build it...someone will always be there to buy it. Maybe with this conversion, we can also mount SNOW TIRES ......and ride all year!!! 
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| Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 05:30 am | 5th Post |
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Studded tires at least.
____________________ If you can't ride, fly or sail it, why bother? 2001 Goldwing 1800 Paul W. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 06:10 am | 6th Post |
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Is this Harry Tarzian the photographer?
____________________ <-----------Zoe and Duff Doing nothing is very hard to do ... you never know when you're finished. - Leslie Nielsen RIP Metallic Blue Green is the new Black! |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 01:25 pm | 7th Post |
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What happens when you lean into a curve and you are riding on the edge of the tire? It isn't rounded like a motorcycle tire, you have less available traction, you will wear that area of the tire much faster, and that area will be flexing much more than it was intended to do. I will stick with the motorcycle tire. Rather be safe than sorry. Bernie
____________________ GL1500 Valkyrie Work for tomorrow, live for today. Live life like you mean it! American Legion Member Patriot Guard Rider Member Vietnam Veteran 68/69 MSF Instructor |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 02:01 pm | 8th Post |
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I wonder if a "Buckshot" mud tire can be mounted? Us rednecks like to go off road! 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 06:55 am | 9th Post |
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not a lol but a ha ha ha.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 11:09 am | 10th Post |
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Dubswing wrote: What happens when you lean into a curve and you are riding on the edge of the tire? It isn't rounded like a motorcycle tire, you have less available traction, you will wear that area of the tire much faster, and that area will be flexing much more than it was intended to do. I will stick with the motorcycle tire. Rather be safe than sorry. Actually if you watch Wexy's video you do not ride up on the corner of the tire when cornering, the tread is flexible and still leaves more rubber on the road than your M/C tire.  Wexy's Dark side
____________________ Retired Paramedic - 35 years. If I"m riding - life is good ......Never had a bad" day riding...Just some better than others!! Double Darksider # 1138 - with Dynabeads 30,000 miles from my Formosa, '96 GL 1500 SE - 220,000 km.... (8,000 km 2011 year) - Goodyear Assurance '84 Shadow VT 750c - 32,000 km ( 14,000 km 2011 year) - BF Goodrich Radial TA '90 Suzuki Intruder 750 - 88,000 km .... (Gone) '85 GL 1200 Aspencade - 185,000 km (Gone) '83 Shadow 500 ( Gone) '70 Kawasaki KE-125 (Gone) '?? Suzuki 80 ( Gone) 2010 Alps tour pic's http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx164/96se/Alps_2010/ Spot Tracker "http://www.spotadventures.com/trip/view?trip_id=225807">Alps http://www.drivingskills.on.ca skype - bob.joynt |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 11:54 am | 11th Post |
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After my first post, I started noticing a lot of people using a car tire on the rear of their bikes. Especially a new friend with a Valk who is on probably his 5th car tire and many thousands of miles without issue. And he rides extremely hard. Hard thru the corners and high speeds. If a car tire will live and perform on his bike, I am convinced that it will on any cruiser or touring bike out there. Dubs
____________________ GL1500 Valkyrie Work for tomorrow, live for today. Live life like you mean it! American Legion Member Patriot Guard Rider Member Vietnam Veteran 68/69 MSF Instructor |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 12:00 pm | 12th Post |
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A more current thread. http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/forum1/102583.html
____________________ I am doing the best I can so don't give me any crap. Honorary Wild Rhino Darksider #304 the force is strong in this one. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 12:03 pm | 13th Post |
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No news like OLD news eh Dave .......
____________________ Retired Paramedic - 35 years. If I"m riding - life is good ......Never had a bad" day riding...Just some better than others!! Double Darksider # 1138 - with Dynabeads 30,000 miles from my Formosa, '96 GL 1500 SE - 220,000 km.... (8,000 km 2011 year) - Goodyear Assurance '84 Shadow VT 750c - 32,000 km ( 14,000 km 2011 year) - BF Goodrich Radial TA '90 Suzuki Intruder 750 - 88,000 km .... (Gone) '85 GL 1200 Aspencade - 185,000 km (Gone) '83 Shadow 500 ( Gone) '70 Kawasaki KE-125 (Gone) '?? Suzuki 80 ( Gone) 2010 Alps tour pic's http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx164/96se/Alps_2010/ Spot Tracker "http://www.spotadventures.com/trip/view?trip_id=225807">Alps http://www.drivingskills.on.ca skype - bob.joynt |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 04:18 pm | 14th Post |
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Darkside is old stuff. 3400 problem free miles since I put the evil tire on the 1800. 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 05:52 pm | 15th Post |
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I'll give you guys a report real soon. A Dunlop Austere 175R-16 is waiting for me at home. Will pull the rear wheel & have it mounted tomorrow or Saturday. I went with this tire because there is no height loss, it is actually a touch taller than stock. It is also a 6-ply so the sidewall "wiggle" the Formoza users were mentioning should not be there. This is for my new to me 1500 BTW. Last edited on Thu Jul 21st, 2011 05:55 pm by lopeha ____________________ Andy 1983 GL1100 Vetter Fairing, Bags & Trunk MOTAD Stainless Exhaust 1993 GL1500 Interstate  "Always have a smile on your face, makes everyone else think you're getting away with something" If you woke up this morning, don't complain - You woke up! "It's amazing how much good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit." |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 06:07 pm | 16th Post |
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jjolly wrote: Darkside is old stuff. So is this thread. It was started in March of 2008! 96aspencade wrote: Actually if you watch Wexy's video you do not ride up on the corner of the tire when cornering, the tread is flexible and still leaves more rubber on the road than your M/C tire. Actually for me, Wexy's video helped me to decide that I don't want to run a car tire. Although I saw some flexing of the CT in the video on mild corners, the more agressive corners were taking it up onto the outer edges of the tread where the tire does not normally run, and the contact patch looks to be smaller than it is with an MC tire. Look at the video at 1:30, 1:35, 2:28, 2:43 & 3:32 to see what I am referring to, and from what I can tell, he never got to the peg scraping angle. I also recently talked with a friend that is running a CT he openly admitted he is not happy with the performance. He said it is more work in the corners and follows the ruts in the road like crazy. I understand the reasons people go to a CT but I'm not convinced it's the right decision for me. John
____________________  Blue 2000 GL1500SE Bought with just under 9000 miles on 08/19/2008 also 84 Aspy 84 Interstate past 86 GL1200 Aspy 84 Standard 87 Interstate 80 Yam Midnight Special 1100 79 Suz SP400 Enduro 72 Honda SL350 81 Honda XR500 |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 07:53 pm | 17th Post |
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I've been using Dunlop Wintersport Run On Flats (ROF) Radial rears for the past year now... No modification required to the rim.
____________________ I void warranties GL1500 (1990SE, 2000SE), Piaggio MP3-500 Dark Side #590, 175/60/16 Dunlop Wintersport ROF, 41psi |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 10:23 pm | 18th Post |
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Dubswing wrote: What happens when you lean into a curve and you are riding on the edge of the tire? It isn't rounded like a motorcycle tire, you have less available traction, you will wear that area of the tire much faster, and that area will be flexing much more than it was intended to do. I will stick with the motorcycle tire. Rather be safe than sorry. I run darkside on both of my bikes and I believe if you actually lean enough to get up on the "edge" of the tire you are too far over and on your way for a not so pleasant of ride, if you know what I mean. I've now had my wing so far over I scraped the pegs, scared the crap out of me, on turns I always take and never did scrape before. The VTX handles like a champ too. I don'[t take the X up to too great a speed as I have a wobble because I bought a cheap tire when I did not know for sure if it would work, so I would'nt be out a bunch of money. The darksider community was just coming on. This year or next I'll put a new tire on that has a better speed rating than this Cooper Lifeliner I have.   
____________________ If I had know grankids were this much fun, I would have had them FIRST!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 10:29 pm | 19th Post |
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Jluvs2dive wrote: jjolly wrote:"follows the ruts in the road like crazy. " I'll agree with htis but only in that it follows the ruts when I'm going slow like at an intersection and so on. I drive over grated bridge decks regularly and nary a problem, even at speed. Both of my bikes are darksiders and the VTX has been for years and I love it. It take a SMALL bit of adjusting but nothing anyone can't handle, BUT, to each his own. Riding a motorcycle is serious business and if one is not comfortable with a particular thing then he should avoid it at all costs. Certainly don't need another distraction.Darkside is old stuff.
____________________ If I had know grankids were this much fun, I would have had them FIRST!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 12:22 am | 20th Post |
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lopeha wrote: I'll give you guys a report real soon. A Dunlop Austere 175R-16 is waiting for me at home. Will pull the rear wheel & have it mounted tomorrow or Saturday. I went with this tire because there is no height loss, it is actually a touch taller than stock. It is also a 6-ply so the sidewall "wiggle" the Formoza users were mentioning should not be there. This is for my new to me 1500 BTW. Where'd you pick up that tire? They told me they were out of stock until mid-week next week!?
____________________ Lawrence '98 Valkyrie - current '97 1500SE (Austone Taxi Tire) - current |
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