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redgoldwing06
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 02:59 pm | 61st Post |
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If you do decide on the Goldwing but like the sound of a Harley, (I will find out the site), but, they do have pipes for the goldwing that you can hit a switch to open the baffles or close them. That way you can have the best of both worlds, if you like that loud sound for hours.
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confish86
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 03:33 pm | 62nd Post |
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redgoldwing06 wrote: If you do decide on the Goldwing but like the sound of a Harley, (I will find out the site), but, they do have pipes for the goldwing that you can hit a switch to open the baffles or close them. That way you can have the best of both worlds, if you like that loud sound for hours.
I just checked it was removed off u-tube 
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Del Que
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 10:54 pm | 63rd Post |
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redgoldwing06 wrote: If you do decide on the Goldwing but like the sound of a Harley, (I will find out the site), but, they do have pipes for the goldwing that you can hit a switch to open the baffles or close them. That way you can have the best of both worlds, if you like that loud sound for hours.
Thank you, but I wouldn't be interested in that. I like the quiet. My bike (Harley) has a nice sound when you're cruising, but it's not loud and I wouldn't want it to be. The quiet is one of the things I like about the Goldwing.
Rick
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Kit Carson
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 10:55 am | 64th Post |
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Yes .......the stock Harley Davidson has very well designed exhaust. They are not as quiet as a Wing.......but they are just a Mellow sound.....not loud......just enough to let you hear the sound and know you are on a motorcycle.
It is those aftermarket open drag pipes that really bounce the pressure waves out of the exhaust.
Another thing you will notice.....the guys who stick with the stock exhaust.....are the ones who get the good service and high mileage out of the bikes........the fellows that put the open drag pipes on the bikes.....and do the top end modifications....are the ones that end up rebuilding their motors. It is hard to tune the bike to the richness required for open pipes on a fuel injected engine.........so that leads to a lot of carbon build up.....I may be wrong......but I think that is why some of the bikes have major problems early, something is causing all the carbon to build up......in the fuel injected bikes......so that is my guess of the why. Kit
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AZgl1500
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 11:40 am | 65th Post |
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This comment has nothing to do with the bikes. But rather with attitude.
Yesterday morning my wife and I came up behind a couple in the mid 30's out for a cruise on a beautiful highway for doing that. The Beeline between Mesa, AZ and Payson, AZ.
What really bothered us both was the lack of protective gear. Especially with the lady. Thin blouse and nothing on her arms or legs.
And her feet? Sandals! The bike? It was a pretty thing, said Triumph on the gas tank. Well maintained from the looks of it, not the riders.
We just wished them well in getting home with all the skin still on their arms.
My Wing? Loved it. No noise except for tires on pavement. Cruise and radio and effortless riding.
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Kit Carson
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 12:43 pm | 66th Post |
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AZgl1500 wrote: This comment has nothing to do with the bikes. But rather with attitude.
Yesterday morning my wife and I came up behind a couple in the mid 30's out for a cruise on a beautiful highway for doing that. The Beeline between Mesa, AZ and Payson, AZ.
What really bothered us both was the lack of protective gear. Especially with the lady. Thin blouse and nothing on her arms or legs.
And her feet? Sandals! The bike? It was a pretty thing, said Triumph on the gas tank. Well maintained from the looks of it, not the riders.
We just wished them well in getting home with all the skin still on their arms.
My Wing? Loved it. No noise except for tires on pavement. Cruise and radio and effortless riding. That is part of the deal with ownership of a Harley. My buddy Cayce is a mechanic at a harley shop.......he will not wear a helmet at all. A couple of my other friends ride harleys......they were over here last week and we installed a new alternator on one bike(backwards the first time-hey they gave me beer!!!!) I have at times suggested to them to wear a helmet.....at least a half helmet. Nope........so I just live and let live, it is just the deal that goes with riding a Harley.......they are good guys, love to laugh, and joke......and drink beer.
Maybe it is not all bad......life is life......there are no guarantees........I like to try to manage risk......but the freedom of spirit......that spit in your eye attitude.....I suppose it is all cool......we all take a chance.....in many cases a helmet will save your life...I know this.....it has saved mine.
I had another friend who quit smoking......went on a diet........lost 30 pounds.......and got crushed under a loading dock lift working on the lift........so there are not any guarantees....
Yes I understand our concerns seeing those with no protective gear.........but I hold them no malice........if I get the chance I will aways suggest it to them........
I like protective gear.......I fear getting seriously hurt worse than death itself. I hope it it ever happens to me.....it does a good job......I really do not wish to sit in a wheelchair. Kit
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Dave44142
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 03:28 am | 67th Post |
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I also switched over to a Car tire on the rear.
The wing will out handle that Electra glide hands down.
The power of the Wing is much better than the glide.
100+ hp vs 75 hp???? something like that. Bigger gas tank. I can easily ride 250 miles on a tank. HD might get around 150. This was on mine though.
I am asking about the car tire. What is the reason to use a car tire and is it as safe as a tire made for a Motorcycle? does it help or hurt the handeling? dave
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MDKramer
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 05:43 am | 68th Post |
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Dave44142 wrote:I am asking about the car tire. What is the reason to use a car tire and is it as safe as a tire made for a Motorcycle? does it help or hurt the handeling? dave
Dave,
There are people on both sides of the fence on this question, and the can of worms you may have just opened will be fun to observe.
Basically, those who have switched over report that although you lose a little bit of the nimble of a Goldwing because you have to push it over on the shoulder of a car tire a little harder than over the rounded cup of the bike tire, you gain a tire that will wear far longer than any motorcycle tire because car tire technology is constantly being improved with the advent of street racers with low-profile tires, whereas the motorcycle tire technology has been pretty much the same for the last 15 years or so.
Mike
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Del Que
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 06:56 am | 69th Post |
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I don't think I'd want to give up any of the nimble, but it brings to mind another question. How many miles do the tires generally last on the Goldwing (1800)? I get about 12,000 with the Electra-Glide. I posted a message on the V-Twin forum to ask what other Harleys got and I got answers all over the place. Some more, some less. Hard to pick up a pattern. For me it's about 12K.
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William_86
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 07:04 am | 70th Post |
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| for me, a harley to ride around town and short distances, and a goldwing for road trips.
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Kit Carson
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 11:09 am | 71st Post |
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For those who wish to know about the use of a car tire on a motorcycle. Just be patient. I am from time to time experimenting with them. I have a friend who just did almost 9000 miles on one. He also runs a standard rear tire on the front for longer wear. I have rode his bike.......I have rode other bikes with car tires installed.
I also continue to investigate the insurance situation in regards to the use of a car tire.
There have been some recent advancements in car tires that are quite beneficial. There are also still some drawbacks. So one day, when I think I know all the answers, I will fully answer this question. At the moment I am still learning. I have no wish to ever put another rider in harms way, so I am looking at this issue very hard.
Meanwhile.....the modern radial tires on the newer motorcycles, with proper care and checks of tire pressure......seem to be lasting for most riders an average of 13 to 15 thousand miles....still with workable tread left......
At the present time the small advantage in tire life you may gain.......and the different answers you get and opinions on the insurance issues.......and the slight loss of balance and somewhat different handling of the bike.......at the present time, I still prefer the good ole motorcycle tire.
Why do we ride a bike? Is it not enjoyable to run the twisties or the long sweepers and feel the balance and power of a big machine?
I will step forward and say.......you do loose some of that balance and perfect handling you have with the 1800 with the use of a car tire......it is not bad.....just different......but just the same it is like night and day. And I much prefer the motorcycle tire.
Kit
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Blackdog
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 05:39 pm | 72nd Post |
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Kit Carson wrote: For those who wish to know about the use of a car tire on a motorcycle. Just be patient. I am from time to time experimenting with them. I have a friend who just did almost 9000 miles on one. He also runs a standard rear tire on the front for longer wear. I have rode his bike.......I have rode other bikes with car tires installed.
I also continue to investigate the insurance situation in regards to the use of a car tire.
There have been some recent advancements in car tires that are quite beneficial. There are also still some drawbacks. So one day, when I think I know all the answers, I will fully answer this question. At the moment I am still learning. I have no wish to ever put another rider in harms way, so I am looking at this issue very hard.
Meanwhile.....the modern radial tires on the newer motorcycles, with proper care and checks of tire pressure......seem to be lasting for most riders an average of 13 to 15 thousand miles....still with workable tread left......
At the present time the small advantage in tire life you may gain.......and the different answers you get and opinions on the insurance issues.......and the slight loss of balance and somewhat different handling of the bike.......at the present time, I still prefer the good ole motorcycle tire.
Why do we ride a bike? Is it not enjoyable to run the twisties or the long sweepers and feel the balance and power of a big machine?
I will step forward and say.......you do loose some of that balance and perfect handling you have with the 1800 with the use of a car tire......it is not bad.....just different......but just the same it is like night and day. And I much prefer the motorcycle tire.
Kit
Had a friend check this out pretty thoroughly on his Victory Hammer. He had a hard time admitting it was not a fun ride at all and eventually gave it up after about 3 months of trial (he rides long and often). I followed him a few times and it seemed like straight in highway running was fine. Cornering not so. Especially at low speed. At low speed (like highway onramps and intersections) I noticed the cornered profile if the car tire seemed to grab any cracks, pits or potholes in the road. Caused the rear end to jump a bit while cornering/turning. But I will be curious how it rins on a wing. Would be great to get more life out of the rubbers  Last edited on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 05:40 pm by Blackdog
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Axisman1
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 11:53 pm | 73rd Post |
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| The Goldwing has more american made parts than the Harley. Put a Harely next to a Goldwing, both idling, when it is 100 degrees out and see which one will last longer. A Goldwing has reverse and a lot more speed and power. I'm not crazy about the Idea of having to take off 6 miles of plastic for maintenance. On newer Harelys I am starting to see more aproaching 100,000 miles without a rebiuld, but on a Goldwing 200,000 miles with no rebiuld isn't even a question.
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Blackdog
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 11:51 pm | 74th Post |
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Axisman1 wrote: The Goldwing has more american made parts than the Harley.
I don't doubt you here - but do you have any creditable source for this? I would love it to be true for when I talk to my "American V-Twin" buddies I can speak authoritatively on the issue. I even went out to the 'net and could not find anything than owners claims. Do you have a link somewhere that says this? Thanks.
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britman
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 07:53 pm | 75th Post |
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A bike is a bike if it's a Harley or Goldwing just ride what you like .
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Blackdog
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:56 pm | 76th Post |
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This might help a bit - from motorcycle.com comparison tool - across brands:
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Posted: Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 03:06 am | 77th Post |
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I really appreciate all the help and comments from this forum. You people are COOL! I am really learning a lot about the Goldwings. This is FUN!!!!
Rick
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Posted: Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 11:23 pm | 78th Post |
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I find it interesting, over and over again, I see people compare the Gold Wing to Harley Davidson. Comparing an entire brand to just one model series. People talking about how many Harley's they see on the road compared to how many Gold Wings they see on the road. Or how many Harley's a dealer sells compared to how many Gold Wings a dealer sells. And so on.
I am not very well familiar with Harley, and I suspect that the Ultra Glide is the equivalent model to the Gold Wing. Comparing a Harley dealer to a Honda dealer, you would have to include all the Honda's, the sport bikes and the cruiser types, and so on.
You get the idea. Anyway, I just wanted to point that out, because I see it all the time.
I have a co-worker that when he first saw my GW, he said: Nice hog.... I corrected him and pointed out that it was a Gold Wing. He said: Oh, that's Honda's version of the Harley anyway.
Perception is so important to so many people.
As for me, I have only a little more than ZERO experience with Harley's. But I think they are beautiful bikes. I would gladly own one if I could afford one.
When I started riding again, I started out on a little Honda 550 and I needed to move up. At the time I was looking at a Sportster for $6,000, and a Honda Shadow for $5,000. I was leaning toward the Shadow for price reasons. But while I was shopping, the salesman at the dealership showed me 2 used Wings he had, an 1100 for $2500 and a really clean 1200 for $3500.
I couldn't believe I found a bike as nice as a Gold Wing for only $3500. For me it was about the money. No way I could have found an equivalent Harley for that kind of money. I ended up getting 75,000 miles on that bike and when I sold it, it had over 150,000 miles on it.
Again when I bought my 1500, I have a really nice bike for a good price. I have a lot of features and creature comforts, it's a really loaded bike, and comparatively less money. Maybe not, as I didn't look at Harley's this time around. But to get a really clean Ultra Glide, even 11 years old, that still has a lot of life left in it? I wonder what it would cost?
Not just any 11 year old Harley, but a Harley with full fairing, windshield, trunk and saddle bags, Integrated AM/FM Cassette radio, CB radio, intercom, cruise control, reverse, adjustable passenger foot rests... and so on... Dollar for dollar what would that cost?
About 9 years ago I went with Honda because I got a lot of bike for what I could afford. There were other reasons too, such as I found a group of Honda riders that ride like I like to ride. (Heck, I became the chapter president)
2 1/2 years ago I stayed with Honda because of the same reason. (And I'm the chapter president again...  .)
But I am not in the price range that the "Big Boys" play in. If I were buying new, you are talking about $25,000 for a fully loaded 1800. Again, how much is an EQUIVALENT Harley? I don't even know, because I am not shopping for one. But I believe that the equvalently equipped bike would be more. Am I wrong on this?
For me everything has a value and a price. I think that the Harley name is a value in itself, and that value changes from day to day and based on who you are riding with. I chose not to spend money on that part of the value because that part of the value didn't do anything for me.
Any item is worth only what someone is willing to pay for it. For me, I have a taste for more motorcycle than my budget can afford, and to get it I had to go to an older motorcycle. And since I had to go to an older motorcycle, I found the Gold Wing met my needs better.
That being said, given the chance, I'd be just as happy riding a Harley, just as long as I could afford the one that was the top-of-the-line fully loaded model that was set up for comfortably riding 600+ mile days as well as group riding (CB radio is a must for me).
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AZgl1500
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 02:49 am | 79th Post |
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Well said Wolfman. I can relate to every word of that post. I also wanted a nice, comfortable ride without all of the noise and "cloak and dagger" I saw riding on the Harleys around here.
So, it was the Goldwing. Never regretted it either.
In fact, I think the bigness and strength of the 1500 is what saved my life last January. I clung onto it for dear life, and it saved me.
It didn't hurt to have a few Angels riding with me either. 
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 08:41 am | 80th Post |
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Just to clear the air on Harley names, the Electra-Glide is Harley's top touring bike. It would be the Harley equivalent of the Goldwing. There are three bikes in the family. The Electra-Glide Standard, Electra-Glide Classic, and the Ultra-Classic Electra-Glide, which is the top of the line. They are all the same basic bike, but with different levels of goodies (similar to the Goldwings). The Ultra-Classic has almost everything as standard equipment, while the others have some of the equipment available as options, or not at all. The price goes up accordingly, just like the Goldwings. All three bike would have the same chassis, engine, transmission, etc. They all would have the same ride and comfort. It's just a matter of how many goodies you want.... just like the Goldwings.
In my opinion, the Goldwing and the Electra-Glide are quite comparable in ride and comfort. Goldwing people always bitch about the vibration of the Harley, and when you are sitting at a stop light they do shake. But when you're out on the road, that's where they shine. That legendary vibration is not a problem. They are a pure pleasure to ride, even at the end of a long day. The Goldwing may be the elite touring bike to some, but the Electra-Glide does not need to duck it's head to ANY motorcycle. I have ridden motorcycles since I was 16 years old. I am now 57. I had no idea that riding could be so much fun until I bought this Electra-Glide. I respect the Goldwing, and I wouldn't rule out owning one someday, but Thou Shalt Not badmouth the Electra-Glide. That is one fine motorcycle too.
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