| Radial MC tire on 1500 | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 13th, 2008 02:30 pm | 1st Post |
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Is it safe to run a radial MC tire on the rear of a 1500? I bought a wheel that already has a new Bridgestone radial on it. I know it is supposed to have belted tires but are there any facts as to why not give it a try? I have heard about them being mounted by accident. Was there any problems from running them? Looking for someone who actually tried it, the results, and actual facts. All that I can find out seems to be pure speculation........Thanks for any actual info you can provide on this......  Last edited on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 07:56 am by runnincircles33 ____________________ I ride a Goldwing because I am too old to push a......anything else. '85 LTD and '89 Wineberry |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 13th, 2008 02:37 pm | 2nd Post |
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as i understand it ---do not run radial and baise ply tires togather. you willget some wierd handling problems .
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| Posted: Sat Sep 13th, 2008 04:24 pm | 3rd Post |
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A search of the forums here will provide some good information. Mostly the rim is designed for bias ply tires and there is risk of radial tires not staying on the rim in high speed cornering or at least that's how I understand it.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 07:28 am | 4th Post |
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Thanks for the replies. Does anyone know of any actual problems that have been encountered while running a radial on a 1500? Looking for facts.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 09:08 am | 5th Post |
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There was an issue several years ago with Michelin radial tires that were made for the GL1500 Goldwings. They were said to have a high speed wobble that had resulted in crashes. Most of the problem became evident when towing trailers. Some folks blamed the owners for failing to maintain proper tire pressure and brought the problem on themselves. Some other folks also claimed that the GL1500's were not designed to pull trailers and that if you drove the bike as designed, there were no problems. However, because of the crashes in the US, lawsuits were filed. As a result, Michelin refuses to sell radial tires for the GL1500 Goldwings in the US. I believe that Michelin still offers them overseas but not here. I know that radials are available for the Valkyries but those rims will not work on the Goldwings without major modifications. It is said that the suspension for the GL1500 Goldwings was not designed for the radials and the lip of the rim is meant for bias ply instead of radial.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 10:10 am | 6th Post |
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You won't need radials if you use the Michelin Pilot-GT tire.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 03:36 pm | 7th Post |
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runnincircles33 wrote: Is it safe to run a radial MC tire on the rear of a 1500? I bought a wheel that already has a new Bridgestone radial on it. I know it is supposed to have belted tires but are there any facts as to why not give it a try? I have heard about them being mounted by accident. Was there any problems from running them? Looking for someone who actually tried it, the results, and actual facts. All that I can find out seems to be pure speculation........Thanks for any actual info you can provide on this...... hi, don't mean to start a flaming issue here but if you intend on keeping the sickle for any length of time you might want to consider a HT wheel with a 165R15 tire(vw beetle), i have been running one for 3 yrs, i did a 15,579 round trip from delaware to alaska and back the long way on one tire and consider it the best mod i ever did to my 1500, no problems whatsoever in three yrs, run it as a 2 wheeler and a 3 wheeler(hack), works GREAT and the mileage is unreal, don't need to hear everyone's angered comments as i have ACTUALLY DONE IT, not just read about it, he also does 1100 and 1200 wheels and i am not affiliated with HT, pricey but well worth it if you are are to keep the bike any length of time. if you want more info on it contact me offline and that way i won't anger too many folks. have a good rest of your life rate Last edited on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 03:37 pm by rate ____________________ I LIVE MY LIFE LIKE A DOG, I SMELL IT, IF I CAN'T EAT IT OR SCREW IT, I JUST PISS ON IT AND WALK AWAY |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 03:56 pm | 8th Post |
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rate wrote: runnincircles33 wrote:Is it safe to run a radial MC tire on the rear of a 1500? I bought a wheel that already has a new Bridgestone radial on it. I know it is supposed to have belted tires but are there any facts as to why not give it a try? I have heard about them being mounted by accident. Was there any problems from running them? Looking for someone who actually tried it, the results, and actual facts. All that I can find out seems to be pure speculation........Thanks for any actual info you can provide on this...... I promise not to do angry.... but please, what is an HT wheel...... I just know I am gonna keck myself for not knowing when you say  I am probably in the camp of using the tyres that were designed for the bike,but that is not to say I mind what anyone else does, it's a free life.....well just about!!! 
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 04:59 pm | 9th Post |
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Thanks to all replies. What I really need to know is if I can run the Bridgestone radial that is already mounted on a 1500 wheel without the sky falling on me or something. 
____________________ I ride a Goldwing because I am too old to push a......anything else. '85 LTD and '89 Wineberry |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 05:09 pm | 10th Post |
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Well the only Wing that was designed with running a radial in mind is the 1800, all the others were made to have bias ply on them. For a definitive answer I would approach Bridgestone to see if they okay it or not. Since the tyres are the only thing between you and the asphalt, I don't think I personally would rely on anything but raw data from the folks who make the tyres.
____________________ Pete http://www.rblr.co.uk '06 GL1800 '77 GL1000 Executive |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 05:36 pm | 11th Post |
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I can only give my opinion, since I have never done it myself. Likewise, I suspect that 99.9 percent of the people here can only offer opinion since I would be willing to bet they have never done it either. My best friend had an 1800 radial tire on the front of his 1500, (accidently installed). After he discovered it, he left and wore the whole thing out and never had a problem. At the time he had a bias on the rear. Now he found a new radial for the rear. Michelin x79 radial. He is running it right now and he has a bias on the front. He rides very hard, peg scrapping on the twisties, and he has never had a problem yet.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 05:48 pm | 12th Post |
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Silverfox wrote: rate wrote:hi pete, iwill not hi-jack this thread so i am going to e-mail you pics and what info i have, i will use the e-mail address in your profile. have a good rest of your life raterunnincircles33 wrote:Is it safe to run a radial MC tire on the rear of a 1500? I bought a wheel that already has a new Bridgestone radial on it. I know it is supposed to have belted tires but are there any facts as to why not give it a try? I have heard about them being mounted by accident. Was there any problems from running them? Looking for someone who actually tried it, the results, and actual facts. All that I can find out seems to be pure speculation........Thanks for any actual info you can provide on this......
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 05:56 pm | 13th Post |
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I shall be interested rate.
____________________ Pete http://www.rblr.co.uk '06 GL1800 '77 GL1000 Executive |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 09:59 pm | 14th Post |
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Thanks!!! That is exactly the kind of info that I wanted. Now that I know that the sky will not fall on me I will have to try it since I allready have one mounted. 
____________________ I ride a Goldwing because I am too old to push a......anything else. '85 LTD and '89 Wineberry |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15th, 2008 01:22 am | 15th Post |
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I have read about the wheel mod. and might try it later. Right now I am trying to determine if I can safely run the combo that I just bought. I am not afraid to try something new. I just don't want to try something thas been proven to NOT work. Thanks!
____________________ I ride a Goldwing because I am too old to push a......anything else. '85 LTD and '89 Wineberry |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15th, 2008 02:42 am | 16th Post |
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99 1500SE here - Dunlop E3 radials front and back. Local Honda dealer installs quite a few radials on 1500s and so far no incidents. However - from my past experience with 4 wheeled vehicles, I would be wary of running a radial on the back and bias on the front. Both or neither in my book. Doc
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15th, 2008 03:40 am | 17th Post |
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Thank You!  Last edited on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 03:41 am by runnincircles33 ____________________ I ride a Goldwing because I am too old to push a......anything else. '85 LTD and '89 Wineberry |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 03:40 am | 18th Post |
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 OK.........I have my flame suit on so here we go.......I just ran the 1800 radial on my 1500. I did not crash and burn. In fact, the 1500 has never felt any better! So far I love it. It is as wide as you can run without rubbing. It is not as tall as the 1500 tire so it gave a lot better acceleration and less lug at 55 in overdrive. It turns 2500 rpm at 55 mph. That does not seem much differant than the 1500 tire, however I don't remember exactly what it did turn before. I am not saying that anyone should try it but so far I like the smoother ride of the radial. The seat height is about a half inch lower. It turns up the rpms much quicker. It feels real good in the twisties, has a very stable feel. The fat tire looks good on there. Other than possibly hurting the fuel mileage I have not seen any problems thus far.
____________________ I ride a Goldwing because I am too old to push a......anything else. '85 LTD and '89 Wineberry |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 05:19 am | 19th Post |
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I would be curious to know how the bead is made on the radial tires that are mounted on your 1500. The original wheels are made to be fitted to a bias ply tire, and the shape of the bead to wheel mating surfaces are different on radial and bias ply tires. I would highly suggest that you keep the tire pressures always above 40 psi. If you ever let them go down, I feel that they will abandon ship a lot quicker than a bias ply tire would. JMHO
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| Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 06:12 am | 20th Post |
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The 1800 wheel is about 1.5 inches wider than the 1500 so with the wider tire squeezed onto the narrow wheel I don't see any problem with it staying clinched. Even at very low pressure.
____________________ I ride a Goldwing because I am too old to push a......anything else. '85 LTD and '89 Wineberry |
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