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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:07 pm | 1st Post |
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Does anyone out there have experience or opinions on Goldwing trike conversions: CSC vs Lehman. I've heard all the advantages in the straight axle Lehman but would like to have some opinions on which one you feel might be better. I own a 2009 GL1800 and am going to trike it. Thanks in advance.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:22 pm | 2nd Post |
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Bill, you should post this question in the General Motorcycle section, you will get a lot more results. Have a good day. Last edited on Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:22 pm by SpiderBob ____________________ Spider Bob GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY, GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps, it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away." Patriot Guard Rider |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:25 pm | 3rd Post |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:28 pm | 4th Post |
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Thanks SpyderBob, will do...
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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 07:01 pm | 5th Post |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 09:45 pm | 6th Post |
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Bill, sense you have not done it yet, just check out http://www.Championtrikes.com . You might be surprised. I was at the factory a couple of weeks ago and they have something new for the 1800 and it is awesome. On their torque bar they have a handle bar mounted electrical switch to a motor that changes the ride for their independent suspension for either mountain riding or highway riding. It takes a flat bar and the motor turns it to 10 different positions which changes the torque on the torsion bar form soft to rigid. Just look at it, no one else in the market has this yet. I was drooling when I saw it. As for the others, they are great. Lehman has been making headlines with theirs. And California Side Car the same. It's all in the price. They are all excellent. But..... just check out Champion. I might also add that "Wingworld" magazine has some awesome articals on "Trike Choices and What's New in the Industry" you might want to check out. Last edited on Fri Aug 7th, 2009 09:48 pm by SpiderBob ____________________ Spider Bob GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY, GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps, it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away." Patriot Guard Rider |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 03:41 am | 7th Post |
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Thanks again SpiderBob I'll get right on it. I have been pretty close to doing the Lehman trike at Timm's Trikes in St. Charles, MN. This guy has an awesome reputation as a trike builder and has me almost sold on the Lehman conversion which is why I joined your forum to get some extra input. We are at our Wisconsin home and am having our GL shipped up from Florida to do the conversion. We go back to Florida the first of October so I'm getting short on time. I really appreciate your advise as I have never been a trike owner and have only been on one once for about a total of 2 miles and a few figure eights. Anything you can give me will be greatly appreciated.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 06:03 am | 8th Post |
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I'm interested in this also. My situation with the wife only having one good leg makes a trike a strong possibility. I will want the best pillion rider comfort obtainable. I've heard that the independent suspension systems are "too complicated", but is that just the builder not wanting to take the time to build that type? I want performance, don't care how long it takes to put it together.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 06:31 am | 9th Post |
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The opinions I am getting is that a solid axle has better performance than the independents. Of course I am only talking to a solid axle dealer. It appears that Harley and Victory are endorcing Lehman which is solid axle. Should that tell us something? I'm still pretty green on the topic.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 08:04 am | 10th Post |
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I think that the dealer is biased to the product that he wants to move. What I want to hear is the "voice of experience" on the different style trike setups. Independent suspension has done great things for making a car handle better. Why should it not help a trike handle better. My opinion is that if only the right wheel dropped into a hole and popped back out, it ought not change the direction of the trike, and should give a smoother ride. Is this just a wild idea, or does 3 wheels handle differently than 4 ? Now, there is yet a 2nd option available. The new Can Am Spyder has 2 wheels in the front. Is offering fully computerized control of the trike's balance, ABS braking, computerized steering inputs driving the steering motors. Add to the above is the fully electronic shift transmission. Push a button, upshift. Pull that button, downshift. This has me wanting to go look at one of them for my wife. She could feel comfortable with fully computerized braking with the brake on the right handle bar grip just like on our Goldwings. This feature disables the foot brake, in fact, the pedal is gone. The squeeze pressure for the hand braking can be programmed to account for the owner's hand strength. Exactly what she needs. Also it has a huge front trunk for storing the shopping items.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 02:19 pm | 11th Post |
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i was looking around , as too whats out there and so forth. gezzzz ---a guy can have more in a trike than he paid for his house. i`m talking new here.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 03:45 pm | 12th Post |
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I've tried the Can Am Spider with semi auto transmission and have to say I was uninspired. For me as least the seating position was uncomfortable, I tried it with their largest windshield (which is like a mini fairing) and the protection was poor. I didn't like the auto trans and found it pretty clunky an loud. The thing makes lots of power and winds very high, if I remember correctly, red line was around 9,000. My biggest concern about the Spider was the steering, I thought it had way too much over steer, way too quick. I felt as though I needed to lean into corners more than I would like to keep from being pitched off of the thing. Maybe this is just my lack of experience with this kind of trike. I'm not saying the Can Am is a poor product, these are just my personal observations.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 04:52 pm | 13th Post |
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If your up at Als shop in St Charles youre in pretty capable hands. If all trike manufacturers built their trikes like AL did you would never hear of any complaints. I had issues with mine from the dealer in Chicago where I bought it so the factory recommended a second dealer.After issues with the 2nd dealer and some input from another trike board I wound up by Al and Jan. After Al and Mike had gone over her she was like another trike and Ive never had another problem since.Hes 346 miles from the house and I still do business with him. My wife and I 2 weeks ago just got back from Ca visiting my son.We did 11 states,5530 miles in 17 days, and in the past year weve done a little over 16,000 miles on our Lehman and would have no problems buying another.If you want to find out about CSCs go over to GL1800riders.com subforums for trikes and search for CSC and see what comes up.Weve been very happy with our Lehman its not high tech like the IRS suspensions,but with the suspension that Lehman has on their trikes I cannot complain about the ride. I have 2 bad discs in my lower back and have had days in the saddle where Ive averaged over 550 miles a day with no complaints.Also in a Lehman if you loose a U joint you can go to NAPA or a similar store and get a replacement. CSC you have to go to the dealer to get the parts. When you see Al and Jan again tell them Mike and Alice say HI!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2009 02:50 am | 14th Post |
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I owned a 1500 motortrike for several yrs. and now own a DFT. There is no comparison as the ride goes. The irs of the DFT is far superior. I would say though if you ride mostly on curves that the solid axle suspension does perform better in that situation. If you are concerned about the comfort of you passenger then you should strongly consider an IRS trike.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2009 03:56 am | 15th Post |
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That is where Champion has come up with the best of both worlds. Their torsion bar is adjustable right from the handlebar for the independent suspension. You can adjust on the fly for either highway or mountains. Nice setup.
____________________ Spider Bob GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY, GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps, it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away." Patriot Guard Rider |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 01:29 am | 16th Post |
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I have a 2003 1800 Lehman trike and I love it.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 08:51 am | 17th Post |
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CSC is by far the best, but I would say that 'cos we have one. We absolutely love it. It is the best looker, the best handler and the best engineering. It retains the ABS and the adjustable rear suspension. Yeah, everyone thinks theirs is the best don't they. You need to get round the dealers and make up your own mind I'm afraid, but I do think you need to choose one with IRS.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 10:14 am | 18th Post |
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Hi all my concern with trike conversions is in the reverse,myself and pillion have disability issues.We also have trailer tent as well 250kg loaded.I can get a live axle conversion but will have to keep with original electric reverse.Trike shop is independent suspension but can add gear reverse onto shaft at build stage but this is obviously alot more money;have you ever had reverse problems with the goldwings electric reverse AL
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 01:01 pm | 19th Post |
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Al, my trike has reverse and I have had no problems with it.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 03:31 pm | 20th Post |
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Dear BigMick, Thanks for your reply, your milege is impressive. Mary and I visited Al and Jan yesterday and we did say HI for you. They remember you fondly. We are struggling with spending 18 grand to turn our 2009 Goldwing into a trike. Our other option is to spend 2 thousand dollars less and trade the 1800 for a new 2010 Harley Tri Glide which is pretty much a Lehman conversion from what I understand. Not knowing much about trikes and just a little baby test ride in front of Al's shop really doesn't give much of a perspective of what I can expect of the difference between owning a trike or a bike. I have a Harley Heritage Softail Classic that I use for fun and riding with the guys so I was thinking that the trike would be a good long distance platform for Mary and I, maybe more relaxing than long distance on a two wheeler. I've been out of biking for 18 years and restarted this past spring but I did own a Honda, Suzuki, BMW dealership for 20 years back in the 70's and 80's so I have quite a bit of experience riding although it toke me some time to get fimiliar again. Any tips, pointers, advice you can offer will be greatly appreciated.
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