| Trike in Canada - How to make it legal? | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 09:10 pm | 1st Post |
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Hie, my father in-law was misled to convert his 1800 as a trike. The guy (in Mn, US) at the shop said he would not have any problem to bring it across the border. He checked with one custom officer and was told that as long as he could insure it it would be OK. Well he went along with it and last Thursday, we could not cross the border.... We had to leave it in ND until we figure out what to do. Any ideas anybody. Thanks!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 09:12 pm | 2nd Post |
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I don't know, but I changed the title just a bit to help pull in some knowledgeable folks.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 11:26 pm | 3rd Post |
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What was the specific reason the customs agent would not let you cross the border with the trike? Here is a Motorcycle dealer that does trike conversions in your province. http://www.lehmantrikes.com/default.aspx?navid=18&search=1&bname=&brand=&country=4&state=53 You might get some help from them if no one here has an answer.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 03:30 am | 4th Post |
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Thanks for the info! I will check it out.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 05:05 am | 5th Post |
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put it on a trailer, Have your paperwork completed by a broker at the border. bring it into Canada and get it certified. than you can plate it and your legal!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 05:22 am | 6th Post |
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There are brokers at the Emerson crossing. They are located in the building just east of the 75/I29, south side of the road heading toward Emerson and just north of the US border.
____________________ Lawrence '98 Valkyrie - current '97 1500SE (Austone Taxi Tire) - current '87 Aspencade '86 Interstate '83 Interstate '81 Silverwing '86 Venture Royale '84 450 Nighthawk '78 Wing '75 500T '74 CB350 |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 03:13 pm | 7th Post |
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good luck on this on!!1 You cannot import modified M/cycles at all from what I have heard. The mods must be done here???? Put back to stock or some semblance of stock; trailer it in; paper it up then put parts back on
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| Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 04:41 pm | 8th Post |
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Well, discus, I'm afraid cc is right on this one. I just checked the Transport Canada website for admissibility of Motor Tricycles. The only one currently allowed is the 2009 and newer Pit Boss manufactured by Polaris. The only other conversions that are admissible are ones that have been converted for more than 15 years. That's not originally manufactured 15 years ago. It's converted more than 15 years ago. (CONVERTED prior to 1994 for 2009) No other info on the website, though there is a section under construction regarding 3 wheeled vehicles but no info yet, so I phoned the Transport Canada 1-888 # and asked them about admissibility. Got the same info as the website but the guy did add that the section under construction was going to be updated in the near future. Info he gave me was that NO conversions, other than those mentioned above, are admissible. In order for your 1800 trike to be allowed into Canada as an import Transport Canada would have to name your conversion company SPECIFICALLY as an authorized manufacturer. He basically said good luck with that. I'm afraid you got bad info all around. I've imported half a dozen bikes over the last few years and have always checked the website for admissibility and if unsure contacted Transport Canada directly to clarify and then had them confirm via email so I'd have something in writing. Here's the website to start at: http://www.riv.ca/ImportingAVehicle.aspx It looks like you have 4 options, all distasteful and/or expensive; 1. have someone, maybe the conversion guy that got you in this mess, sell the bike for you, or 2. contact Transport Canada and lobby them to put your conversion company on the admissible list. Problem with this option is that it would take over a year for it to happen and no one but you would be in a rush to get it done. Plus, the guy I talked to at Transport Canada said that it wasn't too likely that modifiers would get a look anytime soon as there are a number of manufacturers that are putting out trikes straight out of the factory that are getting the first look. 3. Buy a house in Phoenix and store it there so you can ride it when you fly south to escape winter. As you well know, that would actually give you a longer riding season than where you live now. 4. Do as CC has suggested and restore and reconvert. Good luck sorting out the mess. Last edited on Wed Sep 9th, 2009 04:43 pm by wpgfire ____________________ Lawrence '98 Valkyrie - current '97 1500SE (Austone Taxi Tire) - current '87 Aspencade '86 Interstate '83 Interstate '81 Silverwing '86 Venture Royale '84 450 Nighthawk '78 Wing '75 500T '74 CB350 |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 07:09 am | 9th Post |
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Thanks guys I appreciate the info. Looks like he might sell it... What a shame... lots of money, beautiful bike and one angry father in-law. The broker option is probably out since I am sure he is flagged at the borders now. Might have been an option before... I am glad it's not my bike, I would be fuming....
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 07:23 am | 10th Post |
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Nice to see the government is looking out for our best interests. Yeah, right.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 07:52 am | 11th Post |
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WPGFIRE I think we are colleages... 1702 here
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 04:53 pm | 12th Post |
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discus wrote: Thanks guys I appreciate the info. Looks like he might sell it... What a shame... lots of money, beautiful bike and one angry father in-law. The broker option is probably out since I am sure he is flagged at the borders now. Might have been an option before... I am glad it's not my bike, I would be fuming.... I have an option for your FIL discus. My son pulled a closed trailer in on the ferry landing in Vancouver late in the dark hours. It was loaded with several million dollars of inventory plus his own motorcycle. He made a point of being at the front of the line to load onto the ferry, which made him #1 to get off the ferry. When they landed in Vancouver, the ferry was chock full of vehicles wanting off. A lot of them pulling trailers. He got waved on through. It might have helped that his wife was with him and both of their puppy dogs were in her arms. 
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 09:47 pm | 13th Post |
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Manitoba is a native term meaning "Big Brother is watching". When you go to license/insure the beast in our province they punch the VIN number into the computer and if nothing comes up and you don't have a stamped "Form #1", you get no license/insurance. You might be able to sneak it in but here it wouldn't help you much. And yup, discus, we're IAFF brothers. 1230
____________________ Lawrence '98 Valkyrie - current '97 1500SE (Austone Taxi Tire) - current '87 Aspencade '86 Interstate '83 Interstate '81 Silverwing '86 Venture Royale '84 450 Nighthawk '78 Wing '75 500T '74 CB350 |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 09:53 pm | 14th Post |
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Then I would just license it in the USA, keep a PO box there for the title to go to, and go on about my business. Even if you have to use a relative or some trust worthy one to hold the title/insurance. I don't like "big brothers", period.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 10:08 pm | 15th Post |
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If he could get away with that, John, he'd be much better off. License/insurance here would be in the range of $3000/year for that trike.
____________________ Lawrence '98 Valkyrie - current '97 1500SE (Austone Taxi Tire) - current '87 Aspencade '86 Interstate '83 Interstate '81 Silverwing '86 Venture Royale '84 450 Nighthawk '78 Wing '75 500T '74 CB350 |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 10:23 pm | 16th Post |
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Was the bike registered in Canada and shipped to the USA for the conversion or did he buy in the USA and have it triked there? If it was a Canadian bike he would have to do the export to the USA paperwork first and I don't know how that would work. If the bike was US purchased it's just the nuisance of selling it and trying not to lose ones shirt. Since he got bad info from the converter they should at least assist in some way. If he registered it in the USA and wanted to use it in Canada he might have problems as well. At one time a Canadian couldn't use an American registered boat, car etc in Canada as it skirted various duty and tax laws. I hope he can work something out. Last edited on Thu Sep 10th, 2009 10:24 pm by nobbie ____________________ Len ___________________________ If you ask for directions you only go places where people have already gone. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 11:55 pm | 17th Post |
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Nah it would not have been previously registered in Canada If it was he would not have to jump thru any hoops just bring it home unnder current registration
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 04:27 am | 18th Post |
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Ok, he bought it in the US, brought it to Canada, registered/insured it. Then he took it to the US to get it triked. When we tried to bring it back in the trailer, customs said it was illegal to bring it to Canada. We had to leave it in ND.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 04:41 am | 19th Post |
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It should have been in an enclosed trailer, and worked a way to get waved thru. It was already licensed, I can't see the problem other than some persnickity custom agent is just popping his brass buttons. I would keep working on it, and get it home.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 05:42 am | 20th Post |
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discus wrote: Ok, he bought it in the US, brought it to Canada, registered/insured it. Then he took it to the US to get it triked. When we tried to bring it back in the trailer, customs said it was illegal to bring it to Canada. We had to leave it in ND. Adding to the concerns: Did the M/C get export clearance when it left the USA? While that is what you are supposed to do some do not and Canadian customs don't usually enforce US regulations. However if you want to sell such a bike back into the USA they will find that it is already registered and the paperwork hits the fan.
____________________ Len ___________________________ If you ask for directions you only go places where people have already gone. |
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