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| Posted: Sat Nov 14th, 2009 07:04 pm | 61st Post |
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Been following this thread and I know work is being done to post yet another video of a CT on the M/C. Is there a video of the MT tire on the M/C from the same or similiar angle? And one other question.........If the car tire works so good, and no I have no experience with one, why doesn't Honda install them from the factory? Last edited on Sat Nov 14th, 2009 07:16 pm by oharaLTD ____________________ Kevin 1982 Aspencade That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.Declaration of Independence Belhaven #509 AF&AM Current Bike 1982 GL1100A 1983 Honda Nighthawk 450 1980 CB750 Custom 1999 V-Star 1100 Custom 1985 Honda GL1200 LTD 1992 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14th, 2009 07:28 pm | 62nd Post |
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I found one
____________________ Kevin 1982 Aspencade That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.Declaration of Independence Belhaven #509 AF&AM Current Bike 1982 GL1100A 1983 Honda Nighthawk 450 1980 CB750 Custom 1999 V-Star 1100 Custom 1985 Honda GL1200 LTD 1992 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14th, 2009 07:40 pm | 63rd Post |
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The contact patch on the MC tire isn't any wider than the CT gives when leaning over. Let's compare this with Ciaran's video when it gets put up next week.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14th, 2009 09:03 pm | 64th Post |
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oharaLTD wrote: And one other question.........If the car tire works so good, and no I have no experience with one, why doesn't Honda install them from the factory? Economics. It's all about the money. 
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14th, 2009 10:16 pm | 65th Post |
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SETHAN12 wrote: oharaLTD wrote: And they don't want to rock the boat with the nay-sayers. 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 12:29 am | 66th Post |
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oharaLTD wrote:
A better question is, if they did start using car tires on new bikes what would the whine bags do then? Find something else they know nothing about to bash I suppose.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 12:31 am | 67th Post |
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AZgl1500 wrote: The contact patch on the MC tire isn't any wider than the CT gives when leaning over. I agree. One thing I'd like to know is, what is the ply of these car tires everyone is running. The ply rating on my MC tires is 3.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 12:58 am | 68th Post |
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The ply rating on my Goodyear Excellence run flat is six with weight load of 1,201 pounds at 50 psi max. I usually run at 39 psi with or without my trailer. Last edited on Sun Nov 15th, 2009 12:59 am by SETHAN12 ____________________ Yesterday is for memories! Today is for making memories! Tomorrow is a concept that does not exist! What are you waiting for? ... Sam-n-Elaine Just livin' the dream!!!!! Just another day in paradise!!!!! Honor above all else!!!!! Thank you Dylan Saunders for the layout of my greeting!!!! |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 01:08 am | 69th Post |
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Is that the side wall rating?
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 01:13 am | 70th Post |
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1201 pounds at 50 psi max is what the side wall will withstand which is 400 pounds more than a MC tire.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 01:24 am | 71st Post |
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My michelin is a 4 ply actually, not 4 ply rating. 1 polyester, 1 aramid and 2 steel. 1356 lbs at 51 PSI.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 01:26 am | 72nd Post |
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DaveO430 wrote: My michelin is a 4 ply actually, not 4 ply rating. 1 polyester, 1 aramid and 2 steel. 1356 lbs at 51 PSI. W  W. This is a winter tread isn't it? Has a great rating!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 03:58 am | 73rd Post |
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wexy wrote:
Well put. 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 04:09 am | 74th Post |
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I wanna put spinners on mine so it looks like the wheels are still turning when Im at a stop light!!!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 04:18 am | 75th Post |
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hatchetman wrote: I wanna put spinners on mine so it looks like the wheels are still turning when Im at a stop light!!! That would look great. Post some pics as soon as you can. Actually you need to post video so we can get the full effect.... 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 05:06 am | 76th Post |
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SETHAN12 wrote: DaveO430 wrote:My michelin is a 4 ply actually, not 4 ply rating. 1 polyester, 1 aramid and 2 steel. 1356 lbs at 51 PSI. Yeah, I like this one.....I'm gonna look at this.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 09:08 am | 77th Post |
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I've been reading a lot of these threads about running a CT, and it interests me. I would like to see contact patch videos of a MC tire, then a CT, ran on the same bike, by the same rider, on the same course, at similar speeds, with both tires inflated to the proper pressure (CT's pressure as suggested by seasoned CT runners). So far, the videos I have seen of CT's run on a MC, the contact patch looks equal to, or better than a MC tire. You gotta love the tread on a CT versus a MC tire. I'm somewhat concerned about the insurance issue, but unless they could prove the CT contributed to the accident, then I think is is not an issue, and that would be hard to prove. Plus, someone dealing with that could call some of these long term CT runners in as expert witnesses to argue the point! I have an airbag model with ABS. The manual only recommends Bridgestone or Dunlops as pair so the ABS sensors are matched sufficiently on the front and rear tires. I would think several of the CT runners have ABS? ** Has anyone had any issues with the ABS running a CT? ** Anyone know of any issues with the Airbag model running a CT?. (This may sound like a dumb question, but I wouldn't have thought a fender extension would be an issue, but it is for the Airbag sensors. Can't see how the tire would be a problem, but maybe the speed sensors affect that too?) One thing is for certain, when you buy a MC tire, you sure pay a lot of money for a tire that wears out so fast. Both the recommended Dunlops and Bridgestones hardly have any tread on them when you buy them! And why aren't run flat MC tires readily available? Seems more important to have a run flat on a bike than a car, especially on the rear. They can't even sell us that safety feature?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 09:14 am | 78th Post |
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Titaniumwing the importance of good tires is often overlooked by bikers. I have seen some worn tires on Motorcycles that just make you shake your head. If a person does not have the money for the tire though, they make that choice to ride or not. It is a hard choice on a nice day. I have never seen run flats for Motorcycles, but I do know there are tires with harder sidewalls that hold up much better during a flat or blowout. Many Police departments use them on their Motorcycle fleet.
____________________ I never met a Goldwing I did not like. I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them--Thomas Jefferson AMA Charter Life Member. 486714 ABATE of North Idaho member. C-1123M Motorcycle Riders Foundation 11642 Idaho Coalition for MC Safety. Patriot Guard Rider Former member GWRRA. Prospect of the KANWINGS Wild Rhinos,Idaho Chapter Where I live: http://www.orofino.com/ MBS Survivor.(Multiple Bike Syndrome) Previous or Present thrills:196? Suzuki 350 1965 Honda CT200 197? Kawasaki 250 1979 Yamaha XS750F 1981 Honda Goldwing 1984 Kawasaki GPZ 550 1984 Honda Aspencade 1984 Kawasaki Ninja 1986 Honda VF1000R 2000 Special Contruction Chopper (still have) 1976 Honda XL175 2000 HD Sportster 883 2002 Yamaha YZ426f 2007 Yamaha TTR230 2008 HondaGL1800 (Black of course) Once down the path to the darkside you begin, Forever will it dominate your destiny(Yoda) Heathen Darksider # 771 |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 09:44 am | 79th Post |
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Beginning of summer, I replaced the orginal tires on my 1800, at a little over 10,000 miles. The back just looked too thin on tread. They were Dunlops. Then when I looked at the new tires, I realized I took my old ones off too soon. They could build better tires for the 1800, that's for sure.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 10:07 am | 80th Post |
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so far I am liking the stock tires on this thing, but I only have a couple thousand miles on them. When I get to 10 I will be asking the same questions as you. I will be checking into those Police style tires though.
____________________ I never met a Goldwing I did not like. I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them--Thomas Jefferson AMA Charter Life Member. 486714 ABATE of North Idaho member. C-1123M Motorcycle Riders Foundation 11642 Idaho Coalition for MC Safety. Patriot Guard Rider Former member GWRRA. Prospect of the KANWINGS Wild Rhinos,Idaho Chapter Where I live: http://www.orofino.com/ MBS Survivor.(Multiple Bike Syndrome) Previous or Present thrills:196? Suzuki 350 1965 Honda CT200 197? Kawasaki 250 1979 Yamaha XS750F 1981 Honda Goldwing 1984 Kawasaki GPZ 550 1984 Honda Aspencade 1984 Kawasaki Ninja 1986 Honda VF1000R 2000 Special Contruction Chopper (still have) 1976 Honda XL175 2000 HD Sportster 883 2002 Yamaha YZ426f 2007 Yamaha TTR230 2008 HondaGL1800 (Black of course) Once down the path to the darkside you begin, Forever will it dominate your destiny(Yoda) Heathen Darksider # 771 |
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