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 Posted: Fri Jun 10th, 2011 01:24 pm 61st Post
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The Victory is a very good, well made bike. I do not believe there is a snow ball's chance in Hades that there is room for another American bike company, especially in these weak economic times. Difficulties in this endeavor abound. As some will notice, the Wing was an excellent bike as long as it was made in Japan and not so much after it was brought to Ohio. Just be thankful we have the Goldwing.
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Japan.... Honda
China.... Lifan

That speaks for itself.

China already owns us. I was reading the other day about how we were close to defaulting on our loan from China, and how it would be a horrible decision to make. How many politicians vote themselves a raise? Plus what they get after they're out of office- even if they do a crappy job?!... PLUS, Obama's famous phrase is "We'll give you federal funding. Let us know if you need it, we'll send monetary aid" How dumb is it to promise money we DO NOT have?

... and yes, a lot of our IT is outsourced to India too- and it seems they hand pick them to find the ones with the strongest accents to talk you through technical difficulties (WTF??)

A smaller, cheaper, lighter version of the GoldWing?? I have one! They made it for about four years, then discontinued it only to make it again years later as a scooter....



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 Posted: Fri Jun 10th, 2011 10:13 pm 63rd Post
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We are open for suggestion or The American Motorcycle Company AMC The bike could use animal names Falcon,Hawk,and Indian names.Hey people food for thought here.

 Posted: Mon Jun 13th, 2011 08:06 am 64th Post
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All great ideas as well as some hurtles to get over.



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 Posted: Tue Jun 14th, 2011 12:14 am 65th Post
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Freddie Johnston wrote: We are open for suggestion or The American Motorcycle Company AMC The bike could use animal names Falcon,Hawk,and Indian names.Hey people food for thought here.
Please name it something else. The last AMC went belly up:ROFL:you remember the Pacer, the Gremlin, the Ambassador, the Javelin, and the Eagle:byebye:



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 Posted: Tue Jun 14th, 2011 09:34 am 66th Post
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SETHAN12 wrote: Please name it something else. The last AMC went belly up:ROFL:you remember the Pacer, the Gremlin, the Ambassador, the Javelin, and the Eagle:byebye:
Hey now!!!! I LOVED my 73 AMC Hornet! I finally junked it about 5 yrs ago!!!



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 Posted: Tue Jun 14th, 2011 11:00 am 67th Post
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How about American Motorcycle well if this doesn't work you people come up with some thing?:?

 Posted: Wed Jun 15th, 2011 09:11 pm 68th Post
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AMW (American Motor works) but i don't think BMW would like it too much. :)



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It won't be BMW we won't build cars and such not yet lol.:?

 Posted: Fri Jun 17th, 2011 03:48 am 70th Post
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:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:



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 Posted: Sun Jun 19th, 2011 12:59 pm 71st Post
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BID
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 Posted: Sun Jul 3rd, 2011 02:35 am 72nd Post
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Man, What I am hearing is a very defeatist attitude. Buy a older wing and fix it up and ride the wheels off of it.

If there is a market for a product the product will be made.

Once I put a BMW engine in a MOTO Guzzi frame and all it took was a small adapter for the driveshaft.

American ingenuity will win out in the end.

Never give up and Never stop dreaming.

I enjoy building things that no one else has built and when someone says "you can't do that" It just inspires me.

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I was talking to my brother the other day and in a joking way he said.Well why don't you just put a flat head v8 Ford engine on the thing well with the 1800 frame you most likely could do just that who knows.

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I was thinking more along the lines of a small water cooled car engine. Isnt a subaru a flat four or six?

Maybe even a four cylinder ford motor like the old pinto engines in 2.0 or 2.3 liter, I always liked those engines.

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All a Subaru engine is a boxer engine like a Honda.Porche have built boxer engines for years these are time tested engines and are made to hop up too.One motortrike is using a Ford Focus powertrain and Mustang rear end and from people that own one it will move.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 7th, 2011 04:06 am 76th Post
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My suzuki has a good little 4cylinder in it. Toyota's have had good engines in them too. It's not unheard of to have another company make parts for one companies car.



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I got my cookies at the First Eastern M&G!! (Darksider)

Total Miles: 43,000+ and counting.
Current rides: 04 GL1800 (my baby), 08 Suzuki SX4, 86 Toyota Pickup Custom Cab Turbo 4X4 (My other baby).
Previous Rides:
1980 Suzuki GS1000, USS Louisiana Gold (SSBN 743)
 Posted: Fri Jul 8th, 2011 01:04 pm 77th Post
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As always there are two sides to the coin. The problem with having Goldwings built in the States for an American market is that they get designed for wide roads and VERY long distances (comparable to Paris-Moscow).

 

Most of us Europeans have to put up with traffic jams getting out of the driveway of our houses, not very wide motorways and Eastern European truck drivers. Towns and most cities are still built on the original 16th century road plan which makes manouvering and parking quite difficult.

 

Japan is also a country which, to say the least, is slightly congested.

 

This will probably lead to them designing bikes (like the ST1300 and 2012 GL1800) which are a bit more nimble in tight areas, and therefore better suited to the European (and Japenese) model of City Planning.

 

That being said.... the 2012 Wing does look like the aftermath of a collision between a K1600 and a ST1300 with GL1500 seat and top box. I don't like what i've seen so far at all.

 

Even so, it is difficult to accept the fact that you lost the Wing production, but believe me, it's at least as worse if not even worser over on this side of the pond.

 

I hope there's nothing political about the above.

 

Dave.

 

 



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 Posted: Fri Jul 8th, 2011 06:24 pm 78th Post
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You answered my question if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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Good point Dave, If the bike is sold in areas that needs it to be nimble and maneuverable then it should be. That being said, It wouldn't hurt to be more so over here either. My concern is that it might loose some of it's comfort, but hopefully that's not the case. My 04 is very nimble and I'm not complaining about the weight, but then again I don't have to deal with traffic jams and narrow roads all the time. If we were to make a bike similar to the wing here I would want it to be comfortable enough for loooooong rides and nimble enough for traffic jams and other obstacles.



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I just got my bike back from the DR. All is well. :)
I got my cookies at the First Eastern M&G!! (Darksider)

Total Miles: 43,000+ and counting.
Current rides: 04 GL1800 (my baby), 08 Suzuki SX4, 86 Toyota Pickup Custom Cab Turbo 4X4 (My other baby).
Previous Rides:
1980 Suzuki GS1000, USS Louisiana Gold (SSBN 743)
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