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FVM
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Posted: Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 05:58 pm | 41st Post |
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Make the Wing better.
Let's see... instead of 180 degree motor design, make it 170 degree. (not MotoGuzzi style)
Safety: More toe room. My shoe scraped the ground last week on a normal turn, YIKES!
Mechanically: This would lower the crank weight. Makes a little straighter shot & shorter distance for fuel to enter the chambers. Oil will drain from bottom of the cylinders. NO SMOKE ON STARTUP = HOO AHH!
Cosmetically: The valve covers will be looking up at you.
Last edited on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 04:32 pm by FVM
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dbqluthier
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Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2008 11:21 am | 42nd Post |
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My $.02. I have an '82 1100 Aspen. stripped of the faring with a smaller windshield. I only weigh 150 lbs and this bike is all I can handle ... I hope I can keep it running forever. I've ridden my brother's 1500 and my 1100 handles better for me. That's also the matter of parking space. I couldn't fit a 1500 full dresser in my garage ( maybe a Valkyrie), keeping a bike outdoors is not an option.
I think a remake of the 1100 with a better electrical system would go well. I wasn't looking for an antique when I found this one (after 2 months of looking), I wanted to ride. There's plenty of power, a low center of gravity, easier to work on than V-twin and I get 'Wows' on her looks. The smaller frame guys need a Goldwing, too.
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stretrod48
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Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2008 03:33 pm | 43rd Post |
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| I don't think Honda has the guts to make a smaller Wing. They had the duh huh's to even discontinue the Valkyrie. Where is their head ?
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Gord001
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Posted: Sun Feb 10th, 2008 08:20 pm | 44th Post |
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I have driven most of the Goldwing models and I think the new GL1800's feel the lightest of all the Goldwings I have driven.
I am not sure what the point of a smaller Wing would be.
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RichVal68
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Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 07:35 pm | 45th Post |
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Mother Honda, I would like a GL1800 body that has a lower center of gravity, with a small light weight diesel engine (made of the same/similar technology and materials being used for the diesel engine for the new BMW car), with an adjustable seat height from 25 inches up. Further it would also be designed for two up sport and tour riding and have the potential for 75 mpg plus.
One justification; I have been told by a Honda dealer that women now account for 30% of all new motorcycles sold. My wife rides a Honda 750 but she wants a GW but after riding mine (GL1800) feels it is too heavy and seat is too high.
All bike should have ABS and please do not bundle ABS with other more expensive options, safety should be available to lower end of the income spectrum also.
Further, should recognize the GW riders are going to pull a trailer and design a multipurpose trailer hitch that does not void the warranty.
Thank you in advance for your time.
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Axisman1
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 04:20 pm | 46th Post |
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Not sure how true it is, but I heard the 1200,1500, and 1800 doesnt get the gas milage of the 1000 and 1100. My wife and I looked at an 07 1800 for $16,200, but decided we didn't want a payment so I'm going to get another 1100. I rode my friends 1500 and the performance was alot more impresive than the 1100, it road smoother, but it was a little squerley at low speeds. A friend of mine who is 61 yrs old and weighs 110lbs test road an 1800 and he said because of the geometry of the frame at low speed it was a cinch to ride. Every one of them are good bikes, but I can't afford them all. So many toys such little money.
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Ivanawphalytch
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 02:32 am | 47th Post |
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I agree with smaller. In 2004 when I went in to buy new, I was shocked by the 1832 cc Gold Wing. If I want an engine that big, I'll buy a car. I'm after economy in a bike, as well as weather protection and storage (I use my bike for all sorts of shopping). I'd like large, top loading bags that detach like my ST1300 and a trunk (Givi 52L size) that detaches just as fast. A Gold Wing comfy seat, too. Easy access to oil and filter, and spark plug changes is nice. Eight to ten gallon fuel tank ( 300 mile plus) is real nice (love my ST). Notice, I said FUEL tank........diesel is good, too. Front and rear tires the same size (16 inch and fat). A 1000 cc engine will go much faster than I should want to travel (my '76 would run 130 all day back in 1982). And make it the same forever ( remember the early VW....the only changes were minor improvements and to keep it legal.....they sold very well from 1949 to 1973). Come to think of it the ST 1300 ( Hondas Best Kept Secret) fills the bill very well. The bags are a little small, and the airbox takes up a lot of fuel space, and it needs a trunk. I guess it's my Lil Wing. My Old Wings are slated for sidecar and trailer, eventually.
I don't understand why the Shadow line has 750, 1100, 1300, and 1800 cc bikes, yet the Gold Wing only has a truck engine. The 1979 to 1983 Silverwings DO have a dedicated following. An 800 cc V-4 "Silverwing" would be just the berries, for me.
That's All Folks,
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Ivanawphalytch
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 12:19 am | 48th Post |
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KISS (keep it simple sweetie) after I left last night I thought of a way to make it easier. Just remove the rear two cylinders. 1221 cc, and more foot room. Leave everything else the same. Make it in a stripped down (eliminate the farkles) version for us cheap b#%&(&^$. If Honda made it, I'd have bought one in '04 instead of the ST.
Just my thoughts,
God Bless,
Ivan
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FVM
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 09:15 pm | 49th Post |
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An early view of the new motor?
http://www.scba.us/motor30degree.JPG
1. Little more toe room
2. Oil flows back to pan better.
3. Has that constant... smile look. 
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Ivanawphalytch
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Posted: Sat Jun 7th, 2008 04:06 pm | 50th Post |
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Gord,
The idea behind a smaller Wing is better mileage and lighter/lower for us short legged birds (male and female).
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mcgovern61
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 01:08 am | 51st Post |
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Gord001 wrote: I have driven most of the Goldwing models and I think the new GL1800's feel the lightest of all the Goldwings I have driven.
I am not sure what the point of a smaller Wing would be.
PRICE!!!
My neighbor has an 1800 and I ride an 82 1100 dressed out. We swapped bikes and were both shocked at the weight differences. I will stick with my 1100 for as long as possible. My daughter helped rebuild the bike and she wants to ride, but even the 1100 is too high for her. I would like to see anew version of this bike. I would hope it would also be less expensive. (New 1800 in NJ starts at $22,000.)
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Howardize
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 08:02 pm | 52nd Post |
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I'dsay get a ST1300
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 01:06 am | 53rd Post |
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| I agree that a smaller GoldWing (as an alternate choice to the 1800) would be a great idea. Say a 1200cc, horizontal 4 (or even two) cylinder with fuel injection, aluminum frame, Ohlins enduro suspension, etc., etc., as a competitive option to the BMW R1200 GS? An enduro version of a GoldWing would probably sell very well, too. In fact these two bikes (the GoldWing and the BMW GS's) are about the only two bikes I see making it from the lower forty-eight to Fairbanks, AK and beyond. Occassionally, there is a Harley Davidson, but the sight of one that has been actually motored up here is exceedingly rare!
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trnpkcruzr
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 08:51 pm | 54th Post |
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I was thinking this very thing about 2 weeks ago! At 5'6" my 81 Interstate is just right as far as weight but seat height could be 2" shorter. I like the CX1200 Idea also. I have sat on an 1800 and height is not bad, but it does seem a little heavy.I am sure on the road it feels very light. But for me its just too much. Last year I sold my 81 standard and was looking at an ST1100, but bought an R1100RT instead. I am back to the wing as I am definately not a Sport Touring Type. I am sure had I bought an ST I would have sold it also. The WING IS THE THING.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 10:57 am | 55th Post |
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| As the existing wingers age the ability to handle the weight comes into play. More than one bike has been sold because of a minor set down where the owner couldn't lift it back up. Look at the weight of the Beemers (Not including the LT draft horse model). They are much lighter.
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mcgovern61
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 07:48 pm | 56th Post |
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nobbie wrote: As the existing wingers age the ability to handle the weight comes into play. More than one bike has been sold because of a minor set down where the owner couldn't lift it back up. Look at the weight of the Beemers (Not including the LT draft horse model). They are much lighter.
I made the mistake of stopping my 1100 and hopping off without putting down the kickstand. The engine guard and the Hondaline bags held it it well, but I struggled by myself to get the bike upright. (I would love to see a smaller lighter wing in this cc range.)
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RayandTracy
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 01:16 am | 57th Post |
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Honda needs to hire Red Green for his ability to use duct tape on everything 
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FVM
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 03:29 am | 58th Post |
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Is this the direrction Mama Honda is taking GoldWings?
http://www.scba.us/images/NewWing.JPG
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 05:03 pm | 59th Post |
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1. Go back to the drawing board and figure out how to reduce/lower the weight.
2. At least bring back the 1500 sized trunk and saddlebags.
3. I don't know why people have trouble with centerstands but perhaps a electric centerstand like the LT. Of course this would mean more weight.
4. Why do I need to get the 3rd option pkg. to get ABS?
5. I would like the comfort option without the NAVI.
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TomE
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 02:49 am | 60th Post |
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I guess that's why I like my 1975 GL1000 so much. It is 605 lbs. It runs with the big boys and gives me less trouble at slow speed.
It's nimble in the corners, and fast enough to loose my licence. A 650 mile day is not too much. If it was new, that would be even better.
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