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| Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 08:43 am | 81st Post |
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MSGT-R wrote: Honda already has a "smaller wing", it's called an ST1300. My wife loves our new 1800 and in fact insisted we buy it. We went to the dealer today accessory shopping and happened upon a few different bikes. The Pacific Coast was in her eyes UGLY. MY opinion was a little different but not much. The Varadaro looked painful and ugly. Me - not painful or ugly but not comfortable or good looking. The ST1300 looked painful. Me - drool  I was also drooling over the Kawi Concourse but it got the same response as the ST1300. If there's no way to make it at least look comfortable then the missus won't get on it. If she won't get on it I won't buy it. The ST1300 isn't a smaller Wing it's a sport bike that tours. The 1800 is a touring bike that's sporty. I'd love to see a smaller Wing modeled after the 1800, basically chop 2 cylinders off the 1800 and keep it current with today's technology. I'd also like to see an electric windscreen, removable bags and some seat adjustment for driver and passenger.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15th, 2009 02:20 am | 82nd Post |
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Grumpa those are some really great ideas. Hope Honda gets a look at them!!!!!
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| Posted: Sat Jan 9th, 2010 08:34 pm | 83rd Post |
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ST 1300 looks OK but the tank hump needs to go and backrest for passenger would be the bees cheese!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 12:10 am | 84th Post |
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I would like to see a 900 cc version of the original. With today's fuel injection and ignitions, it could easily outpower the old 1000's and with today's lightweight aluminum frames it could also be a lot lighter than the original. I've ridden mine well over 200,000 miles and have never wished it was bigger or heavier or more powerful. The new wings are beautiful machines but sometimes I think they are trying to build a 2 wheeled SUV instead of a motorcycle. Plus they burn more gas than my car. Less plastic would also be good, the originals had a beautiful engine. Today you can barely make out the valve covers.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 08:19 pm | 85th Post |
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BMW K1200LT ? can I say that on a Goldwing site  Maybe a trunk option for the ST1300 with the back rest and arm rest similar to the wing? That would give it that "comfortable" look for the passenger. Should do my research before I post http://www.hondaofbournemouth.co.uk/results.aspx/325/53/ST1300_Pan_European_Top_Box_45L_ Now if you could find it in the USA. Last edited on Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:08 pm by jwhitmore44 ____________________ Main rides in order by year: 03 Honda XR650L 99 Shadow VLX (VT600C) 84 GL1200 Aspencade |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2010 06:10 pm | 86th Post |
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I rode a friends 1800 the other day,it was dry for a few hours here in Washington,and found the same problem I have with my 1100. My legs are too "short"! The big Honda is not really built for a man/woman with short legs,I have to stretch to get both feet on the ground at a stop light,if the seat height was a few inches lower I won't have to mod the machine,change the seat or lower the bike. But I do like the rest of it,great touring machine...tks
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| Posted: Fri Apr 9th, 2010 07:05 am | 87th Post |
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Well we could always go back to the GL 650.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14th, 2010 10:27 pm | 88th Post |
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Some things to note: ST is not GL. The 1000 was the Goldwing beginning and no goldwing in the future should be less. Anything over 1800 is a car. Interchangable Apps on the dash would be nice. Can still buy the bike you want and get the extras to fit. OH and Mother Honda! Yoo Hoo Over Here! L.E.D.'s wave of the future. Light these Wings with Super Bright L.E.D.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16th, 2010 05:57 am | 89th Post |
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StrayDawg1 wrote: My legs are too "short"! The big Honda is not really built for a man/woman with short legs,I have to stretch to get both feet on the ground at a stop light,if the seat height was a few inches lower I won't have to mod the machine I have the exact opposite problem. I'm 6'4" and sitting at a light is no problem, but when I'm running down the road I find my legs bent to much. I added some Kury ISO pegs to the case savers but I find that with my long legs I am constantly rubbing my legs against the fairing. If they made it back to a 4 cyl. 1200 with todays technology it would have plenty of power and the fairing would not come back so far. I would be able to ride a lot more comfortably. If you think 1200 cc is not enough just look at the power the current 1000's to 1300's 4's now have.... Henry
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16th, 2010 09:03 am | 90th Post |
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Hanko wrote:
The GL1200 Aspencade had almost the same horsepower to weight ratio (7.7:1) as today's GL1800 (7.1:1). Using today's technology I have no problem envisioning a GL1200 easily matching the GL1800. I think it would be awesome to have a 600-650lb bike with that kind of power. Add in a few different power and suspension settings (economy, regular and performance) and I think it would be a big winner.
____________________ Willy "Grumpa" Pichler '08 GL1800 yeah baby! |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2010 04:51 pm | 91st Post |
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ST1300 a "Smaller Wing"?? NO Way! Not Even Close...you couldn't give me an ST as a Replacement to Any Model Wing...looks like a Glorified Crotch Rocket to me.... I say go Back to about 1200cc with the Styling of todays Wings and reduce the COST....Truth is...It will Never Happen....
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2010 06:00 pm | 92nd Post |
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Don't knock the ST unless you've tried it. It's hardly a "glorified crotch rocket". If you take look at the entrant list from the past few Iron Butt rallies..I mean the real one, 11,000 miles in 11 days..not the single 1000miles in 24 hours.., you will see more ST's entered than Goldwings.. That should tell you something about the ST's capability to click off 1000 mile days..day after day.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30th, 2010 02:18 pm | 93rd Post |
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The ST1300 may in fact be "hardly a glorified crotch rocket" but the fact remains that it LOOKS more like a crotch rocket than a 'Wing. It may in fact be the most comfortable bike on the planet (don't know) but there's not a hope in he77 of my wife getting on one, no matter how much I beg and plead (I tried). They are in fact 2 different classes of motorcycle. The Goldwing is a touring bike that's sporty in 1800 form while the ST1300 is a Sport-Touring bike.
____________________ Willy "Grumpa" Pichler '08 GL1800 yeah baby! |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30th, 2010 06:58 pm | 94th Post |
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Agreed on the difference. The ST is still one hell of a bike. Cousin Jack switched and his wife seems to be OK with it. I'm very tempted. It doesn't look as nice as a wing, but then again, if I was concerned about looks, I'd be riding a Harley.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28th, 2010 05:37 am | 95th Post |
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The ST13 and the new ST700 are OK but the Gold Wing is an entity in itself. My brother's ST13 is fast. It has no other edge on my GL12, and though I've never ridden one, I expect the GL18 either. I've certainly never ridden any other bike so well suited to gobbling up the miles as the 'Wing, and that has been the case since 1975. They are special. I think we will soon have a new model to oogle. I can't imagine Honda moving the factory to Japan without re-tooling. Have they listened to those of us who prefer the lighter 4 bangers? Or maybe they favored the ST enthusiasts. They do have a new ST model with a way sportier profile. Maybe the ST13 and the GL18 will morph into an all new machine. Or they could just push the top of the envelope and we'd get a GL2000. Bigger, heavier and more expensive.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28th, 2010 06:05 pm | 96th Post |
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Rider15 wrote: Some things to note: ST is not GL. The 1000 was the Goldwing beginning and no goldwing in the future should be less. Anything over 1800 is a car. Interchangable Apps on the dash would be nice. Can still buy the bike you want and get the extras to fit.Actually the prototype Goldwing was a 1500 cc 6 cylinder version. Thats why I have always wanted a Valkyrie. It really is the original GW.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29th, 2010 11:08 pm | 97th Post |
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A 'Retro' GL-1200 Aspencade SEi, now that fuel injection has improved since the original. 
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2010 09:18 pm | 98th Post |
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I retro'ed my 81 Interstate with LEDs and it's working out fine! If it had 6th gear and maybe 100 less pounds, I'd be estatic!! The ST700 is a twin cylinder joke. It's actually only 685cc. Now if you put the new VFR1200 motor in it.. WOW!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21st, 2010 12:16 am | 99th Post |
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A lot of people are saying NO WAY to a ST1300. I can tell they have never been on one. I have riden Goldwings for years. I currently own 3 of them. I also own a Kawasaki Concours C1400. Almost the same bike as a ST1300. Is it a wing. NO Actually I think it rides better!! The only small draw back is the seat hieght. The sitting position can be changed very easy with a set of bar risers. I have not riden the NT700V as of yet. But I think it would be a very nice bike for a person not wanting a bike as big as a GL1800. So don't discount a ST1300 they are great bikes.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21st, 2010 01:49 am | 100th Post |
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Ghost Rider, I know you love the ST but really. By the time you buy one and do the mods to make it work half as well as the 'Wing, you may as well have bought a 'Wing. Honda an Givi sell a lot of trunks for those things. The fairing extensions ain't cheap. Windshield, extensions or replacement? Seat work or new seat and Bar Backs. And you still don't have a cruise control, comfort (heat) package, radio and cargo space for two to go for a ride. The Kawasaki KLR650 is a great bike too. Lots of people tour all over hell on those things. Should we compare that to an ST as well?
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