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| Posted: Wed May 30th, 2007 01:54 am | 21st Post |
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Well When I get a diesel bike it WILL have a Jake Brake and put every Harley around me to shame..BBBBRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMM..Ya Baby  
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| Posted: Wed May 30th, 2007 02:06 pm | 22nd Post |
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You don't need a skinking jake break, just get an old 2 stroke detroit diesel. I've run one with a small muffler, and I'll describe it in this way, that engine is a banshee. Might be a little large, so I'll have to build it into a trike. Loud pipes save lives right? I've save the entire town with that thing then.
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| Posted: Wed May 30th, 2007 09:29 pm | 23rd Post |
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That would be awesome. I've got a diesel F-250 Super Duty and it gets about 18-19mpg on the highway at 70 mph. I think that's really good for such a heavy vehicle with quite a bit of wind resistance. A m/c with a diesel would be something I would definitely look into.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 02:59 am | 24th Post |
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The M1030M1 JP8/Diesel Military Motorcycle has been under development since 1998. It is designed to operate reliably and efficiently on Kerosene based fuels to include Diesel Fuel and Aviation Kerosene. HDT is under contract with the U.S. Marine Corps to delivery over 440 M1030M1s. Production will begin in March of 2006. ENGINE: Type:4-Stroke, IDI, single cylinder, liquid cooled. Displacement:611cc Power:30 PS @ 5700 RPM Torque:33 ft-lbs @ 4200 RPM Lubrication:Wet sump, compatible with MIL-L-2104 lubricant. Air Filtration:High capacity, 3-stage, oiled foam, reusable Transmission:5-speed, constant mesh, return shift. Final Drive:Self lubricated, sealed, O-ring roller chain. WEIGHTS & MEASUREMENTS: Dry Weight: 369 lbs Max Width: 35.75 inches Max Length: 85 inches Wheel Base: 57 inches Ground Clearance: 10.7 inches PERFORMANCE: Acceleration: 0-30 mph (53 kph), 3.3 sec 0-60 mph (106 kph), 9.7 sec Gradeability: 60% (32E) Turning Radius: Less than 7 feet Maximum Speed: In excess of 90 mph. Minimum Constant Speed: Less than 3 mph. Fording Depth: 24 inches Fuel Mileage: 96 mpg @ 55 mph (Tested) Range: 408 miles @ 55 mph
____________________ Tim from NC 86 SEI 83 SilverWing GL650I 82 SilverWing GL500I |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2007 05:13 pm | 25th Post |
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Thielert AG has been manufacturing diesel aircraft engines to replace existing Lycoming and Continental piston engines for several years now, and they have been selling like crazy. They put out equivalent power, using less fuel. There's an article on them here: http://www.flyingmag.com/article.asp?section_id=12&article_id=501 Aircraft engines run at low RPM (like 2500 RPM max) and require large displacement in order to get the torque out required at those low speeds. Diesel is a perfect replacement (although I believe the Thielerts are run at higher speeds and are geared down). Also, 100LL fuel is extremely expensive and getting harder to find every day. The Theielerts run on common Jet-A fuel. The new Diamond Twin Star runs on two Thielert diesels and gets incredible performance while sipping fuel: http://www.diamond-air.at/da42_twin_star+M52087573ab0.html
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2007 02:18 am | 26th Post |
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I am a girl, make it purple and earth friendly and I will buy it....just sayin
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2007 02:21 am | 27th Post |
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I am a boy. Make it Black and powerful, belching black smoke, when you hit it..........
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2007 02:23 am | 28th Post |
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taffy australia wrote: Frank Zappa had a diesel................. See, that's what I am sayin' see Taffy? You're not alone
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2007 07:33 pm | 29th Post |
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what if ? someone out there knows a relatively small insize big in power cvt type that attaches to our drive shaft Randakk are you watching? 1.3 cdti's put out over 70 bhp, have a separate transmission etc
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2007 06:09 am | 30th Post |
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The Neander looks pretty good. I'll bet the Cro-Magnon will be even better. http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/06/19/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle/ Last edited on Fri Jun 15th, 2007 06:22 am by exavid ____________________ If you can't ride, fly or sail it, why bother? 2001 Goldwing 1800 Paul W. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16th, 2007 04:30 am | 31st Post |
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That military diesel one. If its the one based on the kawasaki. They released a bunch for sale last year. they were about 17 Gs i think. There's were some Royal Enfield ones . And old english and German BMW Hatz Conversions. Theres a new one being made in Germany. I tried to get one . Even disassembled. The guy can't export them.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 10:33 pm | 32nd Post |
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Diesel bike? Try kick-starting that one! 
____________________  ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___ FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 02:44 am | 33rd Post |
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=qtcd1kSdlQY
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| Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 03:36 pm | 34th Post |
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That's what I've been thinking too about the kick starting...You best be the Hulks little brother. Many years ago GM built a diesel out of a 350 Chevy gas engine, I don't know if there's any still running ???? From all that I was able to remember about those 350 conversions is, they ran good when they ran, and suffered lots of problems... But as said technology is better today than it was 30 years ago.. The problem as I see it would be getting the compression up to where the diesel fuel would fire...Then there would be the beefing up of the engine block, crank, and rods to compensate for this extra compression. Fuel injection is another area to look at, Gasoline injectors wouldn't again be able to holdup long under that extra compression. Turbo charging wouldn't be a problem after all the other issues were resolved...Then after all has been said and done then there is the emission testing to be done and passed by whom ever does it?????? Now I may stand corrected on this but would the engine not weigh in at about 50 to 100 lbs more for all the "beefing up" and its my thought that just the engine alone, if mother Honda built them, be several thousands more to an already very expensive motorcycle ???? Right now here in Texas diesel fuel is about 50 to 70 cents more per gallon than gasoline, that means that if someone does come up with, lets say a 4 cylinder diesel engine that will fit a Wing, it best get up in the 70 to 80 mpg range to be cost effective ??? Am I wrong????? Claude
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| Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 04:21 pm | 35th Post |
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The coming Subaru Boxer Turbo Diesel Engine sure looks like the early Goldwings. Could not find any specs on it other than it being 1998cc and about 100 to 120HP. Might not be bad in a trike. 
____________________ ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 02:28 pm | 36th Post |
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I'd be interested. 1000cc, opposed twin or 90 degree V-twin, water cooled, fully faired w/electric adjustable windscreen, supercharged, with 500 to 600 mile range. Granted, I'll not be trying to go 600 miles at one sitting. Living out in the sticks has seen me puting 4.5 gallons in my 1982 GL 500 I. Just that fuel stations aren't all that plentiful out here, and some places, they are even scarcer. Then again, Edwin Gray had developed a fuelless electromagnetic motor. He ran one prototype for 32 days. The batteries were still fully charged. Must have been something to it, because the LA prosecuter confiscated all his prototypes and papers without charging him with any wrongdoing.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 09:16 pm | 37th Post |
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Go on Honda...you know it makes sense My 2007 CR-V 2.2 litre CDT-I, is a storming engine, huge torque, and extremaly quiet at all speeds. I have been asked by some is it really a diesel? Sounds very quiet. A new generation diesel is expected later this year for the CR-V/Prelude range, rumoured to give 170bhp, with even more torque. Sure would be an astounding Wing methinks. Steve
____________________ Who Dares Wings... My bike history, years of purchase...(mostly 2nd owner) '76 Honda CD175 '77 Honda CB400/F '78 Honda CB750/F1 '78 Kawa Z650 '79 Kawa Z1000/A2 '79 Kawa Z1000/? '80 Kawa Z1000/ST '80 Yam XS1100 '80 Honda GL1000/K1 '83 BMW R100RS '84 Honda GL1000/KZ '03 Honda ST1100 '04 Honda ST1300 '04 Honda GL1800 |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 09:13 pm | 38th Post |
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Phils a winger at last wrote: I know everyone is going to think this is something that should not even be thought of let alone suggested but think about it. Modern diesel engines can be relatively quiet, develop high torque at low revs and offer incredible fuel economy. In a renault megane 1.5 diesel I achieved an average of 67mpg during a weeks toruing holiday and a maximum of 74mpg at a steady 55/60mph. Top gear pick up at this speed is adequate, if only I can educate the wife to ride the torque and not try to drive it like a 16valve petrol. Hi all, new here, I am picking this post to declare I am not a spammer!  But seriously, I would buy a diesel Wing in a heartbeat and if it had a 8 gallon Diesel tank, I would enter the Honda dealer doing cartwheels! 
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| Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 09:25 pm | 39th Post |
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Last edited on Tue Aug 5th, 2008 08:36 am by 100MPG ____________________ Keith from NY |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 06:19 am | 40th Post |
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Sounds cool to me.
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