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 Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 12:56 am 1st Post
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I think bikes should come with tire pressure monitors. All 08 model cars and trucks are mandated by the US govt. to have them, although most owners do not understand them and come to the dealer when the light comes on thinking there is a problem with it instead of putting air in the tire. I hate the things for that reason but on a bike it could be a life saver. Also I don't want to have to buy ABS, Nav, airbag and a 5 star dinner for Honda management, to get it.



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Check this sites

 

http://www.smartire.com/motorcycles/overview

 

http://www.tirepressuremonitor.com/support.htm

 

 



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Thanks chief, I'm going to keep this in mind for when I need new tires, too lazy to put them in before that. It's strange this topic has been on here quite a while and you are the first to reply to it. I thought it was a good idea and word is the next model goldwing will have it as standard equipment. I'm refering to the inside the tire type,
Wouldn't give $95 each for something to screw on the valve stem then whatever the monitor costs.

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I just look at mine when I stop and check them before I leave home.

Seems to work ok.



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I have thought about this kind of thing before.  I can see the advantage in a car. I think mainly it is a luxury, another gadget in a car. Or should I say a convenience? I used to have some little valve stem caps I put on my backhoe trailer that was supposed to tell me when the tires were low, they worked for a time, then the tire could go flat and the little red ring was still showing saying the tire was fine.

My question is this.....on a motorcycle to keep a constant check of your tires is mandatory. It is not like a car. A low tire or a blow out on a car is no big deal. You will survive it, or just ruin a tire, on a motorcycle it can kill you.

So my question is, if one does keep a check on ones tires, check the pressure frequently, and check for damage and wear......will a unit like this be beneficial? Will it tell you a tire is going to blow out or does it just blow due to road debris and damage, would it cause people to rely on this unit and not check their tires?

Those are some of the things that go through my mind about this kind of thing on a motorcycle.     Kit



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That's kind of what I said in the first place Kit, it's another gadget to fool with but the system has proven pretty reliable and will tell you if a tire is loosing air in time for you to stop and avoid a crash at least and maybe avoid your demise. The things you screw on the valve stem are a joke and not reliable at all, I see them all the time that don't work.
Rudy you are against everything as far as I can tell. :)



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Especially unnecessary complexity. 



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Davogd430 wrote: That's kind of what I said in the first place Kit, it's another gadget to fool with but the system has proven pretty reliable and will tell you if a tire is loosing air in time for you to stop and avoid a crash at least and maybe avoid your demise. The things you screw on the valve stem are a joke and not reliable at all, I see them all the time that don't work.
Rudy you are against everything as far as I can tell. :)

My answer thinking about it, or with anything new that is even remotely related to safety is simply, what can help you cannot hurt you. Kit



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Rudy, just how often do you stop and check your tire pressure, every mile, every 15 minutes or what? I don't have the time for that when I'm going somewhere. I like the idea of having them constantly monitored by something that will alert me if a tire is going flat.
I am an aginner of a lot of the gismos that are on most everything these days but this is something I think would be worth having. I was on a 4 lane today and felt a squirmy feeling that could have been a low tire, fortunately it wasn't but there was no place to just stop and check the tires so what would you do in this case?



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I dont know what agimmer is.  Sorry.

I have been riding for 40 years.  In that time I've had two blowouts at speed.
Neither of them would have been prevented with the device you are describing.
When a tire starts to get low at all you feel it in the road signature if you are paying attention at all.  If you don't constantly sense your tires then a machine likely won't save you either.
I check my tire pressure when I leave on any lengthy ride and at least once a week when commuting.  I look at the tires every time I get on and off the bike as a matter of course.

I don't see any value in this device unless you are just someone who blissfully rolls along not paying any attention to the dynamics of the machine under them.  Those people are going to get injured eventually.  These are often the same people who rely on others to do their maintenance for them and hope they know what they are doing.

But hey, don't let me stop you.  If it makes you feel more secure I'm happy for you.  Each of us has to figure out how we want to ride and survive and feel comfortable.

More devices that can fail and lull me into a sense of false security don't do that for me, personally.

That is the long version of what I meant by my short answer above.




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hey David,

i respect your opinion on this subject even though i don't see a need for it when regular maint is abided by but what's next?.....maybe a remote to turn on the aircon/ heating before you get home, a light to tell you the toast and coffee is ready and the list goes on.....:cool:


p.s when you buy a new wing you are buying the whole of Honda HQ in America dinner with the profit they make and they still have money left over..



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Rudy, agiNNer, someone who is against most everything. Bieng a southerner I would have thought you would be familiar with the term.
OK, I give up.



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My wife's Buick has an interesting tire pressure sensor system on it - it uses the ABS sensors.

After you check the tire pressures, you hit a button, and it resets the computer to "know" that the pressure is correct. Over the next few minutes of driving, using the ABS sensors for each wheel, it measures the number of times each tire rotates against the distance it knows it has driven (taken, I assume, off the speedo cable on the transmission).

If any tire starts to go low, the outside diameter of the tire is reduced, and that tire rotates faster. The computer sees this, and flicks a "tire pressure" warning light on. It will allow for (very) gradual tire wear, of course.

Neat system, and doesn't actually measure tire pressure at all.



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I have heard of that system, don't know how well it works. Moot point anyway as the 09 wings are supposed to get the TPMS anyway. 
Wonder if they got the idea from this thread?:baffled:



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anybody have a report on the reliability of these aftermarket TPMS's.jws



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I would be real surprised if Honda doesn't put tire pressure sensors on the next generation Wing.



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Well my 09 has the pressure monitoring and it managed to fail in the first two weeks I owned it, parts on order, I hope this isnt a sign of things to come, my daughters dodge mini van has them and she has had nothing but trouble with em ever since. I dont have a problem checking my tires regularly, been doing for 40 some odd years now.



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Like most here I check my tire pressures before every ride. Last year I went on a ride with friends to Calabogie (local twisties), a ride I've done many times before. Somewhere along the way I developed a slow leak and fortunately it was raining out so speeds were a little slower than normal. At our second stop of the day I checked the tire pressure, found the low tire, filled it and rode home slowly. With a TPMS I would have known much earlier that I had a problem.



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Grumpa - I'm with you - TPMS is no substitute for routine maintenance but you can't check them when your riding. Anything that makes my Wing safer is good - my question still is how well do they really work?

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TPMS works fine on my car. 

 

A TPMS on my bike would just get in the way of my espresso maker...and satellite dish. 

 

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