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| Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 05:47 am | 1st Post |
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From reading this forum and my own thoughts it seems we have 2 very diffrent schools of thought. That being said everyone seems to agree the storage is lacking on the 1800. I personally don't understand why my 82 1100 has larger bags and trunk than a 09 1800, Is this progress? Now why not introduce/reintroduce a Goldwing with a 1100-1500cc opposed 4 motor. Just a classic SIMPLE tourbike. Just the basics, No need for all the dodads. Radio, mabie a cb but that is about it. Give it a retro style fairing and lights for those of us that think the 1800 is ugly. Then produce the 2000cc wiz bang with all the gadgets for those that want all the bells.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 11:10 am | 2nd Post |
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THEY ALREADY HAVE IT ..THE st1300
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 01:12 pm | 3rd Post |
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Yes, it seems that Honda is stuck in what may simply be referred to as the human physical limitations zone. I remember a stripped down 1500 from the early nineties, the 1500 interstate. It didn't sell well and only lasted a few years. Unfortunately, the thing still weighed a 'ton' and the handling characteristics were no better perhaps worse than the 'standard' bike. If Honda wants to do basic, then they will need something like the 1300 that WEXY mentioned above or even an updated Pacific Coast. http://www.motorbyte.com/mmm/pages/reviews/pacific8_98.htm I remember riding one of these back in 1989 at the Honda shop while I was getting tires replaced on the 1500. It was nimble and very responsive. It had a v-twin engine as I recall.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 02:05 pm | 4th Post |
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wexy wrote: THEY ALREADY HAVE IT ..THE st1300With all due respect, tain't so. The ST1300 is a lovely bike, but it is not a small Wing. We rode one for an afternoon, lots of fun, but an 800km day two up, not a hope.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 10:00 pm | 5th Post |
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I think what is needed is more like an updated silverwing gl650. Perhaps more like a 1100cc motor. a little lighter and smaller would appeal to shorter people male and female. it would also be more fuel efficient and cost less. A lot of people like the big wings but are overwelmed by the size weight and cost. My friend Dorie loves to ride and is very experienced but being so short and with a bad back she needs a smaoller lighter bike. I let her riede my gl1100 and she rides it like a pro.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 01:37 am | 6th Post |
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Bob W wrote: I think what is needed is more like an updated silverwing gl650. Perhaps more like a 1100cc motor. a little lighter and smaller would appeal to shorter people male and female. it would also be more fuel efficient and cost less. A lot of people like the big wings but are overwelmed by the size weight and cost. My friend Dorie loves to ride and is very experienced but being so short and with a bad back she needs a smaoller lighter bike. I let her riede my gl1100 and she rides it like a pro. Honda already has a lighter, streamlined, better handling bikeon the floor.......... and I'm on one! The ST1300 sports tourer! If you shorter people would try it, you'll never go back.... ever!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 02:03 am | 7th Post |
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CJ you are right I just think that a lot of people areafraid of a bikke over a liter and there are not any purpose built touring bikes like the old Silverwings.
____________________ 2008 GL1800 '81 GL1100 '85 BMW K100rt '91 Nighthawk 750 None of my bikes make much noise. veho illic quod tergum |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 02:03 am | 8th Post |
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CJ you are right I just think that a lot of people areafraid of a bikke over a liter and there are not any purpose built touring bikes like the old Silverwings.
____________________ 2008 GL1800 '81 GL1100 '85 BMW K100rt '91 Nighthawk 750 None of my bikes make much noise. veho illic quod tergum |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 02:58 am | 9th Post |
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I think reintroducing an S model would be a good idea.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 03:23 pm | 10th Post |
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MADDOG355 wrote: From reading this forum and my own thoughts it seems we have 2 very diffrent schools of thought. That being said everyone seems to agree the storage is lacking on the 1800. I personally don't understand why my 82 1100 has larger bags and trunk than a 09 1800, Is this progress? How about this little number?? No radio, no CB No Bags or Tail trunk. Automatic and sounds like fun! DN-01 from Honda's web site! 
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 04:40 pm | 11th Post |
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I just made the above pic my new desktop background. I would really like to check out one of those. CVT +1!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13th, 2008 03:20 pm | 12th Post |
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If the CVT+1 had saddle bags, and trunk it might be the ticket
____________________ 2008 GL1800 '81 GL1100 '85 BMW K100rt '91 Nighthawk 750 None of my bikes make much noise. veho illic quod tergum |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14th, 2008 07:47 am | 13th Post |
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That's a nice looking bike! It would look great in Wexy Tango Orange! 
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15th, 2008 10:08 pm | 14th Post |
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What I had in mind was a fully faired bike, With the hard bags and a removable trunk just like the 1100 but have a cleaner look (no rack) when the trunk is removed. Basicly just a slightly updated 1100 style bike. The best way to describe it would be a entry level tourer I guess. Somthing that would allow a person to go and buy a brand new bike for about half the cost of the top model and still have the basics to be able to ride across country in comfort.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16th, 2008 12:22 am | 15th Post |
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I was in the market for a new bike and would have for sure bought a 1800 if they made a stripped down version. A great ride but I don't want all the gizmos, doodads, and crap that they come stock with. If Honda made one in an "Interstate" version, I would buy it. In the end I will end up with what I want. I bought a Valkyrie and am outfitting it the way I want.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16th, 2008 11:30 pm | 16th Post |
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I know just what you mean Maddog. I don't want to spend a good portion of my retirement nest egg to buy a car on 2 wheels, no matter how comfortable or exhilarating it might be. I would buy this bike  in a second if it were available in North America at a reasonable price and the fairing beefed up a bit to give a little more protection around the edges. And, yes, CJ it is a ST but not a 1300. It's a 700 and not available on this side of the pond. Just would like to have it a little less SPORT and a bit more TOURING: and 1/2 the price of a 1300! When you live (i think it's better named "surviving") 700 miles from the nearest mountains you like to get there with some sense of comfort. It's hard to imagine SPORT riding across 700 miles of bald prairie! I crossed the prairies once on a 500 and couldn't enjoy the mountains due to the lack of sensation in my legs and butt for a month afterward. I said "NEVER AGAIN!" and bought the '78 (back in '79). I had to take it easier in the twisties but I still got the adrenalin rush I was after. And I got there in relative comfort. That 700 would be just the ticket IMHO. And with the 65 HP and 520 lbs dry weight it's only slightly less powerful but 150 lbs lighter than the '78. Perfect for a smaller rider and probably strong enough to haul a small trailer for two up over-exuberance.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16th, 2008 11:57 pm | 17th Post |
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i think honda needa a smaller wing to but i would like to see a glodwing classic. it could have the 1800 or what ever the motor on the next wing will be but i would like the styling to be more inline with the 1100/ 1200 / 1500. and hopefully the trunk will hold two fullface helmets unlike my 1500
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 07:52 pm | 18th Post |
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the silverwing didn't really catch on for several reasons, too high a cost, luaage not sufient, and the two cylinder buzz.... but something like a 1200 sure might fir the bill
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 08:20 pm | 19th Post |
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I've been at this cross-roads for quite some time now. I really like the looks of the 1200's, and I think the luggage space is aduquate but the aerodynamics could use some help. I really don't want or need an extra 100lbs as in the 1500's. I have been looking very hard at some 97/98's in the 400 miles around me on e-bay. But I'm still torn between investing $1,500. in up-grades for seat/suspension/lighting. Or going another $7/8K for the heavier "NEWER" 1500-6. Maybe it just boils down to having too many comfortable years/ miles on the 1200's and being slow or unwilling to change. I looked at a lot of great bikes at NASSIR and asked several queations, but that cross-roads intersection still has me wondering...  Last edited on Fri Nov 21st, 2008 08:22 pm by Shooter ____________________ For those who've never fought for it, the price of freedom shall never be known.... "Shooter" 1986 Interstate |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28th, 2008 05:11 am | 20th Post |
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I'd like to see a basic 1000cc flat four with a simple frame that would allow future generations of customizers to work on them. It is so difficult to customize modern bikes without just buying a bunch of bolt on "made for" accessories.
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