| Why will some dealers not work on Hondas over 10yrs old? |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27th, 2009 09:34 pm | 41st Post |
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my local honda dealer informed me that a lot of dealers will not work on bikes over 10 years old because the repair can lead into a small restoration job, where old bolts snap off etc , and then the cost starts to crepe up and up.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27th, 2009 11:36 pm | 42nd Post |
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SCUBA NUT wrote: ...dealers will not work on bikes over 10 years old because the repair can lead into a small restoration job, where old bolts snap off etc , ... OH the MINUSCULE cost of "THREAD RELEASE" grease on those bolts threads. 
____________________  ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___ FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 05:59 pm | 43rd Post |
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The difference between servicing and not serving is the same difference between a real mechanic with a true understanding of machinery and artistic trouble shooting skills and a mere parts replacer. We are all better off that the mere parts replacer stays away from our old AND NEW bikes. Trial and error is always expensive no matter how old the machine.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 06:46 pm | 44th Post |
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My local dealer won't also touch my old bikes. As he doesn't offer me services on the older bikes, I will not force him to deal with my newer ones... Nowadays I happily ride 195 miles to my next nearest dealer, and I feel very happy favouring a dealer that acts correctly, and mostly I enjoy the ride home as much as I enjoyed my ride to the dealer and the talking with the outstandingly skilful mechanic.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13th, 2009 03:17 am | 45th Post |
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You won't see that at a Harley dealer!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 22nd, 2009 04:24 am | 46th Post |
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WELL THEN.. . . . . ...somehow "WE Wing owners/riders" have to make them 'CHANGE' their way of doing business. Any suggestions?
____________________ ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23rd, 2009 05:36 pm | 47th Post |
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Send them a copy of this thread, get all the members to post on it, (if they havent already) 
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23rd, 2009 05:52 pm | 48th Post |
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The Big Dog wrote: Send them a copy of this thread, get all the members to post on it, (if they havent already) Think our 12,000+ worldwide members is enough to sway them?
____________________ ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23rd, 2009 05:54 pm | 49th Post |
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I think it would be a good start, maybe a few other Goldwing sites, (if there are any others)
____________________ Never Ride Faster Than Your Angel Can Fly Skype The_Big_Dog1 Proud member of the Patriot Guard Riders Id# 186868 |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23rd, 2009 07:20 pm | 50th Post |
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"Yah but", when a person, business or company is FORCED to do work, it'll almost always be substandard quality. Good quality work comes from "Proud workers". I'm not sure I could trust my life with my bikes brakes to that type of persona. Motorcycles used to be a mans "tinker machine". But with all the complex systems & electronics these days those "tinker machines are nearly a by-gone era. There is a business to be started but it will take a "committed few" and who are in the "right places" to get it off the ground.
____________________ ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23rd, 2009 08:21 pm | 51st Post |
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I hadn't thought of it that way, hmmmm Maybe we should find a way of making them take more pride in the fact that they have soo many (older) bikes on the road, and owners willing to keep the older bikes on the road, Make it all about PRIDE in Honda's or Goldwings
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23rd, 2009 09:11 pm | 52nd Post |
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...Make it all about PRIDE in Honda's or Goldwings One thing that's really odd. When Honda made the long lasting Gold-Wing and "IF" they knew they were selling to proud owners, wouldn't that in itself beget an extended OEM parts stock and/or an external warehouse Honda-shop "repair life" much longer than 10 years? They (Honda & other Jap motorcycles) do have a rather long track record of long life vehicles. This makes me wonder if "they" only have short term pride per vehicle and/or it's only about sales? If it's only about sales possibly they've hit a brick wall with the 1800 Wing and pulled out of America knowing the price was going to be very high ($30K) in this economic poor time. With the Wing now back in their country, they have more control over what they'll offer in exports. While it was here, it was Americans who directed what the Wing should be. Though we're still only conjecturing.
____________________ ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2009 11:24 pm | 53rd Post |
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well now,the newest 1500 is 10 years old and my 1800 is almost 10 years old...........................whatter we gonna do?
____________________ "Treat me good,I'll treat you better.. Treat me bad,I'll treat you worse"..Sonny Ba. 1947 cushman 1986 Gold Wing 1954 zundapp 1962 BSA gold star 500 1993 Gold Wing asp. 1965 royal enfield 2001 GL1800 1968 Bsa super rocket 1982 250 yamaha |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25th, 2009 01:45 am | 54th Post |
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redeyes88 wrote: well now,the newest 1500 is 10 years old and my 1800 is almost 10 years old.....whatter we gonna do? LOL In a way, we're coming to this circle... (Read This Forum) It answers a lot of questions & settles some worries.
____________________ ___"Enjoying lifes fires, minus two tires."___FVM 07-2009 _ _ Titled: "OIL CHANGE?" Know its new taste, and be loyal, you'll know when, to change that oil. Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows. And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil. If that soured oil turns to paste, new motors cost plenty, what a waste. If friends find out, thy honor baste.(*) Best get to it, with undue haste! __(*)thrashed - Updated Jan-2-2012___ |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 02:18 am | 55th Post |
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Shawnee Honda in Shawnee Oklahoma, will work on all gold wings if they can get the parts.. I will only go to them as I like there attatude and workman ship..
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12th, 2009 04:19 pm | 56th Post |
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I was told by a dealer that they would not work on older bikes but now that the economy is in the tank they sent me a letter telling me they now proudly work on older bikes. I will never even buy a screw from them. They should have thought about customer service before the economy took a dump. I do what I can and what I can't there is a guy who works on anything at what I feel is a decent price and does a good job. He is even willing to let me watch and learn. I will use him and spread the word about him to anyone who will listen. My .02 worth.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12th, 2009 07:59 pm | 57th Post |
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Local dealer in my town has a bad attitude about older bikes and just wants to sell you new ones. I agree with: Dealers don't have techs that are experienced on old bikes, because they are often too CHEAP to pay them enough to keep them from moving on. Found a super shop in same town and the guy works out of his garage. He has been working on bikes for over 30yrs. His prices are very fair and work is great. Takes his time and not your money....
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12th, 2009 11:22 pm | 58th Post |
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It's sad any way you look at it and I can understand both sides to a point! Look at what they charge an hour, any way, to me it's a lot. In today's economy, I agree if they couldn't work on it before, why work on it now!! I am seeing some parts N/A and I am coming to find what I need on flea bay ! When it comes the day I can't find parts in need, I'll probably buy another 10yr. old bike, one I can work on! Gee maybe by then I'll buy a Harley or at least one that doesn't vibrate my hands to sleep !  Bob
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 08:35 pm | 59th Post |
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I'm guessing why Honda dealers or dealers in general won't work on older cycles. 1. Lack of knowledge. 2. Parts are sometimes a pain to find or are not made anymore. 3. Liability, I would think that this is more than likely the main reason for a dealer not to deal with an older bike, I have to wonder if their Insurance company has to do with anything...People are killed on cycles and if someone blames a shop for the accident, that could be a reason, or maybe not.. I know this, there are a lot of dealers that will not work on my 81, this site has been a blessing for me, I have solved a lot of my problems myself thanks to imformation on this site...
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 11:26 pm | 60th Post |
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This is really not a complex issue. Money is money. If the dealer offers the customer a good faith estimate, and the customer is willing to pay..............why not? More than likely the customer base will be repetitive. Even if a customer refuses to pay, the dealer can always sell the bike and probably make a profit and even gain a new customer. Besides, Goldwingers are of a different mindset. They’re loyal to their bikes and willing to pay whatever it cost to ensure reliability. Nothing can compare to peace of mind, when you are 500 miles from home on Route 66, and you’re a 100 miles from the nearest sign of civilization! Do most auto manufactures offer repair service to even much older vehicles? Of course they do. I doubt if Honda Corp. cares about this issue. This is a collective limitation decision devised by local dealers.
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