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werner1800
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Posted: Sat Dec 10th, 2005 12:04 am | 1st Post |
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| I feel automatic transmission is missing. Technology now exists for AT to be better than manual. It is like this on many cars, why not on Goldwing?
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andy1800
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Posted: Sat Dec 10th, 2005 12:11 am | 2nd Post |
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| Yes, tiptronic tranny would be good, provided that the brakes would work in the wet. I'm no fan of auto-tranny and emergency braking in winter.
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philcsand
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Posted: Fri Feb 24th, 2006 07:59 am | 3rd Post |
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Wouldn't an auto tranny be dangerous on a bike?
Think about if the bike decided to change gears while you were cornering? It could be fairly dangerous. Probably why the hondamatic never caught on.
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exavid
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Posted: Sun Feb 26th, 2006 07:31 am | 4th Post |
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| Rather depends on how the transmission shifted I would imagine. A CVT setup wouldn't cause a problem, neither would a shiftless system like the old GM turbo glide as used in the 1957 Chevy (I think it was). A well engineered set up that shifted smoothly ought to corner okay.
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BenMC
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Posted: Sun Feb 26th, 2006 02:58 pm | 5th Post |
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| CVT is the way forward, with a full-auto option. One of the mid-size Suzuki scooters already has this.
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leolarry
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Posted: Sun Feb 26th, 2006 05:58 pm | 6th Post |
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| I think maybe 1950 or 51 I had a 1952 with power gilde there is a motorcyle with and auto_trans i looked at it at a motorcycle show about a month ago but can remember the name .
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Jluvs2dive
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Posted: Tue Mar 7th, 2006 05:31 am | 7th Post |
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philcsand wrote: Wouldn't an auto tranny be dangerous on a bike?
The scooters already have an automatic tranny, it's one of the things that makes them a scooter I believe. The Silver Wing is a 600cc bike that easily travels at highway speeds, and it has the Automatic V-Matic belt drive tranny.
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UBarW
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Posted: Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 05:50 am | 8th Post |
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| How much addl horsepower would there need to be to drive a cvt?
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exavid
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Posted: Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 05:00 pm | 9th Post |
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| Seems like it ought to be possible to design a computer controlled, electrically shifted and clutched automatic conversion to a mechanical transmission.
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gwingdad
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Posted: Fri Mar 24th, 2006 02:54 pm | 10th Post |
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| New to the forum and came across this thread. The brand of motorcycle Leolarry may be thinking of is called Ridley. They make cruiser-styled motorcycles with CVT transmissions. Briefly looked at them for my wife, but she didn't like the styles.
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Jluvs2dive
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Posted: Fri Mar 24th, 2006 03:26 pm | 11th Post |
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Welcome to the best Goldwing forum in the galaxy gwingdad! Thanks for the info on the Ridley Motorcycles. http://www.ridleymotorcycle.com/
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ringo00
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Posted: Fri Mar 24th, 2006 07:41 pm | 12th Post |
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Hey now, don't knock the Hondamatic. That was a sweet little bike. I don't know about putting an auto on a bike. Call me a snob, but if it were easy to ride a bike, everyone would do it. I kinda like the mystery and exclusivity of my non-biker friends staring in awe as i roll up on two wheels.
It would make a nice option, not standard equipment.
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pinkpork
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Posted: Fri Mar 31st, 2006 10:20 am | 13th Post |
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 this weeks motorcycle news,theres a article on a new bike for 2007 hondas dn-01 hydraulic drive, it uses a v twin engine developed from the deauvillie,but insted of gears the dn-01s engine is connected to a hydraulic pump,which sends hydraulic fluid to a turbine driving the rear wheel via a shaft,valves alter the flow of hydraulic fluid to offer a complete variable transmission. thats all i can find on it at the moment,but will keep my eyes open
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papasmurf
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Posted: Sat Apr 1st, 2006 12:45 pm | 14th Post |
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| Many of you folks here probably never heard of it, but way back when [in the late 70s], Moto Guzzi sold an automatic transmissioned 1,000 cc cycle called the M G Convert! Get this: A funeral director down in TX had 6 of them and used them as a private funeral procession escort team, no less! It had 2 ranges[hi-lo], with downshift lever operated by left foot. Go to ebay and type in item # 8051352591, to see a picture of the LAPD VERSION of the machine. TTFN.......papasmurf in NH Last edited on Sat Apr 1st, 2006 02:17 pm by papasmurf
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colbee
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Posted: Sun Apr 2nd, 2006 08:14 pm | 15th Post |
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Hey guys,
Read my signature-line - been there a while now. For 'twist 'n' go ' read CVT transmission.
The Yam TMax XP500 (i.e. 500cc, well just under) is a scooter which is essentially a bike set-up from a frame and engine position point of view. It rides and corners like a bike and is no problem in corners and curves.
On the odd occasion I have been out on it with my mates on their Wings I have had no problem keeping up; in fact it is quicker handling due to its smaller dimensions. It doesn't have the same top speed and it is no substitute for the Wing, but it is a good avertisement for autotran. Always in the right 'gear' at the right time. Braking? Can't say I've noticed any problem; and I am not technically proficient enough to know whether CVT offers greater engine braking than ordinary autotran.
I think a CVT Wing would be an attractive proposition, but Honda would probably make it prohibitively priced - unless someone beat them to it of course.
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Rick S
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Posted: Wed Apr 5th, 2006 02:52 pm | 16th Post |
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werner1800 wrote: I feel automatic transmission is missing. Technology now exists for AT to be better than manual. It is like this on many cars, why not on Goldwing?
Ok, it's not a GW, but, here you go.
http://freeclassifiedguide.com/rc/viewad.asp?id=50311580575100009
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Night Flyer
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Posted: Thu Apr 6th, 2006 01:11 am | 17th Post |
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I had a Honda 400 with a 2 position automatic in it.
It had a high and low setting and worked quite well and was quite fun to drive. It downshifted itself. Wish I had kept it.
This Itallian Diamo Velux also has a cvt transmission, along with windshield wipers and a digital rear view mirror. All the things I think I could use more than the airbag. 
http://www.ls-motorsports.com
Click on the picture of the Velux to see it.
On the other hand, my '95 20th Anniversary edition Wing came with a book that 'said they became too heavy with the autos trans installed and that Honda actually did experiment with them years before for the Wings.
I would surely like to have an automatic on my wing too, for the same reasons I don't have a 4 speed in my Caddy.....but I'm not 25 anymore either.
Here's a picture of the AutoMatic 400 Honda
Attachment: Honda Automatic 400.JPG (Downloaded 342 times) Last edited on Thu Apr 6th, 2006 01:15 am by Night Flyer
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revblues
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Posted: Thu Apr 6th, 2006 02:59 pm | 18th Post |
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That blue Honda-matic 400 is identical to my first street bike. Mucho nostalgia.
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Night Flyer
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Posted: Thu Apr 6th, 2006 09:45 pm | 19th Post |
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Hey RevBlues,
If you like that, here is another picture that shows the transmission indicator too.
I loved that bike.
It was a nice running machine, and my wife used to drive it too.
I still was hoping to see an 8 CYLINDER WING, with AUTO TRANS!
Attachment: 1980 Honda CB 400 AUTO TRANS.JPG (Downloaded 333 times) Last edited on Thu Apr 6th, 2006 11:29 pm by Night Flyer
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gwingdad
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Posted: Mon Apr 17th, 2006 01:16 am | 20th Post |
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| Can everyone say Honda FJS600 Silverwing? It's their CVT "luxury" scooter. Rated to do 100+mph.
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