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Littlejohn
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2006 04:49 am | 1st Post |
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The 1800 has been going since 2001 and isn't it about time Honda introduced an 1800SE model as they did with the 1500. Most wingers take the basic bike and lavish an absolute fortune on it by adding aftermarket accessories. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy a bike new with some of the more must-have accessories fitted as standard. Heated grips, heated seat, electric centre stand and electric screen as standard would be an attractive package. At the moment I have a huge list of stuff in my garage that I have removed from the bike to replace with aftermarket bits to dress the wing. These bits and pieces are of no use to me now and there is very little second hand value in them so they are just gathering dust. Personally I would have paid more for my 1800 wing for those extra bits fitted professionally as standard on an upgraded Special Edition model. Wouldn't it be great to buy an 1800 with the fog lights, rear spoiler, rear pannier running lights, backrest, rear speakers, CD Player etc all fitted at the factory. We can only dream. 
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SHREK snr
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2006 05:23 am | 2nd Post |
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Littlejohn how much do you think Honda will charge us for the SE .I think the 1800 new is expensive enougth as it is, also they have tried to make the new wing have a lighter & sportier feel , the options you suggest are going to effect price & weight. Thats my thoughts on a 1800SE option. 
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Littlejohn
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2006 07:53 am | 3rd Post |
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If you go to any Goldwing event you will not see many naked wings. If fact you will see a growing number of owners trying to dress their wing to the extremes just to be different. There is a market for the SE if it was available as an option, giving owners freedom of choice to buy either a GL or an SE. There must be a mountain of disgarded plastic bits from 1800's lying in owners garages having been replaced by nice chrome aftermarket bits. At the moment we buy a bike costing a fortune, which Honda know there is good chance it will be dressed and we eventually end up with a shed full of no longer needed expensive bits that nobody wants to buy from you. Seems a terrible waste of money but then that is part of being a winger.
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SHREK snr
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2006 08:18 am | 4th Post |
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Littlejohn your absolutlly right Ihave been in GWOCGB for 24 years been to loads of treffens & wingdings and other bike related events. There has allways been the after market chrome dealers with all the bells and whistles one could ever need. The question is do you really need them?? Every body wants to make there bike look different , it seems to me that they just end up looking the same. But thats the individualls choice, lets just keep the initial cost as low as possible , id rather put gas in my bike then some off the shiney bits, my view only. PS I have strange feeling we have met .
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Wildcat
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 07:28 am | 5th Post |
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Shrek I think ya missed his point, a CHOICE between GL or SE. Makes sense to me, kinda like the Aspy and Interstate on the older ones.
Now to win a lotto so I can buy a 2007 SE2000 Red of course 
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SHREK snr
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 07:46 am | 6th Post |
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HI wildcat Yep maybe I did but with the options on 2006 model you have a choice. Look what happened with 1500 , first you had 1500/6 then Aspencade then allong came SE then Honda added the no frills Interstate. My point is at each model change the price changes too. Lets try and get Honda make this bike more accessable at a fare price . Dont forget we dont usually get all the options in europe .
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Littlejohn
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 06:16 pm | 7th Post |
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I think the point is that if I buy a new BMW car I can order it with a load of extra accessories and pay the additional cost if this is what I want. When I go into a dealer to buy a new 2006 1800 wouldn't it be nice if I could give him a list of what I wanted and have the bike delivered direct from the factory with those bits fitted.
To make this viable the price would have to reflect the fact that the ordered items would be instead of the normal bits that I wouldn't need so I would only expect to pay for what I get. I would then end up with the bike I want and not have a shed load of no longer needed but brand new bits and pieces that had been taken off. If you were to add up the recommended price direct from Honda of the bits I have in the shed it would stagger you. Put them on ebay and if they sell at all, it would be for a very small fraction of their real value. I have a brand new seat from my 2003 1800 totally unmarked in my roofspace having fitted a corbin. It is worth a fortune to buy a new one but worth very little second hand if you see what I mean and I won't be giving it away.
I bought an escapade trailer from California sidecars which came with an available list of accessories which I ordered fitted at time of purchase. Can you imagine the problem if I was only able to order it plain and then had to order Chrome wheels, Chrome drawbar etc etc. As for the bike I feel Honda would serve a market if they offered upgraded accessories direct from the factory at time of delivery. I know I would fancied my bike delivered with chrome wheels but to get them you have to send your old ones to the USA to an aftermarket retailer on an exchange deal and incur heavy postage charges. It is all about freedom of choice. If you want a plain bike then you order one but the option of buying one in SE spec would be a nice addition given that many wingers very rarely leave their bike in the standard factory condition.
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berts1200
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 08:29 pm | 8th Post |
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| Good idea, I think Honda has missed opportunity for this with 2006 models. The ABS model with GPS and heated saddles should be the SE, maybe with inserted color transfers like the GL1500SE had. The model with no GPS and just heated seats could have been Aspencade.
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wexy
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Posted: Tue Oct 17th, 2006 10:45 am | 9th Post |
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Yep ,,I was surprised that honda still has not offered a SE version for 2007 ,,
HELLO ....ANYBODY FROM HONDA LISTENING ???????
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Silverfox
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Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2006 10:27 am | 10th Post |
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Reading your posts, there appears to be a clash of what folks expect an SE or other model number might have . Littlejohn states that he has a garage full of bits including seat etc. Well many of those bits still wouldn't come on a SE model if the current options were what was available. They would still have to be obtained from aftermarket firms like say Corbin. What folks are doing really, is personalising their bikes, so, yes, there will be unwanted parts left over. In time, they might gain in value as people damage their bikes and want replacement parts.
Now it is fine for Honda to label their different option levels differently, but you could just as easily go down to a motor car shop and buy some letters to put on your bike. SE will cost you about £2.00 
Surely a more valid request would be to be able to select the options that you might want? Some might really like the "blow up doll", but not require music blasting or sat nav that can't be moved from vehicle to vehicle. So, like car manufacturers, wouldn't equipment levels be better ordered as required, but just start with a base model or two? This is where Littlejohn is correct, that we are limited, (especially in Europe) and in this day and age, all the bells and whistles should be available where ever.
I do find it strange that all the model options are not offered worldwide. Surely Honda have to comply with regs. but I can't see anything on the upper specs that would break European regs.
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exavid
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Posted: Mon Oct 23rd, 2006 06:16 am | 11th Post |
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berts1200 wrote: The ABS model with GPS and heated saddles should be the SE,
Personally I think ALL the new Goldwings should include the ABS and airbag as standard equipment.
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GoWing
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Posted: Mon Oct 23rd, 2006 10:38 am | 12th Post |
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| This is all just a play with letters. Honda could easily just call the current top spec 1800 an SE and then everyone would be happy. Of course, as usual there would be a big price hike for the privilege of having the SE badge...
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wingmaster
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Posted: Tue Oct 24th, 2006 01:42 am | 13th Post |
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| I wouldn't mind seeing a few extra cc's with the letters 'SE'. Like in the form of a 2000 or 2200 cc engine option. Now that would get my attention. Oh, and red, of course!
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Kikker
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Posted: Thu Nov 30th, 2006 01:33 am | 14th Post |
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A lot of people like to personalize their bikes.
As long as I've been riding Goldwings........29 years, there were always more lower-end Goldwings with accessories that added up to way more than what the SE models and the Aspencades cost completely loaded.
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joelhar
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Posted: Fri Jul 13th, 2007 03:35 pm | 15th Post |
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I like the upgrade option, but there is a catch.
Hondaline accessories are... okay - for lack of a better word. We all have our preferences for add-ons. If and when Honda begins adding standard add-ons 'we' might lose our 'individuality' of add-ons. Not that that is a bad thing, we could still add pinstriping, names, etc to the outside...
If Honda came up with some true high-quality accessories that surpass or at least rival the most popular accessories, I believe the SE might be a viable option.
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dubtom
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Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2007 03:39 am | 16th Post |
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I'm a valk owner who secretly covets a goldwing. I was in a shop in Dublin recently (bikeworld) and they have a goldwing there, not sure if it's a GL. It had heated grips and seat, reverse, satnav and sterio and probably a few other things I didn't notice. Have Honda introduced the SE version. I've been reading this site for a while and understood that honda europe don't usually include the 'extra's that the original poster mentioned, but yet this one had all the bells and whistles. Have honda been listening or was it perhaps an american version. It was priced at €29000.
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joelhar
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Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2007 01:02 pm | 17th Post |
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Chances are very, very good that was a GL1800. The heated grips, etc come with the 'comfort package'. Most likely the one thing you couldn't see was if it had ABS brakes or not, but it probably did.
It's a sweet ride, rides like a sport bike, sits like a reading chair. There are many good features and very few not so great features. Those who have one either love it or don't, and those who don't usually attribute it to the behaviour of the older riders (not braggadocios, don't speed outrageously and don't ride out of control).
It actually seems to be a mindset and Honda seems to have a slight problem here - this bike caters to the more mature rider but the characteristics of the bike should be drawing in a much younger and adventurous crowd. In order to attract a younger crowd while simultaneously keeping us older folks as loyal customers, there will come a day where a 'sporty' version will be released and the top-of-the-line model will include some more comfort and functionality features, along with a higher price tag. But we're talking in the years to come. Maybe 2009 or 2010 but Honda is keeping future developments very close hold.
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dubtom
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Posted: Sat Jul 21st, 2007 12:59 am | 18th Post |
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Would that 'sportier' version not have been the valk? From what I read it's seems to have been a very popular bike, although in Honda sales terms that may not have been enough to justifie keeping it going (here in Ireland amounts are likely in the hundred scale or less) and the Rune is vertially non existant,I know of two. I've only recently got the valk and after planning a 4000Km round trip I realise the wing would have been the better choice, and thats before I even start Funnily enough, the goldwing has never appealed to me before, I've been riding on and off for twenty years and it just never entered my head as an option, now I can't get in out of my head and I've never even rode one. Maybe I'm getting old (no offence intended) or possibly more likely, seeing sense. In any case I'm going to get one eventually, whether new or old I don't know, new ones seem to have increased in price by about 6K judging by steves breakdown of prices since 0'2, so maybe I shouldn't wait too long
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