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 Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 06:00 pm41st Post
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I have a question, my 1100 came with the toggle switch already installed, as i am assuming the thermal switch broke.  So if i were to purchase the geo switch and install it would i need to disconnect the toggle switch, do the both actually attact at the same spot?

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 Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 06:19 pm42nd Post
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Yes, you can remove the added switch. Just to be on the safe side leave the switch alone and connect the thermoswitch in parallel to the added switch. Then leave the added switch in the off position. Ride the bike for awhile to make sure the new thermoswitch works okay for you. If it doesn't you can always use the added switch, if it does work okay you can remove the added switch. I don't think there will be a problem with the thermoswitch that Peterbylt is using but you have the opportunity to go the belt-and-suspenders route since the added switch is already there.



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 Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 01:36 am43rd Post
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junemann wrote: I have a question, my 1100 came with the toggle switch already installed, as i am assuming the thermal switch broke.  So if i were to purchase the geo switch and install it would i need to disconnect the toggle switch, do the both actually attact at the same spot?

I attached my bypass switch right at the thermal switch so I would not have to cut the original wiring harrness. When I put in the Geo switch I left the bypass switch in place as a backup but have not had to use it since the Geo switch was installed.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 24th, 2008 01:56 pm44th Post
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 Posted: Mon Mar 24th, 2008 02:00 pm45th Post
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Just wanted to let everyone know for an FYI, I called an Advance Auto Parts today about this switch and they let me know that they recently switched over to a different model and no longer carry the BWD.  but they do have a new brand, forgot what exactly it was but this new switch is $42.94.  Has anyone purchased one of these since they made the switch do they work just as well?

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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 02:12 am46th Post
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The information in this post is INCORRECT!!! I sincerely apologize for the Misinformation. The Honda Thermostatic switch IS NOT an m16 thread!

My Mistake. My Fault. My Error. And to my surprise when my new thermostatic switch literally fell in the hole. I thought I did my homework....and I also thought I was the smartest man in these shoes...Apparently that is not the case. Again my sincerely apology.

 

GL1100 Replacement Thermostatic Fan Switches

Believe this info to be accurate but please Always Investigate by asking your sales person questions Before purchasing.

Note: The following switches have a lower temp range than OEM Honda. OEM Temp Range: Closed Switch Temp Range=98c to 102c, Open Switch Temp Range=93c to 97c.

All are  m16 X 1.5,  N.O.,  4mm Male Bayonet Connection, Closed Switch Temp Range=88.5c to 91.5c . Open Switch Temp Range=82c to 88c.

Beck Arnley 201-0817  ($20.00 Rockauto.com, Also Gates T274 $16)

Borg Warner  TFS500

Echlin FS-130  (36.77 Napa)

Wells  SW504

Niehof   WA-639B

Four Seasons  35934

 

Last edited on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 12:28 am by radiohurtz

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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 04:37 am47th Post
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:waving::waving:  Welcome to the World's Greatest Goldwing Site radiohurtz!  :waving::waving:

First post and a good one! When you have a chance please put your location in your profile.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 07:24 am48th Post
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exavid wrote: :waving::waving:  Welcome to the World's Greatest Goldwing Site radiohurtz!  :waving::waving:

First post and a good one! When you have a chance please put your location in your profile.


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 Posted: Thu Apr 10th, 2008 10:20 pm49th Post
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Been reading this thread and I was wondering if this will work for an 86 1200I. My fan is currently wired with a toggle switch.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 11:41 am50th Post
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radiohurtz wrote: GL1100 Replacement Thermostatic Fan Switches

Believe this info to be accurate but please Always Investigate by asking your sales person questions Before purchasing.

Note: The following switches have a lower temp range than OEM Honda. OEM Temp Range: Closed Switch Temp Range=98c to 102c, Open Switch Temp Range=93c to 97c.

All are  m16 X 1.5,  N.O.,  4mm Male Bayonet Connection, Closed Switch Temp Range=88.5c to 91.5c . Open Switch Temp Range=82c to 88c.

Beck Arnley 201-0817  ($20.00 Rockauto.com, Also Gates T274 $16)

Borg Warner  TFS500

Echlin FS-130  (36.77 Napa)

Wells  SW504

Niehof   WA-639B

Four Seasons  35934

 

Excellent post! Thanks for the information and from the Lone Star State of TexaS radiohurtz, and W E L C O M E to the best Goldwing Forum on the http://www.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 07:48 pm51st Post
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bbstacker,

The above mentioned Thermo Switches should fit all models from 1975 thru 1987. A word of caution......I do not recommend running the OEM thermostat with these Thermo Switches. Your fan will be running all the time. I use the Stant 13868 82 deg C.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 05:52 pm52nd Post
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The wells # SW504 switch is available at autozone. It looks identical to the original oem switch and you do not need to change the wiring over. You will need to have them cross reference it sice there are (2) of the same numbers in their system. One of the numbers is available as stock in some stores. I just picked it up for $15.99.

Autozone # 002683

I'll take a pic tonight and post it.

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 Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 12:31 am53rd Post
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The information in my above post is INCORRECT!!! I sincerely apologize for the Misinformation. The Honda Thermostatic switch IS NOT an m16 thread! See above post.

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 Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 10:46 am54th Post
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Yes, I realized that last night when I went to install it. The threads are incorrect.

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 Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 06:15 pm55th Post
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I just spent 30 min. with the guy at Advance Auto trying to get the part described here in the pics. The reference to the 94 Geo doesn't work. The part number in the pic on the box is not in stock in any warehouse nor crosses over with NAPA, O'Reilly or Autozone. I think maybe that was the only one in existence.

Damn... had my hopes up...

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 Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 02:07 am56th Post
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I bought the Wells SW 504 and it does not fit the 78. The threads are too small. It just falls in the hole.  Take that one off the 1000 list. Taking the old one with me tomorrow to try and match one.

 



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 Posted: Sat May 3rd, 2008 02:10 pm57th Post
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dan filipi wrote: I dont mean to step on anyone's toes, on the contrary I'm a nice guy, really!

I'm the first to admit when I'm wrong but when I'm certain I'm right then I need to clear the air, not just for myself and my knowingness but for all others concerned who are looking for factual information not just theory.

They say a picture tells a thousand words, in this case a video tells a million.

Note that there is nearly a 6 amp load at start up on both the positive AND negative.
I guess if anyone still needs proof there is indeed a conciderable load on the thermo switch your just gonna have to come over to my house for me to show you.
I'll buy the beer.

http://filipi.com/Fanload.mov

Not to dampen your spirits, but I saw 5.11 amps on the pos side and 6.21 amps on the neg side. So IF a relay is needed, wouldn't go on th eneg side? Also, what about the horns, light, turn signals and other electric parts? What do they draw?

 

Also I've owned a Geo and I believe the fan is a bit bigger than a GW. I would think a larger motor would draw more amps than a smaller one (but I'm not even close to knowing alot about this stuff).

 

The next question I have is, would this work for the GL1000?



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 Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 03:03 am59th Post
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Texson wrote: I just spent 30 min. with the guy at Advance Auto trying to get the part described here in the pics. The reference to the 94 Geo doesn't work. The part number in the pic on the box is not in stock in any warehouse nor crosses over with NAPA, O'Reilly or Autozone. I think maybe that was the only one in existence.

Damn... had my hopes up...

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The Borg Warner part # TFS-596 is still a good #. The reference to a 94 GEO is also good. There are several different metros like "LSI" , "MR"  etc. The TFS-596 is for a 94 metro "MR" series with 1.o L. engine. Car Quest part # is TS-306. Maybe the guy at Advance Auto you talked to had been doing a taste test with carb cleaner or something just before you walked in.:cheeky1: 



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