| Aftermarket fuel pump options for GL1200? | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 05:15 pm | 1st Post |
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Has anyone done this? I wonder if anyone has, and can share a part number. I would imagine flow rate is important...
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 06:14 pm | 2nd Post |
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There some electric pumps you can subsitute the 2 to 4 lbs type work for 1100's and 1000's. Regquires a mod to the tach housing for the mounting and an electrical hook up but beyond that not a big deal.. Randall sells the best mod kit..but you can do it yourself if money is an issue for about $60..pump, plate wires and fuse.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 01:40 am | 3rd Post |
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Flow rate would be less important than pressure. If it pumped a gallon in 10 minutes it would be enough but too much pressure would be a big problem, I'm assuming you are working on a carburated bike.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 01:45 am | 4th Post |
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Yeah, its a 1200 Carbed. I want to make sure it flows the 750cc that the manual says the 87 carbs should have...
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 01:48 am | 5th Post |
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Yep it's been done. Randakk has a kit for putting an electric fuel pump on a 1000 or 1100. It shouldn't be difficult to put on one a 1200. Facet makes a nice little 12V fuel pump. 4psi output which should be about right for a carbureted 'Wing. Here's some at J.C. Whitney.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 02:26 pm | 6th Post |
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Hello All, I have thought of keeping one of these on hand in case my fuel pump ever dies on the road. I have 15k miles but its an 85. Does anyone have any idea of how likely they are to fail all at once or do they slow down... Also, I remember a friend having one of these on a hot rod and it made a lot of noise, does anyone have one installed and is the noise an issue? Maybe his wasnt mounted very well and it was singing? Thanks
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 11:07 pm | 7th Post |
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I've never heard an electric fuel pump make any noise except when you first turn the key on some make a buzz until the fuel pressure comes up. I wouldn't worry about carrying one as a spare, if you have an on the road failure you can always get one from the nearest auto parts store.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 03:05 am | 8th Post |
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From what I understand, the fuel pump is not needed when the tank is more than about 1/3-1/2 full. And it doesn't need to pump very much pressure. I think the noisy ones are the kind that have a motor, rather than the pulse type that "thumps" as it pumps. John
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 12:26 am | 9th Post |
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When the pump went on my 85 Aspy it went without any warning at all.No lack of power and no noise.Just lost power and quit.The outboard end of the pump was very hot,so when I got home I pulled it apart just to see what was in there.There is a set of points in there and mine were very badly pitted and burnt.Tried to bypass the pump and filled the tank to try and gravity feed the carbs to get home.Didn't work for me.The Wing got a 2 hour ride home in a trailer and treated to a new fuel pump from Mother Honda.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 01:20 am | 10th Post |
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UBarW, I just put this one on my '84' GL1200I. Works great. Between 2 1/2 and 4 1/2 psi. Easy to install as I used the same setup as with stock. $56.28 at O'Reilly, Bestest Fuel Pump #BE8016S Attachment: Fuel Pump.JPG (Downloaded 989 times)
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 01:22 am | 11th Post |
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about randalls pump.. i believe it only works for 1100 bikes, this guy needs one for his 1200
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 01:53 am | 12th Post |
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I installed an electric pump Carter (Federal Mogul) P60504. First wide open, then I installed an adjustable Holley Low-Pressure Fuel Regulator part no. 12-500. The pump by itself had too much pressure. The GL1000's stock mechanical pump pressure varies from 2.0 - 2.4 psi, highest being at cranking (but lowest flow) lowest pressure at 5000 rpm but highest flow. I'd check your stock specs before you buy. The regulator is small and light and is adjustable from 1-4 psi. I've even adjusted it underway. Here's a pic, the dual fuel filters upstream of the pump are routed behind the clutch. I've since gone back to the stock pump to save amps for my spark plugs. Actually, you got anything to trade for all this stuff?  Last edited on Mon Jul 28th, 2008 01:55 am by nomados ____________________ 1975 GL1000 If Goldwings were whiskey they'd always be served neat. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 06:54 am | 13th Post |
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Be carefull re routing your fuel line, I had excessive length and it was laying on the engine block and started vapor locking at higher altitudes.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 7th, 2011 07:41 pm | 14th Post |
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would this work on 84 gl1200 carburated
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| Posted: Fri Jan 7th, 2011 07:54 pm | 15th Post |
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gl1200 wrote: would this work on 84 gl1200 carburated yes  Last edited on Fri Jan 7th, 2011 08:01 pm by RayandTracy ____________________ Working riding whenever we can. Wish I had more time to hang out with my goldwing family! |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 7th, 2011 07:55 pm | 16th Post |
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teacher wrote: UBarW, I just put this one on my '84' GL1200I. Works great. Between 2 1/2 and 4 1/2 psi. Easy to install as I used the same setup as with stock. $56.28 at O'Reilly, Bestest Fuel Pump #BE8016SClean looking installation Butch. Clean looking bike too. 
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| Posted: Sat Jan 8th, 2011 05:56 pm | 17th Post |
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I just finish installing the the aftermarket fuel pump on my 84 interstate it seems to be working fine, just wondering if anybody knows what PSI is the stock fuel pump.thanks for all the info. Last edited on Sat Jan 8th, 2011 05:59 pm by gl1200 |
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| Posted: Wed May 25th, 2011 02:37 am | 18th Post |
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I found out today the 1986 SEI needs a special fuel pump. the pressure needs to be between 34lbs and 38lbs to work with the CFI system. Bike is still running fine just want to get a spare. there is one Ebay for 200.00 guess i ha d better get it. Will this aftermarket fuel pump work on 1986 SEI Gl1200 Last edited on Sat May 28th, 2011 03:44 am by ki0dj ____________________ Ride safe my freinds... |
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| Posted: Wed May 25th, 2011 05:48 am | 19th Post |
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I'm not sure exactly what the EFI 1200s need for fuel pressure but typically fuel injection usually means a higher pressure fuel pump. Should be someone here who has the figures.
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| Posted: Wed May 25th, 2011 02:50 pm | 20th Post |
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Facet fuel pump P/N: #40171 is a popular pump that has proven over on the ADV site on many KTM's and other bikes as full-time load and transfer pumps. It is 2 - 3.5 psi and flows 15 GPH, which is more than enough flow for our GL's. It has both a check-valve to keep the fuel from flowing in either direction (back to the tank or forward to the carb rack) and a positve shut-off valve that stops fuel as well. Prices will vary on that pump from $30 on up, so be a smart shopper. It is a "cube" pump, and Facet is a Manufacturer supplier in aviation, boat, automobile, snowmobile, ATV, motorcycle, etc, Worlds... Facet, Bendix, Purolator, Fram, etc., ...all within the same Parent Corp of FACET at one time. I'm not certain of the parent Corp. right now though.. FACET = Filter, Automotive Compents and Enviromental Technologies The FACET Corp. was created per a FTC mandate back in the 70's to stop a monopoly of the filter market by Purolator after it aquired/merged with FRAM. Facet is a OEM supplier to many/most auto in-tank electric fuel pumps here in the States on domestic vehicles. The Facet #40104 fuel pump is a inexpensive alternative to the #40171. It does not have the valving that the 171 has, but neither does your factory mechanical pump have it either. Some have experienced flooding over night because their float needles do not seat properly using the 104/105. This would happen (if the case exists to begin with) with a factory pump as well. These type of pumps run continuously, but spring pressure 'regulates' the flow of fuel via over-pressure on the spring. When near-max pressure is reached, the spring simply limits fuel flow. I would run a regulator none-the-less. 4 psi is too much IMO. ... Last edited on Wed May 25th, 2011 02:52 pm by CaptainMidnight85 ____________________ "They're gonna make it look like suicide." Hunter S. Thompson, one day before his death. |
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