| Why will some dealers not work on Hondas over 10yrs old? |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 07:43 pm | 61st Post |
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I showed this thread to my local dealer and the miracle has now happened... He says he'll fix my bike if I let him... But I'm still not quite sure cos badwill attitude is hard to change...
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| Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 07:54 pm | 62nd Post |
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Money talks, bull**** walks: A dealer who needs business, and has a Wing owner willing to pay cash up front is very foolish to refuse such a customer!!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 08:24 pm | 63rd Post |
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The problem may be his technicians can't handle the age of the bike. I had a 1965 Olds 442 that alot of places wouldn't touch, even to do tires.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2009 06:50 pm | 64th Post |
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I for one try to purchase American or British made. . My 81 wing is a great bike, but when that goes...hello Victory , Harley, or Triumph. I always purchase Made in the USA first. I do not support putting my neighbor out of work just to save a few bucks on crap built by Countries that dump junk here just to increase market share made by low paid workers in sweatshops. You get what you pay for...and if you buy Chinese or Japanese you are not helping anyone in this country but a salesman.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17th, 2009 05:15 am | 65th Post |
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I know Harley dealers that will not work on bikes more than 10 years old nor take a 2 year old Harley on trade because it had 51,000 miles on the odometer!!!!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 04:01 am | 66th Post |
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I called the Honda dealer today to see about putting tires on my new (to me) Wing - a 92 1500A. They told me that they wouldn't change the tires, but if I pulled the wheels off the bike, they'd do it. Their tire prices were high compared to what's online so I asked if they minded if I bought the tires elsewhere and brought everything in, the service mgr. said they would do it for $35.00 - mount and balance. I guess I'll have to make some calls to some shops around here in case I run into something I can't/don't want to deal with - it would be nice to know someone out there would help.
____________________ My "other" ride is a Suzuki Burgman 400. It's a blast in "big city" traffic. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 16th, 2009 07:30 am | 67th Post |
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I farm out my work (for now) to American Biker in Ladson SC.Primarily a Harley/custom chopper shop etc.. but sells antique bikes as well.Interestingly enough, there is a sign posted in the shop quoting a different, higher labor rate for bikes more than 20 years old. I do not get charged this rate because my mechanic loves Goldwings. I wouldn't consider taking my bike to the local Honda dealer simply because of the age factor. Just my .02. Patrick
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| Posted: Wed Dec 16th, 2009 10:32 am | 68th Post |
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81 wing wrote: I for one try to purchase American or British made. . My 81 wing is a great bike, but when that goes...hello Victory , Harley, or Triumph. I always purchase Made in the USA first. I do not support putting my neighbor out of work just to save a few bucks on crap built by Countries that dump junk here just to increase market share made by low paid workers in sweatshops. You get what you pay for...and if you buy Chinese or Japanese you are not helping anyone in this country but a salesman. You sound like some Harley riders I know, and thats fine. Sounds like you really want a Harley now and I would say go for it. When you go to buy something for that harley or ESPECIALLY a Victory, do not look at the package for where the item was made. I have said it before on this forum, I think we are going to see a new era of Honda Motorcycle coming soon, something spectacular, something fantastic, and once again they will be way out in front. 
____________________ I never met a Goldwing I did not like. I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson Don't sweat the petty things.... Don't pet the sweaty things ----George Carlin-- AMA Charter Life Member. 486714 ABATE of N.Idaho member. C-1123 GWRRA Member 319406 Patriot Guard Rider Where I live: http://www.orofino.com/ Previous or Present thrills:196? Suzuki 350 1965 Honda CT200 (still have) 197? Kawasaki 250 1979 Yamaha XS750F 1981 Honda Goldwing 198? Kawasaki GPZ 550 1984 HondaAspencade 1984 Kawasaki Ninja 1986 Honda VF1000R 2000 Special Contruction Chopper (still have) 1976 Honda XL175 (current project) 2000 HD Sportster 883 (wifes) 2002 Yamaha YZ426f 2007 Yamaha TTR230 2008 Honda GL1800 (BLACK OF COURSE) |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20th, 2009 12:33 am | 69th Post |
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my local power house dosent have a problem working on older bikes if you want to pay their labor rates plus they only employ 2 experienced techs and 2 or 3 apprentices not bad but i wouldnt want a non experienced tech to work on my bike in experience isnt bad but you need trained techs now they dont train on 30 yr. old bikes at colleges and tech schools but other tan computer training its all just nuts and bolts 70% common sense 20% experience and 10% of luck lol but thats just my opinion
____________________ i am the current president of the non punctuators and bad spelling motorcycle group |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20th, 2009 07:36 pm | 70th Post |
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You know I really hate to admit this. But if I didn't do my own work on my wings I'd consider another machine and it wouldn't be a Honda. And if I should get lucky and can buy a new bike It SURE won't be a Honda. IT PROBABLY BE A HARLEY
____________________ 1984 Aspencade Premium Beige Metalic 90,825 1985 LTD Sunflash Gold 85,530 Grace Brown |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20th, 2009 09:35 pm | 71st Post |
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Right winger wrote:You know I really hate to admit this. But if I didn't do my own work on my wings I'd consider another machine and it wouldn't be a Honda. And if I should get lucky and can buy a new bike It SURE won't be a Honda. IT PROBABLY BE A HARLEY So if you have a Harley you wouldn't do your own work??, or that you wouldn't need to work on it?? Owning a Harley is a guarantee that work will be required.
____________________ "It's a friggen motorcycle, it's not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you shit your pants every now and then." |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21st, 2009 07:36 am | 72nd Post |
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Right winger wrote: You know I really hate to admit this. But if I didn't do my own work on my wings I'd consider another machine and it wouldn't be a Honda. And if I should get lucky and can buy a new bike It SURE won't be a Honda. IT PROBABLY BE A HARLEY I don't understand why you said this, but to each his own. If a Harley is over 10, they also do not work on them. If your HD is HIGHLY modified, you can forget them working on it if is over 5 years old.
____________________ I never met a Goldwing I did not like. I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson Don't sweat the petty things.... Don't pet the sweaty things ----George Carlin-- AMA Charter Life Member. 486714 ABATE of N.Idaho member. C-1123 GWRRA Member 319406 Patriot Guard Rider Where I live: http://www.orofino.com/ Previous or Present thrills:196? Suzuki 350 1965 Honda CT200 (still have) 197? Kawasaki 250 1979 Yamaha XS750F 1981 Honda Goldwing 198? Kawasaki GPZ 550 1984 HondaAspencade 1984 Kawasaki Ninja 1986 Honda VF1000R 2000 Special Contruction Chopper (still have) 1976 Honda XL175 (current project) 2000 HD Sportster 883 (wifes) 2002 Yamaha YZ426f 2007 Yamaha TTR230 2008 Honda GL1800 (BLACK OF COURSE) |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21st, 2009 10:58 am | 73rd Post |
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i agree the hd dealer in our area wont touch super custom bikes im sure you all are picky but omg ive never seen that type of overreaction from anyone but an hd owner it dosent matter if its an hd or a custom chopper with a hd motor and tranny in it the only thing diffrent from my 1980 to my dads brand new hd's is that i can find all my parts relatively easy and cheap but at the end of the day it dosent matter as long as your happy with your ride
____________________ i am the current president of the non punctuators and bad spelling motorcycle group |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 01:08 am | 74th Post |
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peterbilt wrote: it dosent matter as long as your happy with your ride
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| Posted: Wed Dec 23rd, 2009 01:35 am | 75th Post |
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 I'm told, since 1980, Goldwings are made in Ohio, the good old USA!
____________________ Ray - 1998 Aspencade The only time I open my mouth is to change feet. Previously owned: 1955 Harley KHK 1959 Harley 74 with suicide clutch, hand shift Honda 160 BMW 900 1977 Honda 750 1978 Yamaha XS11 1989 Goldwing Aspencade |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 23rd, 2009 08:52 am | 76th Post |
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Whether technically made in the USA or Japan, it will be my Motorcycle of choice.
____________________ I never met a Goldwing I did not like. I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson Don't sweat the petty things.... Don't pet the sweaty things ----George Carlin-- AMA Charter Life Member. 486714 ABATE of N.Idaho member. C-1123 GWRRA Member 319406 Patriot Guard Rider Where I live: http://www.orofino.com/ Previous or Present thrills:196? Suzuki 350 1965 Honda CT200 (still have) 197? Kawasaki 250 1979 Yamaha XS750F 1981 Honda Goldwing 198? Kawasaki GPZ 550 1984 HondaAspencade 1984 Kawasaki Ninja 1986 Honda VF1000R 2000 Special Contruction Chopper (still have) 1976 Honda XL175 (current project) 2000 HD Sportster 883 (wifes) 2002 Yamaha YZ426f 2007 Yamaha TTR230 2008 Honda GL1800 (BLACK OF COURSE) |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 25th, 2009 11:10 pm | 77th Post |
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The reason most Harley dealers will work on any year is because they ain't changed much at all in all those years. Rather old technology it seems. Plus they get alot of practice.hahaha
____________________ "Please Tell Your Boobs To Quit Staring At My Eyes" 1983 GL1100I |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 26th, 2009 04:00 pm | 78th Post |
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I, for one, am kind of glad that my local Stealer won't work on my '84 Aspy. When I first bought the bike and brought her back from N. Carolina, the first place I stopped was the local Honda Stealer. Just wanted him to check it out for me. He declined using the "more than 10 years old" excuse and quoting me $100/hour for labor. Thanks to that I: 1) came home, searched the internet and found this forum 2) learned to work on my bike myself Thanks! Honda Stealer!
____________________ Mark 1984 GL 1200 Aspencade "To live you must be willing to die" Amir Vahedi My father gets smarter everyday that he's gone. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 28th, 2009 08:17 am | 79th Post |
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oldtoys1961 wrote: The reason most Harley dealers will work on any year is because they ain't changed much at all in all those years. Rather old technology it seems. Plus they get alot of practice.hahaha Most Harley Dealers will NOT work on Harleys that are 10 years or older.
____________________ I never met a Goldwing I did not like. I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson Don't sweat the petty things.... Don't pet the sweaty things ----George Carlin-- AMA Charter Life Member. 486714 ABATE of N.Idaho member. C-1123 GWRRA Member 319406 Patriot Guard Rider Where I live: http://www.orofino.com/ Previous or Present thrills:196? Suzuki 350 1965 Honda CT200 (still have) 197? Kawasaki 250 1979 Yamaha XS750F 1981 Honda Goldwing 198? Kawasaki GPZ 550 1984 HondaAspencade 1984 Kawasaki Ninja 1986 Honda VF1000R 2000 Special Contruction Chopper (still have) 1976 Honda XL175 (current project) 2000 HD Sportster 883 (wifes) 2002 Yamaha YZ426f 2007 Yamaha TTR230 2008 Honda GL1800 (BLACK OF COURSE) |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29th, 2009 06:36 am | 80th Post |
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I have to throw in my dealer story. Last year I needed tires for my '86. My friend the Honda mechanic at the local dealership had just retired and I had no faith in the guy that replaced him. Another friend recommended a dealership (Just for Fun Honda in Middlefield, OH)that was 40 miles away. I called them and told them I needed tires ordered and installed for my '86 GL1200I. They said no problem....they let me order the tires I wanted over the phone - after I gave them my credit card to pay for the tires. A week goes by and a nice lady calls to say the tires are in. I ask when can they put them on. She asks what year, etc and I tell her. She says they don't work on bikes that old. Now they didn't have any trouble running my credit card for the tires, but now that I paid for them, they won't put them on. They offered to mount them if I removed the wheels and brought them in, but they flat refused to install the tires on the bike. So I drove 40 miles each way to get my new tires and I had a very loud talk with the Service Manager, who was the guy that I originally spoke to over the phone and who ordered the tires for me. I then went over and apologized to the nice lady that was working the parts counter who I am sure that I was not very nice to over the phone, took my tires and left. I called around and found the Service Manager at Sill's Honda in Cleveland, OH. He agreed to swap out the tires for me, and they did a very nice job. They even called me to tell me the rear pads needed replaced and there would be no labor charge because everything was already apart. I explained the issue with the other dealership and he said that sometimes when working on the older bikes things break and then the owner gets pissed and it's a huge issue. I get that - I don't like it, but I get it. I think it's just wrong to order parts for someone knowing full well that they want them installed, and then refuse to install them after they have paid for the parts. I truely couldn't care less if Just for Fun Honda was giving things away. I will never patronize that dealership again, ever. So Kudos to Sill's. I also agree with many of the posts above that the newer mechanics aren't the same as the old guys, the guys that work by the way it sounds, not what their computer says. That's what scared me away from the local dealership. The new guy had been a mechanic for about 10 minutes. Anyway, I wish that the dealerships could still service their products well. I ended up selling the 1200 partly because I didn't want to deal with where to get her fixed. I figured that eventually she would break, right? I have a few years before my 1800 gets to the magic "10". And I have a pretty good new Jap bike mechanic that does work on the side. Thanks to all the guys on here that have guided me through the repairs that I have tackled myself.
____________________ Joe Darksider #493 Former bikes: '80 CB750 Custom '86 GL1200 Interstate |
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