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steve604 09-15-2007 10:15 PM

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Alot of the discussion on here is about riding safely, and to be honest, living to ride another day.I thought we might share what we have learnedsosomeone elsemight notbecome a hood (bonnet) ornament for some cager.
Since I started this I guess I'll go first.

Whenpassing a stopped vehiclethat may pullinto my path Iwatch their front wheel.It's the first thing you can see move.

revgrizz 09-15-2007 10:19 PM

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I watch the wheels, as well. Also, living in the "corn belt", until harvest whenever I come to a blind corner I slow down and lay on the horn, so some idiot doesn't blow a stop sign and ruin my day.

Ruaidh 09-15-2007 10:25 PM

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As I look ahead the 10-15 seconds, while watching the car in front of me I try to look through this car to see the car in front of them. OK, I cheat, I use their windows, but quite often I see the second car in front hit their brakes or swerve to miss something and I can start to react instead of just focusing on the car directly in front of me.

Broke Winger 09-15-2007 11:17 PM

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I drove without a valid license for many years, over a decade in fact. So accidents were really a big danger.

I too watch through other vehicles and I watch the wheels. Another thing is my head almost never stops turning looking up driveways and cross streets. I miss a lot of scenery but al of this has become habit.

Another tip for when riding is do not sit in neutral at a light. It's a real good way to get rear ended. Keep yer bike in gear with the clutch just barely past the friction point and the tension out on the throttle. Keep yer right foot on the peg coverin ghte rear brake and squeaze and release the front brake lever so the brake light is flashing.

Something else I do. When passing an eighteen wheeler ont eh interstate I pull up fairly close behind it in the same lane, this lets me slip through the slistream of displaced air behind him, this make acceleration easier when I pop out from behind him in the other lane it takes a very little twist of the trottle to speed up by five or ten miles perhour just coming out of that slipstream. When I get past the traler wheel I hit the throttle hard and stay in it until I'm past the front of the truck by two car lengths. What for? By accelerating through the wall of air at the front of the truck it in minimizes the buffeting that usually accurs and is somethimes strong enough to push your bik eeither towards the ditch or towards the sid eof the truck.

Typicaly by the time I hit that two car lengths mark ahead of the truck I'm aproaching tripple digits. I drop the throttle and dip back into the trucks lane nice a smooth. At two car legnths ahead of him that wall f air that big honking monster is pushing is alsot a tail wind for the bike.

Yeah it's a bit of hot dogging and isn't somethign the novice shout try because your error margin is so slim. but when sone right it's a nice smooth pass that's not only effective ut a bit of fun to.

Ok so maybe that wasn't exactly a safety tip sure is fun.

Ok here is a bit of a safety tip. try to avoid decelerating along side a big rig. When at a constant speed the buffeting is bad enough. But I find that when decelerating it's even worse.

Tattoo Taffy 09-15-2007 11:38 PM

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get some life experience before buying a bike you know nothing about or cannot handle, and listen to those that have been around the block once or twice as they could make the difference between making it there or just arriving..

UbarW 09-16-2007 12:09 AM

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When I corner, I have learned to look farther down the road whilst turning, rather than just in front of the tire. It gives me time to plan and react...

And, ride like you are invisible. Dont assume anything, you are responsible for your OWN safety.

Best wishes.

AVA AUTO TECH 09-16-2007 03:18 AM

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Your name is out there on someones bumper. The name of the game is never be found. Look, Look,Look ahead beside you and your six. Never assume.

Silverfox 09-16-2007 05:09 AM

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Broke Winger wrote:

I too watch through other vehicles and I watch the wheels. Another thing is my head almost never stops turning looking up driveways and cross streets. I miss a lot of scenery but al of this has become habit.

I couldn't agree more with this one. I too am watching like a hawk as much as possible, in every direction, since you never know where the danger might come from. This has many times averted an incident, which if I hadn't had almost a 6th sense about might well have resulted in a prang. I possition myself carefully on the road, moving more to the centre if there are turnings to the side of the road and by the same token closer to the nearside if I am entering a blind corner to our off side, but only if the nearside is clear of driveways or road junctions. I never ride fast in built up areas, but usually stay wellbelow the posted speed limit. Only on open roads with good visibility will I open the throttle.

In England we have many roundabouts and whilst they do serve to keep traffic flowing well, they can be particularly hazardous, as folks may miss you in the flow of traffic, therfore I always assume that every driver has not seen me and is going to pull out on me.

Yes, I too miss much of the scenery on a ride, but I would rather arrive safely at the end of my ride than get carted off to a hospital and miss it all. My paramount concern is the life and well being of my passenger, who is more important than me and should have their trust respected.

DigbyODell 09-16-2007 05:38 AM

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Living in the "tall corn state" when we ride on the back roads, we all stay on the center line this time of year. Deer jumping from the corn fields in an instant. If you are riding on the center line, it gives you just that few extra feet that may save your life. I know some of you always ride stagered. I agree for the most part. However, on backroads with 7-8 foot tall corn not more than 5 feet from the side of the road, you need every second you can get to avoid those nasty forest rats.

Silverfox 09-16-2007 06:11 AM

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Staggered riding is great, especially where the roads are wide and good, but it is common practice to "break ranks and ride single file, even here in UK and in Europe, when the road narrows or doesn't lend itself to staggered formation. When doing this though, it is important to extend your distance from the rider in front to allow that extra safety zone for stopping in a hurry.

We are lucky not to have too many deer here, but we have more than our fair share of car drivers who are happy to act like them and surprise you when least expected. Actually you might wish to argue that last comment, since the deer are doing a fast brain job of working out fight or flight, the humans are mostly brain dead and just going about their business on autopilot, whilst concentrating on braking the law, by talking on the phone or thinking about something other than what they are doing with the dangerous weapon in their hands!!!!!:shock:

Lane changers are another one to watch out for, especially the many foreign lorry drivers that frequent our roads, with left hand drive vehicles, they often cannot see us as we are passing them and pull out suddenly. I have had this happen on more than one occasion and even when driving a big van. Twice that I can remember,I have smoked the tyres in an effort to avoid the inevitable.

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