Lowering the GL1000 - Page 6 - Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #51 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-07-2011, 03:13 PM
Senior Member
 
skip20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: West Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
Posts: 1,947
Post imported post

Guess that should be at 10:30,

USMC, Vietnam Combat Vet. 69-70,
GWRRA 78111
PGR 255645
1st Bike Honda Dream 150 Dream Bought in \'68
1st GoldWing GL1100 Interstate
1989 GL1500/6 (NEW)Still have runs GREAT
Now:1993 Gl1500SE Future Trike

To many projects to finish
skip20 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #52 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-07-2011, 09:53 PM
Senior Member
 
Kimswang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Apollo Beach, Florida, USA
Posts: 1,390
Post imported post

Instead of fixing the frame, why not widen the tank? those upper side frame rails should be covered and the engine is wide enough to handle it esthetically... Yes, it will involve some sheet metal work..

Winter is here, happy riding and stay safe !
Kimswang is offline  
post #53 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-10-2011, 11:57 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
zimco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Hilton, New York, USA
Posts: 156
Send a message via AIM to zimco
Post imported post

Saturday 12/10/2011



Not anything to put up as far as photos.

I have doing a lot of thinking about the way the frame and rear supports for the seat and fender will go, and how to make the tank and frame section look right.


The bike is big and boxy to begin with so I have decided to leave the top outer frame as it is, also there is a upper engine mount incorporated with a heat shield and the rear upper engine mounts come off of the the rear section of the same part of the frame.



I have started to add a couple of supports that will brace the frame connecting the back wheel. when the bike hits bumps there will be a lot of pressure on that section being a hard tail.


I am still working on the way to smooth out the rear of the tank area.


It is going to be a challenge to make a rear fender and seat mount that will support and still not add any more to the boxy frame than I have to.


This is the hardest build I have ever done, I can't believe how thin the frame is in spots.
I have had to fix spots where the welds have burned through the frame even on a lower setting on the welder.

1967-69 Vietnam Vet
Life Member DAV
Patriot Guard Rider

1996 GL1500 SE Trike
1980 GL1100 Naked and Low
(1) 1975 GL1000 (being lowered)
(5) 1975 - 79 GL1000 Parts bikes

"Never try to teach a pig to sing
It wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

"You can also follow me on my blog Zimco\'s Garage"


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
zimco is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #54 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-11-2011, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
zimco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Hilton, New York, USA
Posts: 156
Send a message via AIM to zimco
Post imported post


Just spent the day figuring out the seat and fender mounts.

I drilled a piece of round stock to fit inside the seat mounting bracket and tacked it to the up right.



I now have an idea of where the seat will mount.

I tacked a piece of tubing along the tire line to the frame this is going to be the support for the swing arm tube also.

The problem is this tube may be blocking the area where the battery goes so I may modify it later. Right now it serves as a straight line for mounting the fender, it also needs to be shortened later after I get the left side done.

This is going to be a tank by the time I am done, but at least I will be able to touch the ground.

1967-69 Vietnam Vet
Life Member DAV
Patriot Guard Rider

1996 GL1500 SE Trike
1980 GL1100 Naked and Low
(1) 1975 GL1000 (being lowered)
(5) 1975 - 79 GL1000 Parts bikes

"Never try to teach a pig to sing
It wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

"You can also follow me on my blog Zimco\'s Garage"


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
zimco is offline  
post #55 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-15-2011, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
zimco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Hilton, New York, USA
Posts: 156
Send a message via AIM to zimco
Post imported post

Wednesday 12/14/2011

Some explanation today, I have been working in the garage
but to this point I have not known what to report.

I first put a seat and rear fender brace tubing, from the plate above
the point where the rear swing arm mounts, going straight back next to the fender.

After tacking this in I realized that it would get in the way of the
battery mounting.

I had to cut and grind it out, and review again how this
mounting could be changed.



First I got the size of the Battery then I built a Battery Box.
Above picture is what I came up with.

I still have to make the brackets for it and also a hold down
system for the battery.

I decided to make an upright for the rear to serve as a fender mount
and also a brace for the swing arm.







I built the bottom from two pieces of 1 inch channel cut on an
angle to fit the mounting bracket at the rear wheel.



I put a piece of solid round stock in between the pieces of channel
and then added a piece of tubing over the round stock.

I ground all of the pieces so that they look like one piece of stock
that goes from square to round tube.



The tube is on an angle, but looks straight in the picture.

I then attached a short piece of 2 X 4 to the rear tire and
leaned the tubing against it.

This will give me the angle I need to get both sides to wind up the
same distance from the fender.

I set the tubing at a 90 degree angle to the ground, this way I will be
able to duplicate the angles on the other side even though they are
different lengths away from the rear wheel.

Remember that the two sides of the frame are at different distances and
angles all over the bike.

This is what makes this build so complicated.

I am sorry if I am confusing you, this is the best way
I know to explain what I have done.

When I do the other side you might be able to see it more clearly.

1967-69 Vietnam Vet
Life Member DAV
Patriot Guard Rider

1996 GL1500 SE Trike
1980 GL1100 Naked and Low
(1) 1975 GL1000 (being lowered)
(5) 1975 - 79 GL1000 Parts bikes

"Never try to teach a pig to sing
It wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

"You can also follow me on my blog Zimco\'s Garage"


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
zimco is offline  
post #56 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-18-2011, 09:19 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
zimco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Hilton, New York, USA
Posts: 156
Send a message via AIM to zimco
Post imported post

Saturday 12/17/2011

No post yesterday because my sister Pat and I took bags of presents (really necessities) out to the local Canandaigua NY VA Hospital.
If you want to do something good for the holidays or actually any time donate to the vets at your local VA hospital they need the help.

I started out today by finishing the right side base for the upright.




Getting the upright square with the frame and left side was quite a job. Betty came out to the garage and helped with the lining up of all the pieces.




Without a frame jig I have to really think out of the box. I first ground the base so that it basically fit the frame, then I took a tape measure from the neck to a cross piece of angle iron clamped to the left side which I mounted two days ago.

I put a magnetic level on the cross piece then clamped the right side to it. By having the right side upright at a 90 degree angle, the cross piece at a 90 degree also and measuring from the neck to the cross piece on both sides I figured that everything was square. After tacking I checked everything again and all was well in my world.






I then cut a piece of tube to go between the upright and the Cross plate located between where the swing arm mounts and I tacked that in. I still have to cut the uprights to length and make the rear fender mount. I bolted the fender to the temporary mount on the swing arm to get an idea for mounting the rear fender mount to the uprights.




I also got an old tail light out of stock and set it on the fender to see what that would look like. I am debating on welding the mount to the fender because the tail light can be removed from the mount and so can the license plate mount. If I weld it, I will also paint the mount along with the fender and leave the tail light chrome.



With the tail light set on the fender it makes it easier to figure out where to cut the fender.

1967-69 Vietnam Vet
Life Member DAV
Patriot Guard Rider

1996 GL1500 SE Trike
1980 GL1100 Naked and Low
(1) 1975 GL1000 (being lowered)
(5) 1975 - 79 GL1000 Parts bikes

"Never try to teach a pig to sing
It wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

"You can also follow me on my blog Zimco\'s Garage"


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
zimco is offline  
post #57 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-19-2011, 02:39 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
zimco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Hilton, New York, USA
Posts: 156
Send a message via AIM to zimco
Post imported post

Sunday 12/18/2011

Started today by making the support tube to go on the right side from the plate to the swing arm upright.



The process of making the sides to come out the same even though the original frame tubes are
different make this the hardest frame rebuild I have ever tackled. Every tube is different so I can't make one tube then make another one to match it.

I cut down the uprights by installing the fender where it is to go, then put a level across the fender and making a mark on the tubes.
I then took hose clamps and installed them at the marks. when the clamps are tightened down they give me a line all the way around the tubes so I can cut them squarely across the tube.

This is a good way to cut a pipe at a 90 degree angle with a small grinder, just make a mark then put a hose clamp at the mark it gives you a perfect line to cut on.



I next made a couple of plugs to fit into the tops of the uprights, drilled and tapped to fit a 8mm X 125 bolt thread.

I welded them inside the uprights. I may make some kind of fancy top to go on them later.



The fender was installed on the temporary bracket on the swing arm and I blocked it up on the tire. The job now is to get the fender straight and centered just where I want it to be.

I cut a piece of flat stock and drilled holes for the uprights
Then bolted them down to the uprights.



I just noticed how this picture makes the rear tire look off center, it's not, but I will
double check everything when I get back to the garage in a couple of days.

I now need to get a center line to the fender brace I made.
I will use this to make the actual brace I want to use.
I am still thinking about the mounting of the fender and seat.
I an also debating if some small saddle bags might be good on this tank of mine.

1967-69 Vietnam Vet
Life Member DAV
Patriot Guard Rider

1996 GL1500 SE Trike
1980 GL1100 Naked and Low
(1) 1975 GL1000 (being lowered)
(5) 1975 - 79 GL1000 Parts bikes

"Never try to teach a pig to sing
It wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

"You can also follow me on my blog Zimco\'s Garage"


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
zimco is offline  
post #58 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-22-2011, 04:18 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
zimco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Hilton, New York, USA
Posts: 156
Send a message via AIM to zimco
Post imported post

12/21/2011

With the holidays drawing near I find myself having less time to
work on the bike, this will change the day after Christmas because
Betty is going to Virginia to visit her daughters.

I am staying home this time and being by myself there should be a
lot of time to work in the garage.

I double checked, and everything so far is square, it was the picture
that made the rear look off set.



I decided to build a better fender brace and I remembered that I had
a Honda topper from one of the sissy bars I have. I welded up a 1/2 inch
square bar so that I could mount the topper on it. It is also much better
for support for the rear fender.





I also dug out a set of old saddle bags that I am thinking about
mounting on the rear of the bike. I am still working that out in my mind.

Everyone is busy near Christmas so I am having a bunch of family over
tomorrow (Friday 12/23/2011) so no garage tomorrow or until the day after
Christmas.

Everyone have a great Holiday, and I will continue on Monday, the day after
Christmas.

1967-69 Vietnam Vet
Life Member DAV
Patriot Guard Rider

1996 GL1500 SE Trike
1980 GL1100 Naked and Low
(1) 1975 GL1000 (being lowered)
(5) 1975 - 79 GL1000 Parts bikes

"Never try to teach a pig to sing
It wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

"You can also follow me on my blog Zimco\'s Garage"


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
zimco is offline  
post #59 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-26-2011, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
zimco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Hilton, New York, USA
Posts: 156
Send a message via AIM to zimco
Post imported post

Monday 12/26/2011

I am back to the garage after the holidays, it feels good to get back to work.
I had a great day today, starting a couple of hours early and putting in about 10 hours today.

I started by cleaning the front fork lowers with a wire brush, you may
remember that this was the bike that got too near a fire before I got it.



The ugly color won't come off the forks, but the lowers will be able to be painted after I rebuild them.

I purchased 2 Shock-mate # SA1997 boots that are meant to go over steering
assemblies for some kind of car.
They look like they will cover the front forks where they are discolored.
I am saving them until the final assembly of the bike.

I put the front end back on to get an idea of how the bike is going to sit.



Next I tacked a flat piece of plate onto the fender mount and mounted the
tail light frame to the fender.

The tape is about the line I will use when I cut the rear fender off.

I still have to cut the plate down to the out line of the tail light front bolt mount.



Next was the battery box it is very close to the master cylinder so I remounted
the cylinder to make sure the two pieces won't hit each other.
Also I need enough room to get at the brake line going into the cylinder.

I put a couple of pieces of board under it resting on the swing arm and the height
comes out pretty good.
Now I have to make the mount for it, I would like to have it bolted in.



In order to get the seat right I built a dummy battery out of some pieces of 2X4
wood I had around. I cut them to the size of a battery so I know how much room
I have to work with.

Would you believe I bought 7 Goldwings and not one of them had a battery in it,
even a bad one would have worked to check the clearance.





The next project was to mount up the seat to see how that fit with the
battery box under it.
I decided to go with the hair pin springs for the seat.



I just laid a piece of flat stock across the back frame to get an idea of how
high the seat would be.



OH BOY - - - I can touch flat footed even without lowering the front end.





1967-69 Vietnam Vet
Life Member DAV
Patriot Guard Rider

1996 GL1500 SE Trike
1980 GL1100 Naked and Low
(1) 1975 GL1000 (being lowered)
(5) 1975 - 79 GL1000 Parts bikes

"Never try to teach a pig to sing
It wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

"You can also follow me on my blog Zimco\'s Garage"


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
zimco is offline  
post #60 of 187 (permalink) Old 12-26-2011, 10:03 PM
Senior Member
 
Kimswang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Apollo Beach, Florida, USA
Posts: 1,390
Post imported post

Good work. What kind of bags are putting on?

Winter is here, happy riding and stay safe !
Kimswang is offline  
Reply

  Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums > Forums > Reference and FAQ Forum

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
lowering Flybynight Goldwing Technical Forum 20 02-08-2012 09:52 PM
Lowering GL1100? ozzie65 General Motorcycle Discussion Forum 11 06-12-2010 03:31 PM
lowering Dusty Goldwing Technical Forum 4 07-20-2009 08:48 PM
lowering the goldwing Marky Mark Goldwing Technical Forum 27 03-14-2008 01:45 PM
lowering gl 1200 luckey9 Goldwing Technical Forum 8 02-26-2008 09:46 AM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome